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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To arock:  "Whatever about my personal views on Covid 19. I dont think the statement from the GAA asking for "empirical evidence" will go down well with the public and GAA membership. Here comes another climb down and apology."
Of course the GAA(and all sporting organisations)are entitled to ask for the evidence to back up this decision because they and a lot of the public think it's unfair and unjustified. If multiple cases were transmitted at GAA events then show the evidence and we'll all shut up.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 387 - 19/08/2020 08:33:10    2288187

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Embarrassing seeing the statement from the GAA looking for a meeting with Ronan Glynn, meanwhile the FAI release a statement with the following **The Football Association of Ireland notes the Government announcement today of new restrictions on indoor and outdoor events as the country continues the fight against COVID-19 and we acknowledge the part that our sport can play in this ongoing battle.** so they are playing their part in the ongoing battle against covid by instructing all their teams/clubs to abide by the new regulations relating to crowds at matches, they are not demanding a showdown with the cmo in the middle of an emergency, fair play to them, no surprise to see the GAA stance it has what the association has become..

Tod (Kerry) - Posts: 31 - 19/08/2020 09:36:07    2288193

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Nonsense. If they claim they are doing it to stop the spread then you can't cherry pick. Is Mass a business as well? Or can you explain that ? Amongst other things."
Shure God will protect them

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 974 - 19/08/2020 09:38:17    2288194

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Replying To Tod:  "Embarrassing seeing the statement from the GAA looking for a meeting with Ronan Glynn, meanwhile the FAI release a statement with the following **The Football Association of Ireland notes the Government announcement today of new restrictions on indoor and outdoor events as the country continues the fight against COVID-19 and we acknowledge the part that our sport can play in this ongoing battle.** so they are playing their part in the ongoing battle against covid by instructing all their teams/clubs to abide by the new regulations relating to crowds at matches, they are not demanding a showdown with the cmo in the middle of an emergency, fair play to them, no surprise to see the GAA stance it has what the association has become.."
Ah Toddy when you're using the FAI to support your argument your losing.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 387 - 19/08/2020 10:01:32    2288198

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While NEPHET and Ronan Glynn are getting a lot of criticism today, remember that ultimately the new restriction on training and spectating is a GOVERNMENT decision. So now I can't go to watch my daughter playing an U12 game, but I can go to the local pub until 11.30pm! Perhaps highlighting these inconsistencies with my local government TDs might be the way to go!!

football first (None) - Posts: 1157 - 19/08/2020 10:02:24    2288199

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Replying To Tod:  "Embarrassing seeing the statement from the GAA looking for a meeting with Ronan Glynn, meanwhile the FAI release a statement with the following **The Football Association of Ireland notes the Government announcement today of new restrictions on indoor and outdoor events as the country continues the fight against COVID-19 and we acknowledge the part that our sport can play in this ongoing battle.** so they are playing their part in the ongoing battle against covid by instructing all their teams/clubs to abide by the new regulations relating to crowds at matches, they are not demanding a showdown with the cmo in the middle of an emergency, fair play to them, no surprise to see the GAA stance it has what the association has become.."
Great point, i know the FAI are not a great example but it is a class statement compared to the GAA statement, fair play to them for doing their bit, meanwhile the GAA are letting themselves down again

dec (None) - Posts: 239 - 19/08/2020 10:19:12    2288205

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Very disappointing to be returning to more restrictions. The writing has been on the wall when you look at the rising number of cases these past few weeks. If we take a step back and look at the big picture, something had to be done. We just couldn't keep going like this with cases rising exponentially.

Unfortunately the measures announced yesterday are going to have little effect I feel. The restrictions in sport feel like they are picking some low hanging fruit. In saying that, anybody who has attended club matches will know that social distancing is not being adhered to. The people I feel most sorry are the over 70s who are being asked to limit their movements despite very few cases in their age category. I love going to watch my football but it's not as important as our elderly not being able to leave the house.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1674 - 19/08/2020 10:35:30    2288209

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Meat factories and other slave like operations are the biggest problem but the Dublin government hits the GAA instead.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 274 - 19/08/2020 10:41:10    2288210

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Replying To football first:  "While NEPHET and Ronan Glynn are getting a lot of criticism today, remember that ultimately the new restriction on training and spectating is a GOVERNMENT decision. So now I can't go to watch my daughter playing an U12 game, but I can go to the local pub until 11.30pm! Perhaps highlighting these inconsistencies with my local government TDs might be the way to go!!"
This point exactly! The government communication has been totally confusing and contradictory. And people are understandably angry. However, the GAA statement last night was needlessly aggressive towards Ronan Glynn. It's the government that implement those rules and they should be the ones answerable to the public!

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 123 - 19/08/2020 10:45:42    2288212

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Replying To dec:  "Great point, i know the FAI are not a great example but it is a class statement compared to the GAA statement, fair play to them for doing their bit, meanwhile the GAA are letting themselves down again"
Yes, but we cannot be just bleating sheep. We need to call out the inconsistencies and illogic at play too. As it stands a GAA team cannot train as a complete unit but they can play as one. Public transport in Dublin allows only 8 people on a 65+ seater bus, yet kids are going back to school and colleges, while bus lanes have been modified for sociakly distancingbon footpaths, there will be traffic apocalypse. Everything has a cause and effect. I understand totally the GAA questioning these measures but maybe doing off line is a far better way.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4367 - 19/08/2020 10:54:04    2288215

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Very disappointing to be returning to more restrictions. The writing has been on the wall when you look at the rising number of cases these past few weeks. If we take a step back and look at the big picture, something had to be done. We just couldn't keep going like this with cases rising exponentially.

Unfortunately the measures announced yesterday are going to have little effect I feel. The restrictions in sport feel like they are picking some low hanging fruit. In saying that, anybody who has attended club matches will know that social distancing is not being adhered to. The people I feel most sorry are the over 70s who are being asked to limit their movements despite very few cases in their age category. I love going to watch my football but it's not as important as our elderly not being able to leave the house."
Good post, well said...

Tod (Kerry) - Posts: 31 - 19/08/2020 10:55:01    2288216

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I can't understand how anyone would criticise the GAA for questioning yesterday's announcement. As they are directly affected, it stands to reason they should be able to ask for any evidence that proves fans at games are a risk, and if evidence can't be provided then it would appear the government is just cherry picking as to what is a risk and what isn't. This weekend, you can go to a restaurant, go into different shops, even travel all over the country, and yet standing outside in a field is not allowed. This is without getting into the conditions in which school kids will be sent into next week. This decision is selective at best and will do nothing to halt the spread of the virus.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1565 - 19/08/2020 11:17:21    2288222

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Replying To Tod:  "Embarrassing seeing the statement from the GAA looking for a meeting with Ronan Glynn, meanwhile the FAI release a statement with the following **The Football Association of Ireland notes the Government announcement today of new restrictions on indoor and outdoor events as the country continues the fight against COVID-19 and we acknowledge the part that our sport can play in this ongoing battle.** so they are playing their part in the ongoing battle against covid by instructing all their teams/clubs to abide by the new regulations relating to crowds at matches, they are not demanding a showdown with the cmo in the middle of an emergency, fair play to them, no surprise to see the GAA stance it has what the association has become.."
You can be certain that if the FAI are rowing in behind the new restrictions they have got cast iron assurances that they will be adequately compensated for playing League of Ireland matches behind closed doors.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1423 - 19/08/2020 11:35:49    2288224

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The GAA are dead right to question that decision. It is totally illogical and will do nothing to decrease the numbers of cases. It'd make you wonder do these experts have any cop on at all.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 533 - 19/08/2020 11:37:57    2288225

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Replying To Tod:  "Embarrassing seeing the statement from the GAA looking for a meeting with Ronan Glynn, meanwhile the FAI release a statement with the following **The Football Association of Ireland notes the Government announcement today of new restrictions on indoor and outdoor events as the country continues the fight against COVID-19 and we acknowledge the part that our sport can play in this ongoing battle.** so they are playing their part in the ongoing battle against covid by instructing all their teams/clubs to abide by the new regulations relating to crowds at matches, they are not demanding a showdown with the cmo in the middle of an emergency, fair play to them, no surprise to see the GAA stance it has what the association has become.."
They're right to query the empirical evidence, they're just asking for clarity for the reasons they're putting games behind closed doors and reducing numbers at training. It affects the morale of a lot of peple involved with GAA clubs and some small hope of a bit of potential revenue for clubs. Even if it's not so straightforward to explain the reasons NEPHET should show some transparency, might ease some distrust in them that seems to be rising.

The FAI are obviously being sheeplike about this because they need to stay onside, intentional pun alert, with the government for some funds. The same FAI that let the League of Ireland go to rack and ruin. Hopefully, if they get any government funding a large slice of it will go to the League of Ireland. Fair play to their initiave to try and get a few quid by putting their games on their own live streaming service. Similar to counties in streaming live GAA games. Needs must in times of a crisis.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5802 - 19/08/2020 11:41:40    2288227

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The GAA are right imho to ask for evidence. They have sponsors to think about. Sponsors and fans who contribute a lot of money. I keep on saying though that the National leagues need to be completed this year. There is only 2 rounds left, two weekends. What is the problem. Finish league, do it over a month if need be. Croke park, 80,000 capacity. Surely it is big enough for social distancing.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1802 - 19/08/2020 11:42:29    2288228

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Replying To football first:  "While NEPHET and Ronan Glynn are getting a lot of criticism today, remember that ultimately the new restriction on training and spectating is a GOVERNMENT decision. So now I can't go to watch my daughter playing an U12 game, but I can go to the local pub until 11.30pm! Perhaps highlighting these inconsistencies with my local government TDs might be the way to go!!"
It's not a government decision though. No more than the government don't decide what level of weather warning to put out if a hurricane is imminent. Michael Martin doesn't have any medical or immunology expertise. They have to take the advice of the experts on board and act in the interest of public safety. And when the hurricane turns out not to be as bad as anticipated it'll be the government taking the flak, not the experts.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5802 - 19/08/2020 11:48:48    2288229

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I think everyone on here would be happy with what is happening if someone could should that the increase in numbers is as a direct (even indirect would hold some sway) of GAA games. My feeling is NPHET just does not know. They know the result but to everyone in the country they seem to have arbitrarily assigned the cause to GAA games. Unless these decisions are transparent then it only encourages non compliance as people do not buy into them. From experience of tracking other countries, a lot the resurgence comes from people in restaurants and bars and close confines in work, then going home and having big family meals together.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 921 - 19/08/2020 12:30:12    2288238

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Replying To galwayford:  "The GAA are right imho to ask for evidence. They have sponsors to think about. Sponsors and fans who contribute a lot of money. I keep on saying though that the National leagues need to be completed this year. There is only 2 rounds left, two weekends. What is the problem. Finish league, do it over a month if need be. Croke park, 80,000 capacity. Surely it is big enough for social distancing."
It's not the size of the venue which is the problem. It's people carpooling to games, congregating before and after games..

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2074 - 19/08/2020 13:01:57    2288239

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