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Are canning and skehil part of this management??if so surely they must shoulder blame to.that was a bad result but once more it showed the dubs can be very competitive when they get things right. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2512 - 15/05/2025 11:59:49 2609797 Link 1 |
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I would imagine they should probably be rightfully favourites for that final. They've knocked out the two favourites for Leinster in Galway and Offaly and probably 2 out of the 3 favourites for the all Ireland outright….and quite comprehensively too in both cases. They've came on some amount since the group. Wouldn't be considered too vintage a Kilkenny team by any standards.
Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 15/05/2025 12:42:26 2609803 Link 0 |
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Maybe he thought there wasn't much to do with the u20's after winning 5 Minor All Irelands in 6yrs!
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2573 - 15/05/2025 13:08:32 2609808 Link 1 |
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When you are that bad at U20 for that long its comes down to one of two questions 1) Do we have the talent 2) Do we have intelligent management in place for the team and the academy. Assuming that our talent pool is half decent its got to come down to management and the academy. Im wondering if someone interviews for the job as manager/academy are they asked about strategic goals and measures for 3 years, what they see as lacking, how they plan to fix it. What are their differenciators and how are they measured. What the budget and timeline will be, or do they say the guy was a decent hurler in his time so he would make a great manager. One of the former Limerick players was asked what Kiely talked about in the dressing room and he said KPIs (Key performance Indicators), not sure our underage management knows what this is or if its a type of sauce for Steak.You need a lot to go right to win titles talent, management, strategies, science(analytics,S&C, Psych) , budget, timeline, injuries and some luck. I see Galway underage lacking in all departments. BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 161 - 15/05/2025 14:32:02 2609829 Link 1 |
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Or maybe he has the same views on hurling as you do. According to you Dublin hurlers are failed footballers who are awkward and unskilled. You said on another thread you "find it hilarious watching the Dubs hurl".
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2018 - 15/05/2025 14:52:49 2609835 Link 1 |
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Would agree Skittle and Canning should be held accountable. For all their talking last night showed them both up. Regards Niland he was rightfully subbed. Body language thinking he is above. Struck 2 people whilst tackling and should have been sent off. Feel sorry for Healy look a dejected figure at full time and a man knowing last night was a make or break for him. Go easy CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 527 - 15/05/2025 14:57:17 2609837 Link 1 |
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Wexford man writing off kk lol
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 699 - 15/05/2025 15:31:39 2609849 Link 0 |
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Three years ago we went toe to toe with Tipp at minor level in an AI Semi final, how would we fair this year at u20 against them? ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1689 - 15/05/2025 16:22:16 2609862 Link 1 |
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Kilkenny 8/13 Dublin 11/10 so off to the bookies with you to make a few euro.
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 344 - 15/05/2025 16:49:59 2609867 Link 0 |
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Not sure what part of the County your from (did you back Wexford last week?) I got both Galway and the -3 handicap.... but anyone I have spoken too always excepts Galway to bate Dublin in hurling at all levels no matter what.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2573 - 15/05/2025 17:56:47 2609880 Link 0 |
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I never understand why in. A county the size of Galway and amount of players why they bring in player. Into squad who still underage for 2 more years it's so stupid and they miss out playing with there clubs to sit on sidelines and more often than not even mske match day squad it's time county board put snd end to it madness personally I would not even included playes who are underage next year there surely 30 players in gslwsy of the age to play same with minor bring under 16s in and training them 3-4 days a week to not even get a jersey match day county board put need bring in rule to stop this rubbish hspening Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1066 - 15/05/2025 19:20:28 2609899 Link 0 |
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To be fair it's an apples and oranges comparison, Healy is working with underage players who develop at different stages and the panel can change significantly year on year (though the current U20 squad are basically 'his' players) whereas Kiely is working with a finished product, he chooses the squad make up, retirements or optouts excepted. There'd really be no way to quantify 'strategic goals' in terms of U20 IMO, unless you were to say 'produce X number of players for the senior squad' and that of course would be at the discretion of senior management. The fundamental job of any management anywhere is to get the best use out of the resources available, and for me this is absolutely not happening at U20 and hasn't for a while now, this issue predates Healy & co, though it doesn't excuse them, far from it. AFAIK Healy got involved with the minors when the CB decided to have a manager 'move with the group' with a view to eventually becoming senior manager, nothing wrong with that idea in principle as long as the manager in question is delivering, of course, whether it be in terms of player development, winning titles or both. For me, the minor manager must have ambition to be the U20 manager, the U20 manager must have the ambition to be Senior manager, otherwise there's no real point in the pathway system and no comeback on results in terms of success or development. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 912 - 15/05/2025 19:21:34 2609900 Link 0 |