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Jason Flynn "past it"? HES 29 YEARS OLD!

Some of the commentary on here is laughable.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 12/02/2024 14:47:25    2525671

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Jason Flynn "past it"? HES 29 YEARS OLD!

Some of the commentary on here is laughable."
I think they mean that he is "past it" performance wise rather than age wise as he goes missing in matches for large spells too often and then pops up now and again and does something spectacular which is not good enough. He was like that at underage also - not sure what the problem is as he has plenty of talent, pace, size etc. but he just doesn't get "stuck in" and win the "dirty" ball like what Whelan does regularly when tightly marked by 3 or 4 opponents. Jason seems to be most effective when brought on as a sub like in the 2017 AI Final when he and Niall Burke scored vital points but he hasn't really done it since in the important games at least.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3323 - 12/02/2024 15:11:34    2525685

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Did anyone else think that both ends of the Thurles pitch were like a swamp and very ploughed up? Conor Whelan was about to get possession near the goal in the first half and the ball just stuck in the muck. Surely it could have been in better condition than that.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3323 - 12/02/2024 15:32:55    2525691

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I think Galway are also lacking physical toughness (along with height / strength) in many of the players. Tipp were giving some dirty tackles / verbal abuse yesterday and a lot of the Galway players were not responding to it as they were "too nice". I would like to see a bit more "fire and brimstone" from the players to show that they won't be pushed around too easily. For example St. Thomas's have that in spades - the likes of Fintan, David, Darragh, Eanna and Bernard Burke will not be pushed around by anyone. Sylvie Linnane and Pete Finnerty from the 80's teams were other examples. That is another issue for Shefflin & co. to work on!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3323 - 12/02/2024 16:04:35    2525702

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Tommyk I'd consider thurles as having one of the best surfaces in country..however bothe ends yesterday looked to be in an awful state..I do think that allowances have to be made due to the almost constant rain and a lot of it is localised..I saw a picture of thurles from a couple of hours before match and there is no way match would have taken place with tha amount of water on pitch..I thought Walsh park was the same yesterday,ball getting stuck,players not able to rise it and ground cutting up badly..only place that looked in excellent condition was cork but remember what that was like when it was reopened..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2217 - 12/02/2024 16:20:44    2525705

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Liam Collins back from injury and in the squad for the Fitzgibbon semi final Wednesday night.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 12/02/2024 18:35:48    2525730

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Replying To tommy k:  "I think they mean that he is "past it" performance wise rather than age wise as he goes missing in matches for large spells too often and then pops up now and again and does something spectacular which is not good enough. He was like that at underage also - not sure what the problem is as he has plenty of talent, pace, size etc. but he just doesn't get "stuck in" and win the "dirty" ball like what Whelan does regularly when tightly marked by 3 or 4 opponents. Jason seems to be most effective when brought on as a sub like in the 2017 AI Final when he and Niall Burke scored vital points but he hasn't really done it since in the important games at least."
For a change Tommy, I'm in total agreement with you! You're learning lad!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1912 - 12/02/2024 19:34:07    2525738

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "Quick to dismiss ? This is his 4th year on the panel. I'd hardly call that quick to dismiss."
Thomas Monaghan and Kevin Cooney (to name just two) were around the panel, in and out of the panel for quite a few years before they "clicked". Defenders is an experience game. And you learn a lot quicker from a roasting than you do coasting through Westmeath.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 591 - 12/02/2024 20:00:27    2525741

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "thats absolute nonsense after one poor day out. These are 3 of the most lads we should keep and develop them. They are physical and can improve. Its the smaller lads who need to go. Still too many of them in the Galway side. Flynn probably past it now alright, O'Shea is too small for this level. Not sure why we need Niland if Conor Cooney is in the side, its one or the other really."
I've always liked Jason Flynn. I think he'd be great off the bench late in close matches. Not everyone is meant to be a starter in every match I guess. We're lucky to have him.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 13/02/2024 02:02:27    2525776

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Replying To tommy k:  "I think they mean that he is "past it" performance wise rather than age wise as he goes missing in matches for large spells too often and then pops up now and again and does something spectacular which is not good enough. He was like that at underage also - not sure what the problem is as he has plenty of talent, pace, size etc. but he just doesn't get "stuck in" and win the "dirty" ball like what Whelan does regularly when tightly marked by 3 or 4 opponents. Jason seems to be most effective when brought on as a sub like in the 2017 AI Final when he and Niall Burke scored vital points but he hasn't really done it since in the important games at least."
It's psychology Tommy. and at 29 years of age if it hasnt been sorted by now not even an army of psychologists would be able to change him now.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 13/02/2024 02:05:06    2525777

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Thomas Monaghan and Kevin Cooney (to name just two) were around the panel, in and out of the panel for quite a few years before they "clicked". Defenders is an experience game. And you learn a lot quicker from a roasting than you do coasting through Westmeath."
Kevin Cooney didn't click last year. He just played marginally better than he had during his previous years on the panel.

He hits more wides than points and wouldnt get near the starting 15 for Clare, Kilkenny, Limerick or anyone else for that matter.

MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 165 - 13/02/2024 09:28:50    2525796

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "For a change Tommy, I'm in total agreement with you! You're learning lad!"
Thanks youngeen - you know that I always look for your vindication and approval on this forum! lol

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3323 - 13/02/2024 10:26:57    2525805

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Replying To John Doe:  "Fully agree on O'Shea - had omitted him by mistake from my previous post. There's no chance he's good enough for inter county hurling especially when playing junior at club level.
Now I know people will jump down my throat saying Wally Walsh or others play for junior clubs but he has the physique to go with being a good hurler.
Also agree there no place for both Niland and Conor Cooney on same time and for me I'd go for Cooney all day long."
Unfortunately "size matters" when it comes to senior intercounty hurling these days. Galway had mostly big men in 2017 and Limerick have continued that trend since. You might get away with 1 or 2 "smaller" lads but not 4 or 5. That's why I would be worried if we started the likes of Grealish, O'Shea, Monaghan, Niland and Collins together as they would not be able for the physical hits / dominance that the likes of Limerick, KK etc. would bring to the table. I'm not saying playing some smaller lads was the only difference in the second half of the AI semifinal last year but it was a factor no doubt.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3323 - 13/02/2024 10:44:33    2525809

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Replying To John Doe:  "Fully agree on O'Shea - had omitted him by mistake from my previous post. There's no chance he's good enough for inter county hurling especially when playing junior at club level.
Now I know people will jump down my throat saying Wally Walsh or others play for junior clubs but he has the physique to go with being a good hurler.
Also agree there no place for both Niland and Conor Cooney on same time and for me I'd go for Cooney all day long."
And I wouldn't. Niland one of our few forwards on Sunday who actually caught a ball in the air, which is more than Conor Cooney can do. Cooney nowhere near as good as Niland on frees either, and Niland has a neater touch and better control.

Triffic (Galway) - Posts: 124 - 13/02/2024 10:56:54    2525814

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "Kevin Cooney didn't click last year. He just played marginally better than he had during his previous years on the panel.

He hits more wides than points and wouldnt get near the starting 15 for Clare, Kilkenny, Limerick or anyone else for that matter."
He'd walk onto either Clare or Kilkenny teams. Do you think Billy Ryan, who didn't puck a ball in last year's AI final is better than him? Clare are by no means the real deal yet, haven't proven anything by way of success.

Triffic (Galway) - Posts: 124 - 13/02/2024 10:58:38    2525818

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Replying To tommy k:  "Unfortunately "size matters" when it comes to senior intercounty hurling these days. Galway had mostly big men in 2017 and Limerick have continued that trend since. You might get away with 1 or 2 "smaller" lads but not 4 or 5. That's why I would be worried if we started the likes of Grealish, O'Shea, Monaghan, Niland and Collins together as they would not be able for the physical hits / dominance that the likes of Limerick, KK etc. would bring to the table. I'm not saying playing some smaller lads was the only difference in the second half of the AI semifinal last year but it was a factor no doubt."
Limerick have 4 or 5 less than 6ft.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 13/02/2024 12:00:57    2525828

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Saw the U20s had a challenge against Clare at the weekend. Did anyone manage to see it or get an idea on a team?

Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 128 - 13/02/2024 13:03:26    2525836

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Replying To Triffic:  "And I wouldn't. Niland one of our few forwards on Sunday who actually caught a ball in the air, which is more than Conor Cooney can do. Cooney nowhere near as good as Niland on frees either, and Niland has a neater touch and better control."
I'd agree, Niland adds plenty and hopefully improve this year. Conor Cooney has been poor shooting wise but in general puts in a good shift.

Galwayspur (Offaly) - Posts: 230 - 13/02/2024 13:20:17    2525842

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "Kevin Cooney didn't click last year. He just played marginally better than he had during his previous years on the panel.

He hits more wides than points and wouldnt get near the starting 15 for Clare, Kilkenny, Limerick or anyone else for that matter."
He did click last year, he caused teams all sorts of problems, took pressure off Whelan by winning dirty ball and indeed clean ball. He does need to improve on his shooting.

Galwayspur (Offaly) - Posts: 230 - 13/02/2024 13:22:47    2525844

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Replying To Kinvara:  "Saw the U20s had a challenge against Clare at the weekend. Did anyone manage to see it or get an idea on a team?"
I didn't see the game but I'd imagine a lot of the Pres lads wouldn't have played with their quarter final coming up. It will be a nice team when they get up and running with Burke and Niland up front.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 13/02/2024 14:13:50    2525858

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