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Kerry can't fail.
Mayo's full-back has always had difficulty with robust 14's and I expect them to probe high balls around the house from the first whistle. Mayo have also given away far too many goals to inferior opposition to Kerry this season, and I very much doubt that Rochford will go with a blanket to counteract Kerry's attacking threat. Our midfield has also been suspect for most of the season.
Add in a misfiring Mayo attack (last game against a disjointed Roscommon aside) and it's hard to see us matching Kerry.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 09/08/2017 02:05:14
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Mayo by 4/5 points.
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Replying To Gleebo: "Kerry can't fail.
Mayo's full-back has always had difficulty with robust 14's and I expect them to probe high balls around the house from the first whistle. Mayo have also given away far too many goals to inferior opposition to Kerry this season, and I very much doubt that Rochford will go with a blanket to counteract Kerry's attacking threat. Our midfield has also been suspect for most of the season.
Add in a misfiring Mayo attack (last game against a disjointed Roscommon aside) and it's hard to see us matching Kerry." this has the test of all tests written all over it for Lee Keegan. He might be giving up about 8 inches on Donaghy but i just see him making it his life ambition to not give him a smell of it
theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 09/08/2017 12:00:25
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The 3 wise men on the Sunday Game said there is a a big gap between the top 3 counties and the rest. Did they include Kerry or Mayo in the top 3? Mayo by 2 points.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1758 - 09/08/2017 12:12:00
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Mayo lost to Galway, Kerry dismissed Galway easily.
Mayo struggled for the first half against Clare, Kerry were never in danger against them.
Mayo needed extra-time to beat Cork by a point, Kerry walloped them.
Obviously more to it than comparing results against teams as every game is different but Kerry have been able to up the gears as needed and stroll through while Mayo have looked like they're heading out of the championship in 4 of their last 5 games.
It's hard to make an argument for Mayo to win going on the two teams respective form so far, unless you're a Kerry man playing down their own chances. Which wouldn't be like them!!
mayoboy1 (Mayo) - Posts: 1654 - 09/08/2017 12:51:58
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Hard to pick a winner. I always say and I'll keep saying it. Mayo are without question the most unpredictable formless team in Ireland. On a good day they could beat Dublin on a bad day they could almost lose to Wicklow.
For what ever reason they seem to show up late every year so I'm going to just guess Mayo by one or two for no other reason than them not being favourites and that's when they always perform then again they could lose by 47 who knows
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 09/08/2017 12:53:04
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My own take is this, poor Mayo have looked at times this summer they are now exactly where they have wanted to be all year, back in Croker and 70 minutes away from a 3 final in 5 years. So everything that has gone on up to this point is now irrelevant.
If Kerry play as well as they can, I think we should have enough to win, but we need to be at or very close to our best to get over this huge challenge.
Mayo are strong, supremely fit, physically imposing and they have as much experience as any team now left. In addition they have a really admirable collective spirit that means they will fight to the bitter end no matter what.
It's going to be some battle and it's exactly what Kerry need. If they have serious ambitions of being the 2017 AI Champions then they need to be able to beat the best of what's out there, and Mayo are certainly that.
Head and heart say Kerry, but it's going to be a rollercoster and who wouldn't rule out a replay ;D
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I suppose we have stumbled around like all season like a man that is on his 5th day at the Galway races....now a few shots of vodka red bull has injected more life into us...will it keep us going on the dancefloor until September or will we be head down into a curry chip in Supermacs? Time will tell.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11681 - 09/08/2017 15:50:40
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Replying To yew_tree: "I suppose we have stumbled around like all season like a man that is on his 5th day at the Galway races....now a few shots of vodka red bull has injected more life into us...will it keep us going on the dancefloor until September or will we be head down into a curry chip in Supermacs? Time will tell." Ye might still be on the Dancefloor by the time September comes but the problem is the curry chips probably will have to be pre ordered given the quality of opposition in the final
KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 09/08/2017 16:35:58
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An interesting Stat I seen elsewhere which I wanted to share here:
Mayo's win over Roscommon on Monday sees them become only the fourth team in over 125 years to reach seven successive All-Ireland senior football semi-finals, joining Kerry, Dublin and Cavan. That's a clear indicator of their remarkable consistency in recent years and highlights that we are truly living in a golden age for Mayo football, irrespective of whether they ever win Sam Maguire.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11681 - 10/08/2017 12:27:38
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Replying To TheHermit: "My own take is this, poor Mayo have looked at times this summer they are now exactly where they have wanted to be all year, back in Croker and 70 minutes away from a 3 final in 5 years. So everything that has gone on up to this point is now irrelevant.
If Kerry play as well as they can, I think we should have enough to win, but we need to be at or very close to our best to get over this huge challenge.
Mayo are strong, supremely fit, physically imposing and they have as much experience as any team now left. In addition they have a really admirable collective spirit that means they will fight to the bitter end no matter what.
It's going to be some battle and it's exactly what Kerry need. If they have serious ambitions of being the 2017 AI Champions then they need to be able to beat the best of what's out there, and Mayo are certainly that.
Head and heart say Kerry, but it's going to be a rollercoster and who wouldn't rule out a replay ;D" I think Kerry will beat Mayo in their semi final.
thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 10/08/2017 12:32:50
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Replying To yew_tree: "An interesting Stat I seen elsewhere which I wanted to share here:
Mayo's win over Roscommon on Monday sees them become only the fourth team in over 125 years to reach seven successive All-Ireland senior football semi-finals, joining Kerry, Dublin and Cavan. That's a clear indicator of their remarkable consistency in recent years and highlights that we are truly living in a golden age for Mayo football, irrespective of whether they ever win Sam Maguire." True, and aren't Mayo the county that has retained it's Division 1 status for longer than anyone else in the Division? I think its the 1990's the last time Mayo were not part of the top division.
So yes I'd agree Yew Tree no one can doubt that since 2011 Mayo have been consistently one of the very best teams in Ireland and considering you contesting two All-Ireland between 2004 and 2006, it's fair to say that for over 13 years ye have been a consistent force at the very top echelon of Gaelic football. Now I'm sure for the players and many of the supporters that mean's diddly squat when they is no AI medals in the back pocket but it does speak to the remarkable resilience and spirit of this present group.
Kerry will not and can not take the challenge they face lightly.
When you think about it, 2014 is our last Championship meeting and Mayo have acquired so much more experience since then and last year's final surely proved to them that they are good enough to beat anyone, even the much vaunted Dubs. In contrast Kerry have lost a good chunk of experience from that famous day (Aidan, Marc, Declan etc). Yes we have some very exciting younger players that weren't there (or were bit players) in 2014, but could experience be a decisive factor? You really can't tell how younger players will fare until they a trust into a cauldron like next Sunday.
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Replying To TheHermit: "True, and aren't Mayo the county that has retained it's Division 1 status for longer than anyone else in the Division? I think its the 1990's the last time Mayo were not part of the top division.
So yes I'd agree Yew Tree no one can doubt that since 2011 Mayo have been consistently one of the very best teams in Ireland and considering you contesting two All-Ireland between 2004 and 2006, it's fair to say that for over 13 years ye have been a consistent force at the very top echelon of Gaelic football. Now I'm sure for the players and many of the supporters that mean's diddly squat when they is no AI medals in the back pocket but it does speak to the remarkable resilience and spirit of this present group.
Kerry will not and can not take the challenge they face lightly.
When you think about it, 2014 is our last Championship meeting and Mayo have acquired so much more experience since then and last year's final surely proved to them that they are good enough to beat anyone, even the much vaunted Dubs. In contrast Kerry have lost a good chunk of experience from that famous day (Aidan, Marc, Declan etc). Yes we have some very exciting younger players that weren't there (or were bit players) in 2014, but could experience be a decisive factor? You really can't tell how younger players will fare until they a trust into a cauldron like next Sunday." Yes I believe Mayo got promoted to Division 1 in 1999 and have remained there ever since. As for experience I believe you need a mixture. One could never believe a Kerry team don't have enough of experience. We are of course basing our hope that Mayo will re-produce the intensity we saw against Roscommon on Sunday week...if we do I give us a strong chance.
I think both Kerry and Mayo will be well up for it and it will be a close, physical and grossly entertaining game for neutrals....for myself I will probably be on the edge of my seat throughout.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11681 - 10/08/2017 14:29:51
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Looking forward to it but considering Mayo's form through the championship this game could be as bad as the quarter finals were, I think Kerry could steamroll them but they won't, they are too cute for that, they'll play it like a cat toying with a mouse, they won't want to show there hand before the final,
Dublin v Tyrone could be the best game this season, and the final should be a cracker, Dublin/Tyrone v Kerry, either way I think Mayo are on their last legs, top 3 are now miles ahead of everyone.
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Replying To yew_tree: "An interesting Stat I seen elsewhere which I wanted to share here:
Mayo's win over Roscommon on Monday sees them become only the fourth team in over 125 years to reach seven successive All-Ireland senior football semi-finals, joining Kerry, Dublin and Cavan. That's a clear indicator of their remarkable consistency in recent years and highlights that we are truly living in a golden age for Mayo football, irrespective of whether they ever win Sam Maguire." You are correct YewTree.
However, if this current crop of players don't win an All Ireland, it will always be held against them despite their remarkable consistency and achievements.
Rightly or wrongly, that's what'll happen.
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Replying To GreenandRed: "A draw!" And the replay in Limerick!!
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Replying To Dr.Watson: "You are correct YewTree.
However, if this current crop of players don't win an All Ireland, it will always be held against them despite their remarkable consistency and achievements.
Rightly or wrongly, that's what'll happen." I know that well. The whole county craves for that elusive All Ireland. If we don't get it I will look back on this era with massive regret but that's life.
It was interesting to listen to Newstalk yesterday evening and how high regards that great Waterford team with Mullane, Dan the Man, etc were all held when discussing their great battles with Cork.
There is a stark difference between how Hurling folk views teams and football. Mayo are viewed as bottlers, an object of mockery for many which I find unfortunate but accept that won;t change until we do win an All Ireland.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11681 - 10/08/2017 16:41:11
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Looking forward to it but considering Mayo's form through the championship this game could be as bad as the quarter finals were, I think Kerry could steamroll them but they won't, they are too cute for that, they'll play it like a cat toying with a mouse, they won't want to show there hand before the final,
Dublin v Tyrone could be the best game this season, and the final should be a cracker, Dublin/Tyrone v Kerry, either way I think Mayo are on their last legs, top 3 are now miles ahead of everyone." Cheers Tirchonaill, your dismissive post might just be the last bit of hurt this Mayo side needs to get over the line against those invincible Kingdom cats. You'll see mighty mice roar on Sunday week!
Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 10/08/2017 16:43:25
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I have a massive grá for this Mayo side .
They are a remarkable group of players who keep coming back . Their consistency is nothing short of superb.
I never bought the idea that they were bottlers . 28/29 counties would love to be where they are every year .
I'm not sure if they will win it this year . I feel Kerry will do enough but who am I to write off these players.
Mayo will win a Sam Maguire in the next five years.
Watcing Donaghy will be key.
Midfield will be huge as both counties are brilliant in this sector .
Mayo should continue with the high press but main a solid defensive system.
Could be a cracker .
TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 10/08/2017 17:24:46
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Looking forward to it but considering Mayo's form through the championship this game could be as bad as the quarter finals were, I think Kerry could steamroll them but they won't, they are too cute for that, they'll play it like a cat toying with a mouse, they won't want to show there hand before the final,
Dublin v Tyrone could be the best game this season, and the final should be a cracker, Dublin/Tyrone v Kerry, either way I think Mayo are on their last legs, top 3 are now miles ahead of everyone." Im not sure how you can think Kerry wont taking Mayo very seriously. This Mayo team have made the last 7 semi finals and im sure what evidence anyone has that they are far behind the top 3 as you say.
Should be a cracking game, full of intensity and hard hits. One thing for sure it wont lack in terms of entertainment and plenty talking points..
KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 10/08/2017 18:31:32
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