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Why Are Kerry The Worst Supported County In Ireland ?

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Replying To Antifa:  "I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc."
Tourism season is a huge factor. It employs massive numbers all over Kerry and this is their peak time. Most employers would look at you like you've two heads if you asked for a weekend off this time of year.

During the quieter spring Kerry had great attendances during the league relatively speaking.

I think I acknowledged that a legacy of almost constant success is also a factor, possibly even a bigger factor. This is not new thing or exclusive to Kerry.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 16/08/2019 13:40:37    2226400

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What is the poster basing the worst supported county in Ireland on? Most years people point the finger at Galway football supporters for that award. Again no basis for that assumption. Other years it's Cork football supporters. It isn't that easy paying for fuel/transport and then a 50 euro gouge by Croke Park. Mind you I wouldn't mind that complaint once in a blue moon

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 16/08/2019 14:22:36    2226416

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Kerry fans are spoilt with success down the years....absolutely spoilt. It's a long way from Dingle to Drumcondra. I it true people in. Peter west Mayo for example may have to travel 1.5 hours to even cross the county border...same with parts of Connemara, Doengal etc...but nobody puts a gun to our heads...

Finals tickets should be kept split 50/50...I know in our case whenever Mayo get to final you have thousands flying in from the US, UK, Australia etc...many of whom are great GAA people. I also know people who work in farming, tourism, those of us involved in club teams...it's not always possible to attend every game.

Anyway I'm envious of Kerry and Dublin fans right now....the build up to a final when your county is in it, it's like Xmas eve every day....hopefully we don't have to wait many years to return. May the best team on the day win.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 16/08/2019 14:33:16    2226421

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Wholly God, what is it about Kerry that makes this place go into meltdown?!!!
Is this what the next two weeks are going to be on here, nothing but wall to wall Kerry bashing?
I mean sure we're no-hopers in this final, we're just praying our young lads give a good account of themselves against a team destined for immortality.
Why does everyone get so spooked whenever the Kingdom wins a game ....

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 16/08/2019 14:34:41    2226422

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Replying To Mfs:  "Total attendance at the double header Mayo/Meath and Donegal/Kerry was only 48500. 75% of crowd was from Mayo and Donegal that day. No way was there 22000 from Kerry.

Also Kerry's game against Clare attendance was only 5000. Given that game was in Ennis I'd assume Clare had a fair share of the crowd."
Why do people feel the need to just make things up? Claiming there were 22,000 Kerry supporters in Croke Park that day is ridiculous.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 16/08/2019 14:42:46    2226429

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
A bhuchaill an rud is anamh is iontach , McQuillan is the only Cavan man most of us can remember playing in All Ireland final

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 16/08/2019 15:20:34    2226442

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A combination of a long tradition of success and the distance from Croke Park.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 16/08/2019 16:20:36    2226474

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Why do people feel the need to just make things up? Claiming there were 22,000 Kerry supporters in Croke Park that day is ridiculous."
Was there on Sunday and and Kerry had the bigger support and were more vocal

RAHKILL (Westmeath) - Posts: 395 - 16/08/2019 16:54:33    2226496

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The same will happen to Dublin if they keep this level of dominance up. Teams that have been spoiled with success for prolonged periods eventually start to get bored and are crying out for a bit of competition. Look back on when NZ were beat by Ireland some fans were happy to see it happen.

Imagine if Kerry went about 5-10 years of not winning an All Ireland - how rare it would be for Kerry to have an entire generation of players to not win an All Ireland? Especially when it is the opposite in pretty much every other county.

Helm82 (Armagh) - Posts: 13 - 16/08/2019 17:30:53    2226515

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Replying To Antifa:  "I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc."
Listen, 1997 was that and more to Kerry people. 11 years might sound like nothing to yourself or other counties but in Kerry it was a lifetime, it was a Famine.

I was only young and my Dad couldn't get a ticket but I'll never forgot the scenes when we were all shoved into the car to drive into Tralee after fulltime. Every house on the road had kids waving flags at the cars passing and they were beeping the horns in return.
In Tralee itself there was flags and bunting flying from each window, the streets were black with people, singing, laughing, swigging pints, walking on parked cars, climbing the street lights and signs, banging on the roofs of each car driving pass. There was a full blown ceili on the mini roundabout outside the AIB..
For someone who was too young to see the Golden Years Team in their prime and had to endure Munster final losses to Clare etc, I never really understood what Kerry football was and what it meant to people down here until that day.
A man it was an incredible experience. The power of sport to lift us all eh...

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 16/08/2019 17:46:54    2226520

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
If you want to bash Kerry at least get some correct figures you obviously weren't at the game and are just making a number up.

reithi (Kerry) - Posts: 52 - 16/08/2019 18:24:48    2226537

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The poor attendance would also have, in part, been down to a lack of neutral supporters, including many Dubs, who would have been more attracted to the Dublin/Mayo game the previous evening.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 16/08/2019 20:22:25    2226571

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This is all very unfair on Kerry.
Sure there are so many festivals on during the summer there isn't time to be going up to Dublin to watch the Kingdom whallop some minnow in Croke Park.

Puck fair was on last weekend ffs. Couldn't miss that.

Plenty of Kerry supporters turned up for the home replay in 2014.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 16/08/2019 20:36:22    2226578

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Replying To Mfs:  "Total attendance at the double header Mayo/Meath and Donegal/Kerry was only 48500. 75% of crowd was from Mayo and Donegal that day. No way was there 22000 from Kerry.

Also Kerry's game against Clare attendance was only 5000. Given that game was in Ennis I'd assume Clare had a fair share of the crowd."
Do you want an all ireland for that . Poor old Mayo

Kerrymanlegend (Kerry) - Posts: 31 - 16/08/2019 21:34:59    2226605

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Replying To Antifa:  "I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc."
Lol. What.

Kerrymanlegend (Kerry) - Posts: 31 - 16/08/2019 21:36:09    2226606

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Replying To TheHermit:  "
Replying To Antifa:  "I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc."
Listen, 1997 was that and more to Kerry people. 11 years might sound like nothing to yourself or other counties but in Kerry it was a lifetime, it was a Famine.

I was only young and my Dad couldn't get a ticket but I'll never forgot the scenes when we were all shoved into the car to drive into Tralee after fulltime. Every house on the road had kids waving flags at the cars passing and they were beeping the horns in return.
In Tralee itself there was flags and bunting flying from each window, the streets were black with people, singing, laughing, swigging pints, walking on parked cars, climbing the street lights and signs, banging on the roofs of each car driving pass. There was a full blown ceili on the mini roundabout outside the AIB..
For someone who was too young to see the Golden Years Team in their prime and had to endure Munster final losses to Clare etc, I never really understood what Kerry football was and what it meant to people down here until that day.
A man it was an incredible experience. The power of sport to lift us all eh..."
Thank God-Ye were spared the ultimate catastrophe- losing to Limerick in a Munster Final. Ah lads ye would never have got over that- come to think of it we would not have over it ourselves either. Probably just as well it never happened.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 16/08/2019 22:14:34    2226623

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "
Replying To TheHermit:  "[quote=Antifa:  "I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc."
Listen, 1997 was that and more to Kerry people. 11 years might sound like nothing to yourself or other counties but in Kerry it was a lifetime, it was a Famine.

I was only young and my Dad couldn't get a ticket but I'll never forgot the scenes when we were all shoved into the car to drive into Tralee after fulltime. Every house on the road had kids waving flags at the cars passing and they were beeping the horns in return.
In Tralee itself there was flags and bunting flying from each window, the streets were black with people, singing, laughing, swigging pints, walking on parked cars, climbing the street lights and signs, banging on the roofs of each car driving pass. There was a full blown ceili on the mini roundabout outside the AIB..
For someone who was too young to see the Golden Years Team in their prime and had to endure Munster final losses to Clare etc, I never really understood what Kerry football was and what it meant to people down here until that day.
A man it was an incredible experience. The power of sport to lift us all eh..."
Thank God-Ye were spared the ultimate catastrophe- losing to Limerick in a Munster Final. Ah lads ye would never have got over that- come to think of it we would not have over it ourselves either. Probably just as well it never happened."]Should have happened in 2004 and ye should have taken Cork in 2009 as well!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 16/08/2019 23:01:27    2226637

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "
Replying To TheHermit:  "[quote=Antifa:  "I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc."
Listen, 1997 was that and more to Kerry people. 11 years might sound like nothing to yourself or other counties but in Kerry it was a lifetime, it was a Famine.

I was only young and my Dad couldn't get a ticket but I'll never forgot the scenes when we were all shoved into the car to drive into Tralee after fulltime. Every house on the road had kids waving flags at the cars passing and they were beeping the horns in return.
In Tralee itself there was flags and bunting flying from each window, the streets were black with people, singing, laughing, swigging pints, walking on parked cars, climbing the street lights and signs, banging on the roofs of each car driving pass. There was a full blown ceili on the mini roundabout outside the AIB..
For someone who was too young to see the Golden Years Team in their prime and had to endure Munster final losses to Clare etc, I never really understood what Kerry football was and what it meant to people down here until that day.
A man it was an incredible experience. The power of sport to lift us all eh..."
Thank God-Ye were spared the ultimate catastrophe- losing to Limerick in a Munster Final. Ah lads ye would never have got over that- come to think of it we would not have over it ourselves either. Probably just as well it never happened."]Despite losing the Munster Football final in 2003 is still one of my favourite days out at a GAA match. All I can really remember outside of the huge backlog into Killarney was Limerick taking an early lead and the whole terrace around me just in stitches laughing at the pure unlikely madness of it all.

Kerry fans were great by the way. A little smug and cheeky but sure if I was from the greatest foooball county in history I would be too

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 17/08/2019 00:05:26    2226655

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Replying To RAHKILL:  "Was there on Sunday and and Kerry had the bigger support and were more vocal"
I'm talking about a match nearly four weeks ago not last Sunday.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 17/08/2019 00:39:25    2226659

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4 years since Kerry won the AI and only 1 title in the last 9 years. What's their biggest ever drought? I can't see them winning any next decade.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 17/08/2019 02:00:43    2226666

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