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There's probably a good chance this has been discussed before but when are the GAA going to do something to sort out colour clashes? I saw photos from a match up in antrim between St John's (blue Jersey with a white hoop and white shorts) against Rossa (blue Jersey with a gold hoop and white shorts) and both teams wearing their home strip.

Soccer clubs playing on local leagues manage to avoid colour clashes so why can't GAA clubs carry two sets of kits? It's up to GAA/county boards to take a strong line on it so that clubs know that they must be prepared for colour clashes. It's even seen from time to time in inter-County matches, even, to an extent in the 2014 all ireland final.

DL_Man (Donegal) - Posts: 68 - 10/09/2020 23:24:10    2291494

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Well all I can say is that in Kerry the clubs have a second kit. Dr Crokers for example have a white strip as a second jersey.
Their neighbours Legion likewise swap their traditional green for white when they need to.
Austin Stacks have the black and amber and then switch it to amber with a black hoo.p across the chest.
My own club have the Mayo colours but switch then to a predominantly red jersey with a little green when demanded, although there's usually no colour clash in the hurling championship down here.

As for the 2014 final, I didn't think there was any problem. The Kerry and Donegal strips were pretty distinctive, given Donegal was mostly a yellow kit. Now if it clashed with Kerry's 07 jersey onlookers would have been fair confused!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5721 - 11/09/2020 09:58:33    2291512

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Replying To DL_Man:  "There's probably a good chance this has been discussed before but when are the GAA going to do something to sort out colour clashes? I saw photos from a match up in antrim between St John's (blue Jersey with a white hoop and white shorts) against Rossa (blue Jersey with a gold hoop and white shorts) and both teams wearing their home strip.

Soccer clubs playing on local leagues manage to avoid colour clashes so why can't GAA clubs carry two sets of kits? It's up to GAA/county boards to take a strong line on it so that clubs know that they must be prepared for colour clashes. It's even seen from time to time in inter-County matches, even, to an extent in the 2014 all ireland final."
St.Johns have a white/blue/white away kit and Rossa's is similar to the Clare home Jersey so there should be no reason for them lining out in both home jersey's especially since it wasn't a neutral venue match. The county board were dishing out fines in previous years for this type of thing so the clubs should know better. It was a horrible dull evening too for dark shirts. I agree this type of thing should be straightforward, especially for a senior championship match.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1966 - 11/09/2020 10:23:05    2291514

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Here is a question for you? How many All Ireland finals were there when both finalists changed their strips? Answers on a postcard to Ollie Hoganstand, The Bull, Dublin Road, Drogheda, Co. Louth.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 165 - 11/09/2020 10:28:31    2291516

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I've seen Meath playing Donegal and hard enough to make out the teams. In think Donegal second Jersey is white so, it should be agreed before they play not to have clashing jerseys.
A few clubs in Cavan have second jerseys, but Ramor played Crosserlough recently and hard in the eyes. Black and gold v Black and Amber stripes

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2100 - 11/09/2020 10:44:41    2291521

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well all I can say is that in Kerry the clubs have a second kit. Dr Crokers for example have a white strip as a second jersey.
Their neighbours Legion likewise swap their traditional green for white when they need to.
Austin Stacks have the black and amber and then switch it to amber with a black hoo.p across the chest.
My own club have the Mayo colours but switch then to a predominantly red jersey with a little green when demanded, although there's usually no colour clash in the hurling championship down here.

As for the 2014 final, I didn't think there was any problem. The Kerry and Donegal strips were pretty distinctive, given Donegal was mostly a yellow kit. Now if it clashed with Kerry's 07 jersey onlookers would have been fair confused!"
Ya I saw St Brendans were wearing the IT Tralee kit when they played the legion a few weeks ago.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11452 - 11/09/2020 11:03:35    2291524

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Here is a question for you? How many All Ireland finals were there when both finalists changed their strips? Answers on a postcard to Ollie Hoganstand, The Bull, Dublin Road, Drogheda, Co. Louth."
2010 - Cork in all white and Down in the Ulster colours.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13086 - 11/09/2020 11:30:38    2291528

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Here is a question for you? How many All Ireland finals were there when both finalists changed their strips? Answers on a postcard to Ollie Hoganstand, The Bull, Dublin Road, Drogheda, Co. Louth."
1981 & 82. Offaly and Kerry wore change jerseys

tonorio (Offaly) - Posts: 584 - 11/09/2020 11:49:29    2291532

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Replying To DL_Man:  "There's probably a good chance this has been discussed before but when are the GAA going to do something to sort out colour clashes? I saw photos from a match up in antrim between St John's (blue Jersey with a white hoop and white shorts) against Rossa (blue Jersey with a gold hoop and white shorts) and both teams wearing their home strip.

Soccer clubs playing on local leagues manage to avoid colour clashes so why can't GAA clubs carry two sets of kits? It's up to GAA/county boards to take a strong line on it so that clubs know that they must be prepared for colour clashes. It's even seen from time to time in inter-County matches, even, to an extent in the 2014 all ireland final."
They do. Any club team has a change kit. Those guys decided not to use it.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 760 - 11/09/2020 13:28:41    2291544

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Always wondered myself why do both teams need to change when it's agreed there's a colour clash in GAA?

What would be wrong with tossing a coin to decide who changes, and who gets to wear their usual gear?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 405 - 11/09/2020 13:57:05    2291551

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Replying To essmac:  "They do. Any club team has a change kit. Those guys decided not to use it."
I think you're probably correct. Teams have an alternative strip but don't bother using it because they know they'll get away with wearing whatever they want. I know my club has a different colour of jerseys for senior and reserve teams but only wear the change strip of absolutely unavoidable. I remember once watching an intermediate first round game where the home team wore their change kit so the visiting team woudl have to turn jerseys inside out. Farcical stuff.

DL_Man (Donegal) - Posts: 68 - 11/09/2020 14:00:49    2291552

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Not necessarily true. Plenty of Clubs team's don't have an alternative kit,. Clubs wouldn't have the expense a County team would have to spend, and might not bother purchasing a second kit if rarely used. Nonetheless it is would be useful if all club team did have alternative Jersey.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2100 - 11/09/2020 14:43:16    2291559

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya I saw St Brendans were wearing the IT Tralee kit when they played the legion a few weeks ago."
The rule of thumb in Kerry is the home team change colours and this rule applies to all grades from U12's up.

I see where one NK Game last week where the home team wore a neighboring club jersey as their was a clash.

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 4806 - 11/09/2020 15:16:39    2291564

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "The rule of thumb in Kerry is the home team change colours and this rule applies to all grades from U12's up.

I see where one NK Game last week where the home team wore a neighboring club jersey as their was a clash."
Good idea horse, although nobody would want to borrow our Jerseys coz like the hermit says sure there only old Cork jerseys :-0

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11452 - 11/09/2020 16:28:28    2291574

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well all I can say is that in Kerry the clubs have a second kit. Dr Crokers for example have a white strip as a second jersey.
Their neighbours Legion likewise swap their traditional green for white when they need to.
Austin Stacks have the black and amber and then switch it to amber with a black hoo.p across the chest.
My own club have the Mayo colours but switch then to a predominantly red jersey with a little green when demanded, although there's usually no colour clash in the hurling championship down here.

As for the 2014 final, I didn't think there was any problem. The Kerry and Donegal strips were pretty distinctive, given Donegal was mostly a yellow kit. Now if it clashed with Kerry's 07 jersey onlookers would have been fair confused!"
I think I'm right in saying traditionally Donegal wore a jersey the same as Kerry (Green with a Gold band). They changed for the '92 semi final against Mayo to a predominantly Gold jersey with some Green, continued to use the same jersey for some reason in that year's final and there after never changed.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 731 - 11/09/2020 16:55:21    2291580

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Here is a question for you? How many All Ireland finals were there when both finalists changed their strips? Answers on a postcard to Ollie Hoganstand, The Bull, Dublin Road, Drogheda, Co. Louth."
I'm not sure why Mayo did not change at all in either in 1996 AIF (Meath wore Green shorts in drawn match and changed to a Gold jersey for the replay) or 1997 AIF (Kerry changed to a jersey where the Gold 'band' took up most of the jersey).

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 731 - 11/09/2020 17:10:48    2291583

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "I'm not sure why Mayo did not change at all in either in 1996 AIF (Meath wore Green shorts in drawn match and changed to a Gold jersey for the replay) or 1997 AIF (Kerry changed to a jersey where the Gold 'band' took up most of the jersey)."
Was it not a toss of a coin to see who would change in those days?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10240 - 11/09/2020 17:31:24    2291587

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "I'm not sure why Mayo did not change at all in either in 1996 AIF (Meath wore Green shorts in drawn match and changed to a Gold jersey for the replay) or 1997 AIF (Kerry changed to a jersey where the Gold 'band' took up most of the jersey)."
I'm pretty sure Kerry played with their usual jersey in the 97 final.
These days Kerry and Mayo both usually change their strip if they meet but in 04 and 06 they both wore their usual colours and I don't recall any huge problem with it. I certainly didn't have any trouble picking out whose who in the terrace that day.
Interestingly when Kerry won their first football All Ireland for the 1903 championship, they were reported as wearing green and red but once they won they officially lodged their colours with the GAA as green and gold, the gold hoop being added in recognition of their first title.

Kildare meanwhile took on their nickname to such an extent their players whitewashed their boots in those finals against Kerry!

Cork of course famously changed from blue to red and white in 1920.
Dublin switched to navy in the early 60s so it would come up better on the black and white television.
Down likewise made the controversial decision at the time to wear black shorts instead of the traditional red to have a distinctive appearance.

I seem to recall hearing that Sligo were always white a little black trim but then at some stage in the 90s decided to reverse it and make it a mostly black strip.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5721 - 11/09/2020 17:33:09    2291588

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "I think I'm right in saying traditionally Donegal wore a jersey the same as Kerry (Green with a Gold band). They changed for the '92 semi final against Mayo to a predominantly Gold jersey with some Green, continued to use the same jersey for some reason in that year's final and there after never changed."
Same with Sligo for the black kit

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1024 - 11/09/2020 17:42:18    2291590

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Replying To Breezy:  "Same with Sligo for the black kit"
Donegal adopted the current "yellow jerseys green togs" in the 1960's.They went back to the Kerry style for a few years when Tom Conaghan took over in the late 1980's.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 661 - 11/09/2020 19:14:54    2291598

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