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Replying To superbluedub:  "Kerry dominance fizzle out ?
37 All Irelands " should be 38 "
81 Munster titles
Jesus wept"
Myself and skillet were talking about dominance in a specific era like Kilkenny 00s to mid teens and Kerry late 70s to mid 80s and kerry late 90s to late 00s not dominance over all, although its nice to see our over all numbers in print.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/10/2020 13:16:45    2296237

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I totally agree, Brian; the most peevish poster I've ever ever seen on any forum!"
Now now there is no need for mud slinging, by the way you're obviously a new multi, and you're not fooling anyone.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/10/2020 13:19:58    2296238

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Kerrygold is indeed a beautiful butter

Just a brand name picked from many options

A brand created by Tony O'Reilly

A Northside Dublin man from Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, my neck of the woods.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/kerrygold-becomes-ireland-s-first-billion-euro-food-brand-1.3876158%3fmode=amp

The brand was originally created by Sir Anthony O'Reilly in 1962, when he was chief executive of, what was then called An Bord Bainne, later the Irish Dairy Board, and more recently Ornua, as a means to market Irish dairy produce globally.

The Kerrygold brand name was chosen from a list of 60 suggestions, which included Buttercup, Tub-o-Gold and Leprechaun, and first launched in the UK. Its global success has had a lot to do with slick marketing and advertising campaigns over the years.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 07/10/2020 17:05:52    2296281

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I totally agree, Brian; the most peevish poster I've ever ever seen on any forum!"
I totally agree, foreveryoung; and that's being kind

;)

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 07/10/2020 17:57:46    2296290

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Replying To brian:  "Very well said there Skillet. My own beloved Waterford hurlers could've had multiple all irelands in that period too but you don't hear them complain either. Cork the same even though they won a couple of Irelands too"
I was too young to go when we lost in '63 and suffered a few times since. Had great players and teams but the gods never smiled on us but we will admit that we were not just good enough to get over the line. Even though not experienced the joy of winning an All-Ireland I got a great appreciate for the hurlers of Mayo, Meath, Down, Kildare, Kerry, Carlow, Laois,Westmeath, and the rest of the lesser lights. Players from these counties show commitment, skill and work rate equal to the elites and to this day follow their progress. When we dropped to the lower league divisions travelled all over the country to see these teams play and supported my team the same as when in top flight.
In these latter years I find it hard to stomach the arrogance, gloating, rudeness and insults of a lot of the supporters of the elites. Not all thankfully.
I believe we have a good man in y'ere Jack Fagan and I am sure he is a loss to Meath.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2671 - 07/10/2020 18:37:42    2296299

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Question to posters.
Do you agree in the modern game, with all the emphasis on systems/ packed defensesis it harder for top players to standout/ express themselves in the modern game than it was in the past?.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1361 - 07/10/2020 23:34:37    2296339

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Question to posters.
Do you agree in the modern game, with all the emphasis on systems/ packed defensesis it harder for top players to standout/ express themselves in the modern game than it was in the past?."
Absolutely it has a big impact bdbudah, that extra bit of space makes a huge difference Although a lot will say great players will find the space anyway and they will but just not as often as in the past.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/10/2020 11:17:01    2296380

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Question to posters.
Do you agree in the modern game, with all the emphasis on systems/ packed defensesis it harder for top players to standout/ express themselves in the modern game than it was in the past?."
Yes and no.

I don't think that advances in defensive set ups have made it harder for top forwards to stand out. The very best will still be identifiable like McManus, Connolly, and Murphy. There are maybe fewer top level forwards, but they are as good and better as the previous generations.

What I do think is that at an individual level it is harder for a defender to stand out. I was tempted earlier to include a comment on the best full backs of the generation as I haven't seen a number 3 being mentioned seriously in this thread at all. In another generation Neil McGee could have been seen as an all-time great, but has a good defensive structure hidden his weaknesses? Has a similar adoption of the same defensive structures meant that the perceived difference in quality between McGee and other top full backs of the day has been narrowed?

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 385 - 08/10/2020 11:42:26    2296387

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Question to posters.
Do you agree in the modern game, with all the emphasis on systems/ packed defensesis it harder for top players to standout/ express themselves in the modern game than it was in the past?."
Yep. .and it's another reason why I'd give far more weight to the exploits of Michael Murphy, Dermot Connolly, David Clifford, etc. who display such talent in spite of this. . .to those of a keeper who the modern game plays into the hands of in the absence of man-to-man marking on kickouts, more protection from backs and next-to-zero high balls into the square etc.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5020 - 08/10/2020 11:44:51    2296388

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Kerrygold is indeed a beautiful butter

Just a brand name picked from many options

A brand created by Tony O'Reilly

A Northside Dublin man from Griffith Avenue, Drumcondra, my neck of the woods.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/kerrygold-becomes-ireland-s-first-billion-euro-food-brand-1.3876158%3fmode=amp

The brand was originally created by Sir Anthony O'Reilly in 1962, when he was chief executive of, what was then called An Bord Bainne, later the Irish Dairy Board, and more recently Ornua, as a means to market Irish dairy produce globally.

The Kerrygold brand name was chosen from a list of 60 suggestions, which included Buttercup, Tub-o-Gold and Leprechaun, and first launched in the UK. Its global success has had a lot to do with slick marketing and advertising campaigns over the years."
ah jaysus them poor kerry lads cant catch a break.

First we took their record away of 4 Sams in a row by winning 5 in a row.... And now your telling me the Famous Kerrygold actually belongs to us!!!!!

Come on Jimbo less of that. Let them have the butter they've had a tough couple of years

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 08/10/2020 11:46:36    2296389

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Question to posters.
Do you agree in the modern game, with all the emphasis on systems/ packed defensesis it harder for top players to standout/ express themselves in the modern game than it was in the past?."
I think they are different types of players standing out now than in the past.

The position of the centre half forward, neat play maker who picked out passes for the forwards has been made way harder.

I still think there's room for excellence though.

You look at the performances from McCaffrey and Sean O'Shea in last year's final and those are performances that any greats would be happy of.

Lee Keegan, James McCarthy, Fenton have all produced wonderful complete performances in All Ireland finals in recent years.

If anything they are more impressive given the quality of the defensive set ups that they are having to pick apart.

They are very different to the great performances of the past. The difference is made from deeper positions nearly.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 08/10/2020 11:51:29    2296390

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Does anyone know where the adult forum is?
I seem to have stumbled into under 14 forum

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 285 - 08/10/2020 13:06:13    2296400

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Replying To ConnollyDub:  "ah jaysus them poor kerry lads cant catch a break.

First we took their record away of 4 Sams in a row by winning 5 in a row.... And now your telling me the Famous Kerrygold actually belongs to us!!!!!

Come on Jimbo less of that. Let them have the butter they've had a tough couple of years"
dublins 5 in a row :-) and it only cost the government and the gaa 30 odd million :-) at least ourselves and Kilkenny and wexford did our 4s without any help from the gaa or government..

We did 2 5s in minor and junior the right way, the fair way.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/10/2020 13:24:21    2296405

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "dublins 5 in a row :-) and it only cost the government and the gaa 30 odd million :-) at least ourselves and Kilkenny and wexford did our 4s without any help from the gaa or government..

We did 2 5s in minor and junior the right way, the fair way."
yeah... the right way. like winning an all ireland playing 3 games ;)

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 08/10/2020 13:34:11    2296407

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Replying To ConnollyDub:  "yeah... the right way. like winning an all ireland playing 3 games ;)"
3 games but it was still the fair way and uncorrupted by money and played mostly away from home as well.

If the kerry senior footballers or any other counties senior footballers ever manage to win the 5 then that will eclipses dublins 5 no doubt.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/10/2020 14:12:53    2296418

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Replying To ConnollyDub:  "yeah... the right way. like winning an all ireland playing 3 games ;)"
Dont engage, only a WUM - and take no heed of his false ;o)

HS got rid of the red thumbs - they missed a huge one....!

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 08/10/2020 14:20:03    2296421

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Replying To Fionn:  "Dont engage, only a WUM - and take no heed of his false ;o)

HS got rid of the red thumbs - they missed a huge one....!"
Does people telling the thruth wind you up fionn?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/10/2020 14:50:49    2296424

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "dublins 5 in a row :-) and it only cost the government and the gaa 30 odd million :-) at least ourselves and Kilkenny and wexford did our 4s without any help from the gaa or government..

We did 2 5s in minor and junior the right way, the fair way."
Stop talking nonsense

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 08/10/2020 15:57:50    2296431

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "dublins 5 in a row :-) and it only cost the government and the gaa 30 odd million :-) at least ourselves and Kilkenny and wexford did our 4s without any help from the gaa or government..

We did 2 5s in minor and junior the right way, the fair way."
But no 5 in a row @ senior level , the right way , the fair way or any way -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 08/10/2020 16:05:17    2296432

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Does people telling the thruth wind you up fionn?"
Does the Dublin "Senior 5 in a row wind you up kingdomboy?" -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 08/10/2020 16:09:15    2296433

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