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Replying To GreenandRed: "Which part of my reply was difficult to understand?" My apologies GreenandRed (Mayo) that post of mine should not have happened, it was only when I signed in this morning that I spotted your reply, mine was meant for another poster, apologies again. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3050 - 16/11/2024 10:16:23 2579845 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "The majority of immigrants are not returning Irish. More Irish people leave than return." Your precious CSO stats say that the largest subsection of our immigrants is returning Irish. I never said the majority overall. Read them and you will know. I agree more are leaving, but they aren't leaving on account of immigration. If they all stayed we would need less immigrants. Likewise if the can't work won't work Irish born people here worked, we'd need less immigrants also. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 16/11/2024 10:20:08 2579846 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "It does not indeed. I suggest you look at the breakdown in the Census retyrns. "Some" is the word you seek." How many are we talking? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 16/11/2024 10:20:55 2579848 Link
Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game? Kew (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 16/11/2024 13:11:23 2579853 Link
The atmosphere at the rugby is terrible for a number of reasons. Now they are trying to generate an atmosphere which is embarrassing. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 16/11/2024 13:28:57 2579854 Link
Replying To Kew: "Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game?" It's constant at American football games 3rd down etc make noise jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1285 - 16/11/2024 13:52:27 2579855 Link
Replying To Kew: "Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game?" The soccer fans were still singing 'we're all off to italeeeee' on Thursday night. Olé indeed! Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3875 - 16/11/2024 14:02:51 2579856 Link
Replying To Kew: "Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game?" It's all very scripted and boring. My cousin was at it last night and I'd say she couldn't name one player. Selfies with pints. Rugby has become more of a social event in my opinion. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11407 - 16/11/2024 14:18:10 2579857 Link
Replying To Kew: "Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game?" When you have to prompt the crowd to make noise then you know the game in question is pure rubbish… The crowd needed no prompting in this year's All Ireland hurling final to make noise… I wonder why…? ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3025 - 16/11/2024 14:51:12 2579859 Link
Replying To Kew: "Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game?" I was talking to a guy who was at the All Black's match. He said the atmosphere was dreadful. Throughout the game, there were many empty seats. I think the lure of the social part of the event seems to be more attractive than the game for many. Telling people how to engage during the game is funny and tells me there's something gone very badly wrong somewhere. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1466 - 16/11/2024 14:58:12 2579861 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""Mathematics is numbers." At the risk of sounding a bit pedantic, mathematics is far more than just numbers." That's never bothered you before Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2085 - 16/11/2024 15:35:31 2579866 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Your precious CSO stats say that the largest subsection of our immigrants is returning Irish. I never said the majority overall. Read them and you will know. I agree more are leaving, but they aren't leaving on account of immigration. If they all stayed we would need less immigrants. Likewise if the can't work won't work Irish born people here worked, we'd need less immigrants also." The official "precious CSO" statistics show net migration of 79,300 in 12 months to April. https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2024/ That excludes all Irish citizens returning. It includes around 5,000 Brits. These by the way are way out of synch with PPS issues which show that well over 100,000 non Irish were issued with PPS numbers in same period. This is probably a more accurate measure as it is impossible to be officially in the state without a PPS number. It is possible to be in the state unofficially if trafficked and part of criminal network. Which is whole other wonderful side of diversity. Anyway, what the figures prove is that the vast bulk of population growth is driven by immigration and increasingly by third world immigration. These are the official figures not mine. If you think that it is a good thing that population of state will be approaching 50% overseas born by 2060 then knock yourself out. I cannot imagine why anyone other than the tech and pharma companies and out own gombeens think this is a good thing. Makes a mockery of the founding principles of the state. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/11/2024 16:00:42 2579868 Link
Replying To Kew: "Interesting to see the screen at the Ireland rugby game telling the crowd when to roar. Is that common in rugby ? Roar coming on screen to tell the crowd to make noise? Also had a man on the announcer telling people to make noise. If find this very strange is it normal in other sports to coach the crowd at a game?" Ask Killingfields mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 538 - 16/11/2024 16:09:45 2579869 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "The official "precious CSO" statistics show net migration of 79,300 in 12 months to April. https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-pme/populationandmigrationestimatesapril2024/ That excludes all Irish citizens returning. It includes around 5,000 Brits. These by the way are way out of synch with PPS issues which show that well over 100,000 non Irish were issued with PPS numbers in same period. This is probably a more accurate measure as it is impossible to be officially in the state without a PPS number. It is possible to be in the state unofficially if trafficked and part of criminal network. Which is whole other wonderful side of diversity. Anyway, what the figures prove is that the vast bulk of population growth is driven by immigration and increasingly by third world immigration. These are the official figures not mine. If you think that it is a good thing that population of state will be approaching 50% overseas born by 2060 then knock yourself out. I cannot imagine why anyone other than the tech and pharma companies and out own gombeens think this is a good thing. Makes a mockery of the founding principles of the state." It won't be over 50% born overseas. Or are you counting children born here to immigrant parents and grandparents? "The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien Government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past." Sadly a minority of people here are fostering their own differences now. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 16/11/2024 17:03:03 2579873 Link
Rugby is a very social event and heavily marketed and priced to suit the rugby fans in Dublin. Friday night games tell you all you need to know. Rugby is out of touch with rural Ireland and they don't actually care anymore about trying to grow the game in rural communities. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 16/11/2024 17:09:42 2579877 Link
Replying To Viking66: "It won't be over 50% born overseas. Or are you counting children born here to immigrant parents and grandparents? "The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien Government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past." Sadly a minority of people here are fostering their own differences now." Wait for Gerry Hutch election from central Dublin constituency in the forthcoming election. That will put the cat amongst the proverbial pigeons! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 16/11/2024 19:21:17 2579893 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Rugby is a very social event and heavily marketed and priced to suit the rugby fans in Dublin. Friday night games tell you all you need to know. Rugby is out of touch with rural Ireland and they don't actually care anymore about trying to grow the game in rural communities." 100% I see a lot of similarities in the rugby fans and saysupporters of Katie Taylor it's event junkies who wouldn't know a jab from a scrum and their entitled to do as they like as pay plenty to attend. but it is why atmosphere is dead for the rugby expect the odd big game. jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1285 - 16/11/2024 19:47:28 2579895 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Rugby is a very social event and heavily marketed and priced to suit the rugby fans in Dublin. Friday night games tell you all you need to know. Rugby is out of touch with rural Ireland and they don't actually care anymore about trying to grow the game in rural communities." GAA is king and always will be in rural Ireland. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11407 - 16/11/2024 20:16:49 2579901 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "GAA is king and always will be in rural Ireland." I'd have a doubt about the 'always will be' by the way our population is changing, God knows what this place will look like in 50 or a 100 years. Bit like the north the unionists can see the demographic will eventually lead to a united Ireland, could be a very different Ireland by then though. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3029 - 17/11/2024 09:35:08 2579939 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Rugby is a very social event and heavily marketed and priced to suit the rugby fans in Dublin. Friday night games tell you all you need to know. Rugby is out of touch with rural Ireland and they don't actually care anymore about trying to grow the game in rural communities." Hahahaha Rugby doesn't care about trying to grow the game in rural communities. Please try and defend this outrageous statement KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 17/11/2024 13:47:35 2579960 Link