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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Anti bacterial is effective against covid"
Alcohol content is the key point - CDC says 60% but I always go for the 70% ones. If you don't see it the % on the bottle assume it may not be the correct %.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1799 - 22/06/2020 13:38:01    2281520

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "GAA are looking for clarification on that if partaking in GAA activities is classified as casual contact a whole team will not have to be pulled if GAA activities is classed as close contact then they will,

All indicators point to GAA been classed as casual contact"
Yes but only to the extent that people follow the guidelines on how not to make it close contact. Bottles, huddles, hand shaking, spitting, in a common dressing room and most importantly not standing in front of someone roaring in their face. So yes while playing the game in normal circumstances could be considered casual contact there are a lot of ways that it can be made close contact.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1799 - 22/06/2020 13:43:12    2281523

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Anti bacterial is effective against covid"
Helpful but do not consider yourself protected with antibac.

Next time your by the Dettol wipes in the shop have a look at the fine print as some kill 99.99% or whatever of bacteria where as others say kill bacteria and viruses. Always get the virus one and for hand sanitizer use the 70% alcohol ones which is the only thing you will see in a HSE site (but smokers beware they are flammable) or again make sure it says antiviral on the bottle

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 22/06/2020 15:20:00    2281534

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Replying To moros:  "God..this thread is going way off tangent.."
We await your guidance oh great one. Lead us back to the tangent...

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 22/06/2020 22:33:53    2281579

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Replying To Trump2020:  "We await your guidance oh great one. Lead us back to the tangent..."
By sticking to the thread topic should guide you.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3337 - 22/06/2020 22:51:42    2281581

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "By sticking to the thread topic should guide you."
Ha I think you'll find we veered wildly of the chartered course about 76 pages ago on this one

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 23/06/2020 11:42:15    2281607

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Replying To Breezy:  "Ha I think you'll find we veered wildly of the chartered course about 76 pages ago on this one"
[chuckle]

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 23/06/2020 12:52:01    2281613

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Replying To Breezy:  "Ha I think you'll find we veered wildly of the chartered course about 76 pages ago on this one"
Back to page one then and start all over:)

Potential Rule changes for the actual games as opposed to the surrounding environment or support. The biggest issue for onfield play is the verbals and pushing and shoving that goes on. A yellow card is an ineffective punishment if this is to be stopped, it needs to be a sin bin offense. Its this type of stuff that takes a player from casual to close contact very quickly. Yellow and Black cards should be sin bin and to that they should add holding or the pulling of a jersey. The problem of course is Hurling and some peoples instance that that type of stuff doesn't happen in Hurling and its a mans game etc. For me they have the opportunity to eliminate some of the worst of the games problems which oddly enough would also be issues for close contacts control.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1799 - 25/06/2020 06:11:19    2281777

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Replying To zinny:  "Back to page one then and start all over:)

Potential Rule changes for the actual games as opposed to the surrounding environment or support. The biggest issue for onfield play is the verbals and pushing and shoving that goes on. A yellow card is an ineffective punishment if this is to be stopped, it needs to be a sin bin offense. Its this type of stuff that takes a player from casual to close contact very quickly. Yellow and Black cards should be sin bin and to that they should add holding or the pulling of a jersey. The problem of course is Hurling and some peoples instance that that type of stuff doesn't happen in Hurling and its a mans game etc. For me they have the opportunity to eliminate some of the worst of the games problems which oddly enough would also be issues for close contacts control."
Agree with you here and in my opinion the behavior you refer to would be impossible to eradicate even with best intentions in the world.

e.g. Donegal vs Tyrone. The "attention" Murphy as traditionally gotten or what Cathal McShane will get.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 25/06/2020 09:59:53    2281783

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Agree with you here and in my opinion the behavior you refer to would be impossible to eradicate even with best intentions in the world.

e.g. Donegal vs Tyrone. The "attention" Murphy as traditionally gotten or what Cathal McShane will get."
I'd say that kind of stuff will never go away. Attention, pulling, dragging, etc.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 26/06/2020 22:01:45    2281949

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I'd say that kind of stuff will never go away. Attention, pulling, dragging, etc."
It won't change unless there are rule changes and those are enforced. In Asia they play 9 a side but made all black card offenses, a yellow card and a sin bin. Holding and pulling the jersey was made an additional one. While refs don't have eyes in the back of their head it is a very effective way of eliminating the issues as managers and players would realise that the punishment may cost them the game. Enforcement however is key - look at what happened at the start of the lockdown - having a rule and not enforcing it is worse than having no rule at all.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1799 - 27/06/2020 08:21:25    2281974

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Replying To zinny:  "It won't change unless there are rule changes and those are enforced. In Asia they play 9 a side but made all black card offenses, a yellow card and a sin bin. Holding and pulling the jersey was made an additional one. While refs don't have eyes in the back of their head it is a very effective way of eliminating the issues as managers and players would realise that the punishment may cost them the game. Enforcement however is key - look at what happened at the start of the lockdown - having a rule and not enforcing it is worse than having no rule at all."
I agree with you but I just don't see it happening. I hope I'm wrong and you're right but it's just hard to see it. I think it'll take something drastic like a lad missing an eye or getting crippled for them to act.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/06/2020 18:26:02    2282046

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Obviously we're all looking forward to seeing club and county football and please God there will be no fall out from a public health perspective. But over the weekend, judging by social media there are house parties going on nationwide like it was New Year's Eve. It must be very hard if you're a publican or any business owner in fact. Having spent the previous 4 months closed and having to spend thousands ensuring your business is adhering to the strict public safety guidelines. Only to see some of the general public doing whatever they like. I'll not even mention the face-mask situation.

Recent whinging about the 2020 GAA format just further emphasizes a point I made away back on this particular thread. We've gone completely soft. In March/April things were extremely bleak and any sport at all looked unlikely in 2020. Now, not even into July the GAA have released a fixtures template that really and truly everyone should just be damn glad of. Lets just hope it all goes well.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 29/06/2020 09:06:41    2282200

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Obviously we're all looking forward to seeing club and county football and please God there will be no fall out from a public health perspective. But over the weekend, judging by social media there are house parties going on nationwide like it was New Year's Eve. It must be very hard if you're a publican or any business owner in fact. Having spent the previous 4 months closed and having to spend thousands ensuring your business is adhering to the strict public safety guidelines. Only to see some of the general public doing whatever they like. I'll not even mention the face-mask situation.

Recent whinging about the 2020 GAA format just further emphasizes a point I made away back on this particular thread. We've gone completely soft. In March/April things were extremely bleak and any sport at all looked unlikely in 2020. Now, not even into July the GAA have released a fixtures template that really and truly everyone should just be damn glad of. Lets just hope it all goes well."
I'd settle for anything at this point. Straight knockout, round robin, etc. I don't care. If it can be done fairly safe I'm all for it. Watching golf isn't doing it for me.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 29/06/2020 12:29:24    2282225

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Everyone downloading the Tracker App? Or are there people who believe it's a big conspiracy to get more data on you?
Its going to be needed they way things went last weekend.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1799 - 07/07/2020 13:04:20    2283318

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Replying To zinny:  "Everyone downloading the Tracker App? Or are there people who believe it's a big conspiracy to get more data on you?
Its going to be needed they way things went last weekend."
how do you carry it on the football pitch??

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1678 - 07/07/2020 14:01:49    2283332

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Replying To zinny:  "Everyone downloading the Tracker App? Or are there people who believe it's a big conspiracy to get more data on you?
Its going to be needed they way things went last weekend."
Some people gurning about their precious data are the very same ones who have most likely have Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Maps etc...

As I said on another thread - our grandchildren will likely surmise that it was stupidity and ignorance that led to so many deaths moreso than the actual virus itself.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 07/07/2020 14:50:53    2283346

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Replying To zinny:  "Everyone downloading the Tracker App? Or are there people who believe it's a big conspiracy to get more data on you?
Its going to be needed they way things went last weekend."
It won't work.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 07/07/2020 15:55:43    2283353

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Replying To lionofludesch:  "It won't work."
Only thing it will achieve is the total unnecessary self isolation of countless people and feck the economy and peoples heads up even more.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 07/07/2020 16:00:47    2283354

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Replying To lionofludesch:  "It won't work."
Very insightful post, any chance you could let use know why?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1799 - 07/07/2020 16:02:52    2283355

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