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Replying To totalrecall: "The article refers to former aodh ruadh player Anthony mcgrath who played minor and u21 football for donegal, won senior championship with his home club residing and working in Belfast for over 20 years. Is the nephew of former referee and county chairman mick mcgrath. Anyone who knows Anthony will tell you he's a good coach and a gentleman. I fail to see why this has been brought up in the wrong context" I agree with Anthony McGraths qualities as a coach, and indeed I would be happy to see his own involvement in any Donegal management ticket, as he was previously. But I posed the question in the context of, was this the source of Aidan O'Rourke originally being linked to the Donegal job? Because i still fail to see where Aidan O'Rourke would have secured his nomination. Its certainly not on the strenght of his CV, at either club or county level. And all this is appears to be strictly confidential, at the behest of the said former chairman. Because, in my eyes, its clear that he was hoist upon Paddy Carr. If anyone, from any club, can say yes, we nominated Aidan O'Rourke for the position of Donegal manager, then I will gladly say that his appointment was above board, and the 3 person committee were acting within its remit. Otherwise, my position will remain that one or other of the 3 person committee decided that Aidan O'Rourke was the best person for the job, but short of a nomination, decided that they would circumvent that by creating the title of Head Coach. And my belief up to now, is that the former chair was the origin of O'Rourkes position. SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 779 - 04/04/2023 14:38:51 2468806 Link
The review doesn't help the academy, another 2 months on hold. If I was on the cb and my presence there was annoying a huge tranch of GAA people in the county along with our most decorated footballer ever as well as 40 coaches many ex county footballers themselves, I would remove myself from the equation. I would not want me to be seen as an impediment to the bigger picture involving the development of our youth and the future of donegal football at intercounty level. Only the individuals concerned can answer why they are still there?? totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1063 - 04/04/2023 14:55:43 2468808 Link
The cb have already cleared lacey of any wrong doing in relation to the academy in their statement. Why the review by cp?? What if this review says otherwise?? Does this mean lacey, 40 coaches and cn who said there was no wrongdoing all have to go??? Where will donegal gaa be then?? I can tell you what the result of the review will find, it will endorse the cb statement regarding the academy and then addu sure lads some things could have been handled a wee bit better, but sure nobody meant it that way lads. Could we all just not sit down around a table and sing cum bya m'lord..... totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1063 - 04/04/2023 15:03:35 2468815 Link
Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "I agree with Anthony McGraths qualities as a coach, and indeed I would be happy to see his own involvement in any Donegal management ticket, as he was previously. But I posed the question in the context of, was this the source of Aidan O'Rourke originally being linked to the Donegal job? Because i still fail to see where Aidan O'Rourke would have secured his nomination. Its certainly not on the strenght of his CV, at either club or county level. And all this is appears to be strictly confidential, at the behest of the said former chairman. Because, in my eyes, its clear that he was hoist upon Paddy Carr. If anyone, from any club, can say yes, we nominated Aidan O'Rourke for the position of Donegal manager, then I will gladly say that his appointment was above board, and the 3 person committee were acting within its remit. Otherwise, my position will remain that one or other of the 3 person committee decided that Aidan O'Rourke was the best person for the job, but short of a nomination, decided that they would circumvent that by creating the title of Head Coach. And my belief up to now, is that the former chair was the origin of O'Rourkes position." I'm not on to defend the former chairman or anyone else, but my belief is that the individuals who are being attributed with blame, and this would seem to be universally accepted , were not acting alone, and that there are others in the background who have gone to ground and are happy to have scapegoats. totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1063 - 04/04/2023 15:11:26 2468818 Link
Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "I agree with Anthony McGraths qualities as a coach, and indeed I would be happy to see his own involvement in any Donegal management ticket, as he was previously. But I posed the question in the context of, was this the source of Aidan O'Rourke originally being linked to the Donegal job? Because i still fail to see where Aidan O'Rourke would have secured his nomination. Its certainly not on the strenght of his CV, at either club or county level. And all this is appears to be strictly confidential, at the behest of the said former chairman. Because, in my eyes, its clear that he was hoist upon Paddy Carr. If anyone, from any club, can say yes, we nominated Aidan O'Rourke for the position of Donegal manager, then I will gladly say that his appointment was above board, and the 3 person committee were acting within its remit. Otherwise, my position will remain that one or other of the 3 person committee decided that Aidan O'Rourke was the best person for the job, but short of a nomination, decided that they would circumvent that by creating the title of Head Coach. And my belief up to now, is that the former chair was the origin of O'Rourkes position." So the basis of your point is who nominated O'Rourke? Fair question. If not nominated by a club then he probably was linked to the post the same way he was linked to the jobs in Roscommon, Antrim and Down, ie: He applied for them himself. I think it's a huge stretch to suggest the former chairman had head hunted him and an even bigger stretch to suggest another Donegal coach was a link just because he worked with him 9 years ago (based on your article). I honestly don't think our county board will have had the wherewithall to head hunt anyone. The fact that the county board have not been transparent on any of these matters simply gives rise to silly rumours. The CB would be best to spell out how the entire process evolved but lets hope the investigation will do that, but I'll not hold my breath. PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 154 - 04/04/2023 16:26:57 2468838 Link
Lot of new Donegal posters on this thread this last while, would make you wonder a bit if certain people think it's a good place to get their msg out? I hope to God this mess is sorted out soon, I don't know the ins and outs of it but I know enough to know it is a mess of their own making and the CB has to be there to do what's best for GAA in this county, I have no confidence in the current set up at all and I don't think the players do either, just my opinion of course for what it's worth. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3188 - 04/04/2023 19:00:13 2468885 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Lot of new Donegal posters on this thread this last while, would make you wonder a bit if certain people think it's a good place to get their msg out? I hope to God this mess is sorted out soon, I don't know the ins and outs of it but I know enough to know it is a mess of their own making and the CB has to be there to do what's best for GAA in this county, I have no confidence in the current set up at all and I don't think the players do either, just my opinion of course for what it's worth." My prediction is that the GAA will carry out their investigation. They'll produce a lovely report and highlight a few areas for improvement and skim over the wrong doings. Nothing to see here, move along. For Karl Lacey and coaches to return to the Academy a few heads need to roll. PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 154 - 05/04/2023 09:49:03 2468951 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "My prediction is that the GAA will carry out their investigation. They'll produce a lovely report and highlight a few areas for improvement and skim over the wrong doings. Nothing to see here, move along. For Karl Lacey and coaches to return to the Academy a few heads need to roll." I agree with your prediction on the report findings. All of this though is still in the hands of the clubs. Even if the report glosses over the issues, the clubs still have it within their power to bring back the no confidence motions from earlier this week. Someone mentioned the people of the county board could sue if they were asked to resign / lose a no confidence vote. I'm no solicitor, but that would be crazy. If that precedent was set it would have huge implications for every sporting and voluntary organization in the country himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 05/04/2023 11:28:06 2468993 Link
Replying To Mid Don: "Could they..??" Of course they could. Would they have a case? No, they would not. They wouldn't even have a case if both Croke Park, Ulster GAA could conclusively prove that the two of them were scapegoated by someone else (which, of course, they haven't been). SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 05/04/2023 19:33:46 2469150 Link
https://donegalnews.com/2023/04/mchugh-departs-donegal-panel-ahead-of-championship/ Ryan McHugh pulls out of the squad now, no explanation given. We are some mess. We seriously need to get rid of the individuals causing most of this and get our act together quickly. There will come a point where players start packing it in with no intentions of ever returning. Disillusioned. The longer this runs the more long term damage is being done. ninety-two (Donegal) - Posts: 27 - 06/04/2023 08:35:43 2469182 Link
Ryan McHugh gone from Donegal panel? Things just keep getting better. KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 271 - 06/04/2023 09:11:08 2469188 Link
Donegal Democrat reporting that Ryan McHugh has left the panel. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 06/04/2023 09:19:51 2469190 Link
Replying To ninety-two: "https://donegalnews.com/2023/04/mchugh-departs-donegal-panel-ahead-of-championship/ Ryan McHugh pulls out of the squad now, no explanation given. We are some mess. We seriously need to get rid of the individuals causing most of this and get our act together quickly. There will come a point where players start packing it in with no intentions of ever returning. Disillusioned. The longer this runs the more long term damage is being done." Totally agree, this has gone beyond a farce. Why won't the people causing this unraveling shambles just get out of the way? We won't have a county setup soon enough. Or an underage setup worth talking about. The two month review will come and go and the same aul faces will be at the helm, utterly depressing. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1414 - 06/04/2023 10:23:48 2469200 Link
Can we forget about the shambles happening at county level as nothing is going to be resolved until may. Plenty of club football action starting now and would be great if the thread was actually about players playing rather than old men on county boards! tickets (Donegal) - Posts: 103 - 06/04/2023 10:27:56 2469202 Link
Replying To SignTheContract: "Donegal Democrat reporting that Ryan McHugh has left the panel." he wasn't gonna be fit for another 6 weeks anyway. The way Donegal are playing, its probably gonna be a short season, doubtful if he would have played much this season anyway greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 635 - 06/04/2023 10:32:11 2469204 Link
Replying To ninety-two: "https://donegalnews.com/2023/04/mchugh-departs-donegal-panel-ahead-of-championship/ Ryan McHugh pulls out of the squad now, no explanation given. We are some mess. We seriously need to get rid of the individuals causing most of this and get our act together quickly. There will come a point where players start packing it in with no intentions of ever returning. Disillusioned. The longer this runs the more long term damage is being done." He is gone because of an ongoing hip issue as detailed by his father a few months ago. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 06/04/2023 10:47:49 2469208 Link
Two weeks out from championship and the county is in a mess. Sick to the teeth of it all. Plenty of experts about this last few years all keeping very quiet now. Not surprisingly. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2616 - 06/04/2023 10:50:02 2469210 Link
Having lost our three national class players in Murphy,McHugh and McBrearty all at once is a huge blow.The question is have we got players that can now step up and reach the standards that those three reached.Big question. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1150 - 06/04/2023 11:08:26 2469218 Link
Replying To peiledoir20: "He is gone because of an ongoing hip issue as detailed by his father a few months ago. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story." He is gone because of a job offer which involves traveling, which was not detailed in the initial reports this morning, not because of the injury. Maybe you would like to get your own facts straight before you pipe up. ninety-two (Donegal) - Posts: 27 - 06/04/2023 11:11:22 2469219 Link
Replying To ninety-two: "He is gone because of a job offer which involves traveling, which was not detailed in the initial reports this morning, not because of the injury. Maybe you would like to get your own facts straight before you pipe up." So what you're saying that it isn't the CB fault as suggested by the initial poster?? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 06/04/2023 11:22:35 2469225 Link