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We had 21 scores from 40 shots, cork had 79% conversion rate which is excellent. Easy to see where we need to improve. On another day we could have had 30 points and won comfortably as alot of the 20 missed chances were fairly routine.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 947 - 27/01/2025 08:32:54    2587826

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "We had 21 scores from 40 shots, cork had 79% conversion rate which is excellent. Easy to see where we need to improve. On another day we could have had 30 points and won comfortably as alot of the 20 missed chances were fairly routine."
I think the new rules generally allow teams to play football and be positive, hence the high scores, so I wouldn't put my confidence in us based on that.. Cavan hit 18 points in their loss, Down hit 1-20 in their loss. Not sure how many 2 pointers either of those teams had, I think we have 1 maybe 2.

I definitely think we played well, and could have won it. But Defensive woes and just been very venerable when Cork ran directly at us was worrying

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 260 - 27/01/2025 10:59:45    2587844

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An entertaining first game and we didn't play too badly albeit it puts us under pressure this week because you're up against it if you lose your first 2 games. We won 57% of our own kickouts, won 56% of Cork's kickouts and we had 40 shots to their 24. So we had enough of the play to win but Cork did create more goal chances than we did and even though we had 40 shots I don't remember too many misses we had that were sitters where you couldn't believe we had missed. I think elements of the new rules suit us. We've a big 8-12, we have forwards which should make hay with the extra space. But there are a couple of areas we need to improve. Either we need a sitting 6 who will protect the full back line better or the full back line will have to improve this week. I'd be fairly confident for the Cavan game and wouldn't make too many changes. I'd probably bring in Jones for Curtis because the game seems to be gone back to 50/50 long kickouts. And then maybe just defining the role of who is playing 6 a bit better and trying to get Frayne to not drop as deep to get on ball and try get him higher up the pitch. Other than that I would be happy enough albeit it with a bit of pressure on for the game on Sunday

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1538 - 27/01/2025 14:53:23    2587939

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Why can't we beat Monaghan and Roscommon in Navan."
not good enough simply from what i seen last year. it would be the biggest win in years against a team thats top 8 consistently the last decade. i dont see it. if were bet sunday and manage to avoid relegation ill be shocked

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 806 - 27/01/2025 15:47:09    2587961

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Replying To dickie10:  "not good enough simply from what i seen last year. it would be the biggest win in years against a team thats top 8 consistently the last decade. i dont see it. if were bet sunday and manage to avoid relegation ill be shocked"
Few of positives to take from that game and try to
Build on them. Thought Menton was very good at Midfield. Full back line was left exposed at times and really struggled. Scoring 21 points was impressive when
Only 2 forwards really played Morris and Costello.
Definitely need changes in the half forward line they were all poor.

Edgeofthesquareman (Meath) - Posts: 10 - 27/01/2025 16:41:38    2587984

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Replying To dickie10:  "not good enough simply from what i seen last year. it would be the biggest win in years against a team thats top 8 consistently the last decade. i dont see it. if were bet sunday and manage to avoid relegation ill be shocked"
Monaghan are def beatable, I'd be very surprised if both monaghan and Roscommon beat cork

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 947 - 27/01/2025 16:46:31    2587987

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id be surpised too cork will beat one of them, but even though monaghon are beatable meath wont be fit to beat them, i hope im wrong

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 806 - 27/01/2025 22:55:31    2588068

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We missed so many chances and that was the losing of it. But I think one failing by Robbie Brennan when naming his match day 26 players was naming the two Hogans, he should have listed either Billy or Harry. We missed a trick and he should have named our third goalie (Luke Mitchell) listed in the 26 instead of Harry, and in a situation like yesterday when we are in a losing position in the last few minutes, he should have brought Mitchell on for Billy who got up the field in scoreable positions towards the end of the game and kicked wide twice with not great pressure on him, if he had Mitchell as 2nd choice keeper ( not third choice as he is now) he could have brought him on for the last few minutes and you then have a guy for those last few minutes who not only has a great kick out as shown in the challenge games but also has the skill level to put those chances away it could make a difference.
I think it is an option off the bench that should be available if we are in a losing situation going down the stretch. We saw other counties using that option at the weekend.

madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 88 - 28/01/2025 00:51:20    2588076

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Replying To Edgeofthesquareman:  "Few of positives to take from that game and try to
Build on them. Thought Menton was very good at Midfield. Full back line was left exposed at times and really struggled. Scoring 21 points was impressive when
Only 2 forwards really played Morris and Costello.
Definitely need changes in the half forward line they were all poor."
Full back line was really poor, and the half back line wasn't much better. Cork just ran at us, and we had no answer. They kicked 12 frees or so, all just lazy challenges.

Midfiield was solid, Jack Flynn is a really powerful runner and Costello and Morris were really lively. Eoghan Frayne never got into it, and Shane Walsh wasn't up to a whole lot either. Ronan Jones looked lively when he came on too.

Lots to improve on and a must win game on Sunday.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 260 - 28/01/2025 11:33:49    2588137

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Replying To dickie10:  "not good enough simply from what i seen last year. it would be the biggest win in years against a team thats top 8 consistently the last decade. i dont see it. if were bet sunday and manage to avoid relegation ill be shocked"
Very different coaching setup between this year and last year not to mention some of the experienced players we have now back into the fold now to lend some leadership to a very young team. We could barely muster up 15 scoring chances last year never mind 40! Big game this weekend no doubt but I've plenty of belief in this team to put in a performance Sunday

LowerHogan (Meath) - Posts: 51 - 28/01/2025 14:32:35    2588181

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Replying To hyperache:  "Full back line was really poor, and the half back line wasn't much better. Cork just ran at us, and we had no answer. They kicked 12 frees or so, all just lazy challenges.

Midfiield was solid, Jack Flynn is a really powerful runner and Costello and Morris were really lively. Eoghan Frayne never got into it, and Shane Walsh wasn't up to a whole lot either. Ronan Jones looked lively when he came on too.

Lots to improve on and a must win game on Sunday."
I think we aren't far off in terms of second division

I think management tried a half forward line that they thought would win kickouts etc - but given the breaking ball around the midfield under the new rules I think we need more 'dogs' rather than height in this area! Flynn and Mentin will get first touch most times on their own so McBride Walsh etc won't be needed in that way! I don't see Walsh as an 11
I'd like to see Moriarty and Hickey in at 10 and 12 and I like Frayne as an 11! I think Walsh is a decent 14!

But I don't think we are far off!!!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 516 - 29/01/2025 20:19:09    2588422

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I think we aren't far off in terms of second division

I think management tried a half forward line that they thought would win kickouts etc - but given the breaking ball around the midfield under the new rules I think we need more 'dogs' rather than height in this area! Flynn and Mentin will get first touch most times on their own so McBride Walsh etc won't be needed in that way! I don't see Walsh as an 11
I'd like to see Moriarty and Hickey in at 10 and 12 and I like Frayne as an 11! I think Walsh is a decent 14!

But I don't think we are far off!!!!"
Hickey has taken the year off

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 947 - 29/01/2025 21:08:35    2588427

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I think we aren't far off in terms of second division

I think management tried a half forward line that they thought would win kickouts etc - but given the breaking ball around the midfield under the new rules I think we need more 'dogs' rather than height in this area! Flynn and Mentin will get first touch most times on their own so McBride Walsh etc won't be needed in that way! I don't see Walsh as an 11
I'd like to see Moriarty and Hickey in at 10 and 12 and I like Frayne as an 11! I think Walsh is a decent 14!

But I don't think we are far off!!!!"
I Still think Lynch would benefit from that type of role. He is a great playmaker and has bulked up a bit

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 644 - 30/01/2025 08:49:36    2588454

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Meath vs Cavan round 2 in navan, looks to be a cracker of a game and a must win for both sides or they'll be looking at relegation who ever looses. Happy enough with Meath's display the last day, will need to be more efficient up front having only 50% scored with 20 out of 40 shots. 40 shots is a good sign though. Costello rumoured to be out today, would be a big loss considering he too scored the last day and has a big goal threat. Need bigger displays from the full back line, Chris og ran them around last week. Frayne and Walsh will be expected to have bigger games aswell. Cavan don't look too good, having lost to a new Monaghan team and management. Meath by 2

Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 02/02/2025 09:39:03    2588838

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Replying To Meathboyos86:  "Meath vs Cavan round 2 in navan, looks to be a cracker of a game and a must win for both sides or they'll be looking at relegation who ever looses. Happy enough with Meath's display the last day, will need to be more efficient up front having only 50% scored with 20 out of 40 shots. 40 shots is a good sign though. Costello rumoured to be out today, would be a big loss considering he too scored the last day and has a big goal threat. Need bigger displays from the full back line, Chris og ran them around last week. Frayne and Walsh will be expected to have bigger games aswell. Cavan don't look too good, having lost to a new Monaghan team and management. Meath by 2"
Good win, especially without Costello. Always in control but Cavan kept chipping away with 2 pointers, so you can never be too comfortable sitting in a lead under the new rules. Division 2 is going to be a dogfight this year, hopefully we can push on now.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 260 - 02/02/2025 16:16:02    2588909

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Good win. 10 points was flattering though. Cavan gave 2 bad goals away. However, we always looked comfortable. Not sure what Frayne ended up scoring, but must have been close to 10 points. Even though we scored 3-21, it's hard to believe there's Still a bit of reluctance to shoot in the forwards. Messing around with the ball when in the scoring zone. It's very frustrating. We've proven we can play direct. However, I think it's a case of old habits, that are (hopefully) slowly dying out.
A lot of positives to take from both games.
Any idea why Costello was out?

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 392 - 02/02/2025 16:18:05    2588910

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Replying To Selwyn:  "Good win. 10 points was flattering though. Cavan gave 2 bad goals away. However, we always looked comfortable. Not sure what Frayne ended up scoring, but must have been close to 10 points. Even though we scored 3-21, it's hard to believe there's Still a bit of reluctance to shoot in the forwards. Messing around with the ball when in the scoring zone. It's very frustrating. We've proven we can play direct. However, I think it's a case of old habits, that are (hopefully) slowly dying out.
A lot of positives to take from both games.
Any idea why Costello was out?"
I don't think it was that flattering, Morris should have had another goal and Cavan were kept in it with some very soft free kicks. Cavan are very poor and will likely go down.
I wouldn't read too much into the result and the game against Down will tell a lot more.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 585 - 02/02/2025 17:17:13    2588943

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Replying To Selwyn:  "Good win. 10 points was flattering though. Cavan gave 2 bad goals away. However, we always looked comfortable. Not sure what Frayne ended up scoring, but must have been close to 10 points. Even though we scored 3-21, it's hard to believe there's Still a bit of reluctance to shoot in the forwards. Messing around with the ball when in the scoring zone. It's very frustrating. We've proven we can play direct. However, I think it's a case of old habits, that are (hopefully) slowly dying out.
A lot of positives to take from both games.
Any idea why Costello was out?"
First line an awful summation.... the few 2 pointers and some of the handiest frees I've ever seen towards the end, in this division of soft frees, really flattered cavan. Meath were full value for 10 point win. Was surprised how bad cavan were to be honest and that was a negative for us, that we conceded 20 pts to them

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 947 - 02/02/2025 18:14:55    2588968

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First time seeing Brennan's Meath today and a huge step up from last year. No slight meant on the previous management just saying what I saw.
Really well organised, had a plan and implemented it. Much more attack oriented and willing to take their men on and take a shot. The new rules obviously play their part and it is worthwhile shooting from distance but it overall very happy.
Will temper it by saying Cavan were poor but we played plenty of poor teams recently and looked no better than them.
It's a very open division and we will need to be pick some points up on the road.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 480 - 02/02/2025 19:16:15    2588992

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "First line an awful summation.... the few 2 pointers and some of the handiest frees I've ever seen towards the end, in this division of soft frees, really flattered cavan. Meath were full value for 10 point win. Was surprised how bad cavan were to be honest and that was a negative for us, that we conceded 20 pts to them"
Agreed. Meath could and should have been out of sight after 20 mins and felt Cavan were much closer than they should have been at half time. Meath winning everything around the middle and attacked at will getting their shots off. Just to mention, indications are that Meath have a much stronger panel than last year with returns of Jack Flynn, Menton and Lavin huge. Cavan looked really poor though with a lack of physicality. Much tougher tests over next three matches I'd imagine.
Roscommon and Monaghan out in front as expected with Meath, Cork and Louth perhaps a bit ahead of Westmeath and Cavan.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 601 - 02/02/2025 20:35:23    2589029

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