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2023 Club Hurling Championship

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Based on first round results you could jump to conclusion that Trim are way out in front. Trounced Kiltale but they look very poor, could be on the way down to Group B for 2024.

Wouldn't be writing off Kildalkey or Ratoath just yet. Both have plenty of quality young players that can match Trim. Ratoath without a manager up until a month ago and also lads back from travelling. Kildalkey also blooding a lot of younger players which is good to see.

Clann na Gael a good start in Group B. A club on the up. Kilmessan if they get some of their players back might make a push.

Intermediate I had fancied Rathmolyon but it is very tight in Group A. Think Kildalkey will have a say in this. Their team look very strong and with a third team to bolster. Would be great to see Kilskyre make a push with their county lads and some hardened campaigners.

off_the_wall (Roscommon) - Posts: 64 - 11/07/2023 12:23:10    2493768

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Replying To RR:  "Trim v Kiltale: Trim by four after a tight enough game.
Kilmessan v Clann na Gael: Think Clann na Gael are looking fairly good so them by 1.
Drumree v Navan : Drumree have enough experienced lads to see this one out. Drumree by 2
Rathmolyan v Boardsmill : Rathmolyon should be winning this and in reality, the intermediate championship. Rathmolyon by 4

Saturday

Ratoath V Killyon: Cóin flíp, but going for Kiltale.

Kildalkey v Na Fianna: Not too sure what to make of Kildalkey so far, but still fancy them to get out by 4
Dunboyne v Longwood: Easiest one to call for the weekend. Dunboyne by 10.

Blackhall V Dunderry: Blackhall by 2
Dunboyne v Kilskyre: Kilskyre looked very poor at times in the league, but that was without the county lads. Should be comfortable here, by 8.
Ashbourne v Kilmessan: Ashbourne unlucky in the Div 3 final but Kilmessan beat them handy enough last year. Draw
Trim v Wolfe Tones: Tones by 4

Kildalkey v Kells: Giving this to Kildalkey but wouldn't be surprised if Kells smelt an upset"
Well, a mixed bag!

SHC
Very impressed with Trim, but major questions for Kiltale.
Huge statement from Clann na Gael
Dunboyne nowhere near as impressive as had been anticipated
Blackhall and Ratoath both important wins, Kildalkey as expected.

IHC
Kildalkey destruction making me look very foolish with the hope for Kells.
Drumree always comfortbale against NOM
Boardsmill answering doubters even in defeat.

An absolute disgrace with the Dunboyne situation
Ashbourne bottling it and just about escaping with a late free
Tones doing enough to get the job done

You'd imagine that the Kilskyre/Ashbourne game next round is just to figure out the top two

RR (Meath) - Posts: 139 - 11/07/2023 13:37:54    2493789

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Replying To RR:  "Well, a mixed bag!

SHC
Very impressed with Trim, but major questions for Kiltale.
Huge statement from Clann na Gael
Dunboyne nowhere near as impressive as had been anticipated
Blackhall and Ratoath both important wins, Kildalkey as expected.

IHC
Kildalkey destruction making me look very foolish with the hope for Kells.
Drumree always comfortbale against NOM
Boardsmill answering doubters even in defeat.

An absolute disgrace with the Dunboyne situation
Ashbourne bottling it and just about escaping with a late free
Tones doing enough to get the job done

You'd imagine that the Kilskyre/Ashbourne game next round is just to figure out the top two"
Dunderry are a great league team in fairness, if they could just carry it over to the buisness end.

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 12/07/2023 07:29:39    2493914

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There really needs to be a restructuring to this championship within the next two years, There's not a pile of difference between the weakest teams in Senior and the top teams in intermediate and only make sense to cut these from the senior championship, a weaker Dunderry team since last year we're unlucky not to beat Blackhall Gaels at the weekend. Boardsmill gave longwood a 10+ point hammering in the first game of Senior last year after winning the intermediate and unfortunately couldn't keep a full team for the rest of the year. Common sense should prevail and make each championship 8 teams.

SHC
Trim
Kiltale
Kildalkey
Ratoath
Killyon
Na Fianna
CNG
Kilmessan

Premier IHC
Dunboyne
Longwood
Blackhall Gaels
Dunderry
Drumree
Boardsmill
Rathmolyan
Kilskyre Moylagh

IHC
Navan O Mahonys
Wolfe Tones
Kells
Ashbourne
Kildalkey 2nds
Trim 2nds
Dunboyne 2nds
Kilmessan 2nds

ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 12/07/2023 14:47:10    2493983

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Replying To ClashofAsh85:  "There really needs to be a restructuring to this championship within the next two years, There's not a pile of difference between the weakest teams in Senior and the top teams in intermediate and only make sense to cut these from the senior championship, a weaker Dunderry team since last year we're unlucky not to beat Blackhall Gaels at the weekend. Boardsmill gave longwood a 10+ point hammering in the first game of Senior last year after winning the intermediate and unfortunately couldn't keep a full team for the rest of the year. Common sense should prevail and make each championship 8 teams.

SHC
Trim
Kiltale
Kildalkey
Ratoath
Killyon
Na Fianna
CNG
Kilmessan

Premier IHC
Dunboyne
Longwood
Blackhall Gaels
Dunderry
Drumree
Boardsmill
Rathmolyan
Kilskyre Moylagh

IHC
Navan O Mahonys
Wolfe Tones
Kells
Ashbourne
Kildalkey 2nds
Trim 2nds
Dunboyne 2nds
Kilmessan 2nds"
Just call the 2nd Tier IHC, it would give meath teams a fair crack in Leinster for an IHC.
3rd Tier in Junior
4th Tier Junior B

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 13/07/2023 09:46:15    2494062

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Replying To PatrickTopping:  "Just call the 2nd Tier IHC, it would give meath teams a fair crack in Leinster for an IHC.
3rd Tier in Junior
4th Tier Junior B"
Our seniors champs cant win the leinster inter grade let alone that bunch of teams.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 13/07/2023 10:22:41    2494069

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Our seniors champs cant win the leinster inter grade let alone that bunch of teams."
Sorry Leinster Junior. As Dublin do it.
Dublin IHC winners play in Leinster Junior

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 13/07/2023 12:38:18    2494108

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Replying To PatrickTopping:  "Sorry Leinster Junior. As Dublin do it.
Dublin IHC winners play in Leinster Junior"
Yes makes sense that way. Its defintily benefical to teams to get a run against teams from outside the county. Trim have definitely moved on up a grade as a result from last year and you can see they learned from it (even though kiltale were poor for their standards).

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 13/07/2023 15:53:58    2494160

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Yes makes sense that way. Its defintily benefical to teams to get a run against teams from outside the county. Trim have definitely moved on up a grade as a result from last year and you can see they learned from it (even though kiltale were poor for their standards)."
100% agree, any team that will get a good run of games in the Leinster Junior championship will be better equipped the following year to establish themselves as a Meath senior team the following year. Think the last team to have a good run was possibly Na Fianna a few years ago and they've progressively improved since.

ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 13/07/2023 18:29:19    2494199

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What manner of eejit decided to put an IHC game -between two first teams no less - the evening of the All-Ireland final?

Every other game seems to be down for the Friday, Saturday or Sunday morning.

Another kick in the face for club hurling.

RR (Meath) - Posts: 139 - 17/07/2023 15:04:08    2495138

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Replying To RR:  "What manner of eejit decided to put an IHC game -between two first teams no less - the evening of the All-Ireland final?

Every other game seems to be down for the Friday, Saturday or Sunday morning.

Another kick in the face for club hurling."
Don't know…..trouble is you described the person responsible as an "eejit" …….this description doesn't really help…….when there are several eejits.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 19/07/2023 13:03:18    2495615

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Predictions 21/22/23 July Rd2

Senior Hurling Championship

Kiltale v Ratoath (Ratoath to win)
Killyon v Kildalkey (Kildalkey to win)
Na Fianna v Trim (Na Fianna to win)
Dunderry v Kilmessan (Kilmessan to win)
Clann na nGael v Dunboyne (CnG to win)
Longwood v BHG (Longwood to win)

Intermediate Hurling Championship

Boardsmill v Drumree (Drumree to win)
Kells v Rathmolyon (Rathmolyon to win)
Navan v Kildalkey (Kildalkey to win)
Kilmessan v Trim (Trim to win)
Wolfe Tones v Dunboyne (Wolfs to win)
Kilskyre v Ashbourne (Kilskyre to win)

Junior Hurling Championship

Kildalkey v Drumree (Kildalkey to win)
Kiltale v Killyon ( Kiltale to win)
St Pats v Ratoath (St Pats to win)

Junior Hurling Championship 2

Drumree v CnG (Clanns to win)
Dunderry v NoM (Dunderry to win)

Na Fianna v Rathmolyon (Rathmolyon to win)
Trim v Kilskyre (Trim to win)

TownJohnT (Meath) - Posts: 75 - 19/07/2023 13:33:10    2495626

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Kiltale v Ratoath - Unless Kiltale can get a number of their big names back I expect a Ratoath win here
Killyon v Kildalkey - A great game here, big local derby and not much between them at the moment, Kildalkey know how to grind out a win and will do it again here
Na Fianna v Trim - Na Fianna have the youth to compete with this trim team and probably are better equipped than some teams to challenge them, close game but trim by less than 5.
Dunderry v Kilmessan - Kilmessan had their toughest game of the group in the first round, I expect them to win here and the rest of the remaining games in the group stage.
Clann na nGael v Dunboyne - dunboyne very poor in the first round, CNG very impressive, CNG win here all day.
Longwood v BHG- Very tight game here. Longwood always have the edge on blackhall in recent years and I think this will continue, longwood my the minimum.

Intermediate Hurling Championship

Boardsmill v Drumree - Both teams with good first round wins against tough opposition, Tie of the round, Draw match
Kells v Rathmolyon- Rathmolyan need to bounce back here if they have any hopes at winning a title, Rathmolyan win
Navan v Kildalkey - Kildalkeys second team very strong, Navan o Mahonys will need to be at their best to beat them, draw
Kilmessan v Trim - Because the first team is going well, Trim win
Wolfe Tones v Dunboyne - Will dunboyne field? Wolfe tones win either way
Kilskyre v Ashbourne- Kilskyre to get their campaign up and running here , Kilskyre by 5-10

ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 19/07/2023 14:30:31    2495651

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SHC
Kiltale v Ratoath - tight one, but I expect Kiltale to bounce back.
Killyon v Kildalkey - Kildalkey should have the firepower to ease to victory
Na Fianna v Trim - Trim

Dunderry v Kilmessan - an early potential relegation decider. Dunderry looked better in defeat last time out
Clann na nGael v Dunboyne - another tight one but going with CnaG
Longwood v BHG - BDraw

Intermediate Hurling Championship

Boardsmill v Drumree - Drumree
Kells v Rathmolyon - Rathmolyon to win easily enough
Navan v Kildalkey - Kildalkey by a dozen

Kilmessan v Trim - Kilmessan
Wolfe Tones v Dunboyne - is this even going ahead? If so, Tones by 15
Kilskyre v Ashbourne - at this level, team with county players > team without county players. Kilskyre comfortably

RR (Meath) - Posts: 139 - 19/07/2023 15:00:10    2495663

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Big weekend for any team who lost first rounds, local derbys between the K's in senior A, result could make for interesting group if killyon won, and between Dunderry and Kilmessan in senior B, both needing to win here, Kiltale will need a victory to get the season kick started, another loss would make it difficult in remaining games, dont think Na Fianna have enough power for this Trim team.

Kiltale V Ratoath, Ratoath by 3
Killyon V Kildalkey, Kildalkey by minimum
Na Fianna V Trim, Trim by 7

Dunderry V Kilmessan, Kilmessan by 5
CNG V Dunboyne, CNG by 4
Longwood V BHG, BHG by 2

Boardsmill V Drumree, Drumree by 6+
Gael Colmcille V Rathmolyon, Rathmolyon by 10
Navan O Mahoneys V Kildalkey, Kildalkey by 3
Wolfe Tones V Dunboyne, Tones if it happens
Kilmessan V Trim, Trim by 2
Kilskyre/Moylagh V Don/Ash, Kilskyre Moylagh by 4

Kildalkey V Drumree, Kildalkey by 1,
Kiltale V Killyon, Killyon by 2
St Pats V Ratoath, St Pats

pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 19/07/2023 23:04:28    2495734

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Replying To pixey:  "Big weekend for any team who lost first rounds, local derbys between the K's in senior A, result could make for interesting group if killyon won, and between Dunderry and Kilmessan in senior B, both needing to win here, Kiltale will need a victory to get the season kick started, another loss would make it difficult in remaining games, dont think Na Fianna have enough power for this Trim team.

Kiltale V Ratoath, Ratoath by 3
Killyon V Kildalkey, Kildalkey by minimum
Na Fianna V Trim, Trim by 7

Dunderry V Kilmessan, Kilmessan by 5
CNG V Dunboyne, CNG by 4
Longwood V BHG, BHG by 2

Boardsmill V Drumree, Drumree by 6+
Gael Colmcille V Rathmolyon, Rathmolyon by 10
Navan O Mahoneys V Kildalkey, Kildalkey by 3
Wolfe Tones V Dunboyne, Tones if it happens
Kilmessan V Trim, Trim by 2
Kilskyre/Moylagh V Don/Ash, Kilskyre Moylagh by 4

Kildalkey V Drumree, Kildalkey by 1,
Kiltale V Killyon, Killyon by 2
St Pats V Ratoath, St Pats"
Big wins for kiltale in navan and for kildalkey vs killyon.
Big turnaround in levels of performance from kiltale and kildalkey really dominant in their game.

Premier12345 (Tipperary) - Posts: 38 - 22/07/2023 09:04:51    2496071

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Why were hurling games played in Meath on the evening of the All Ireland Hurling Final? Are there not enough days in the year that this can't be avoided? Not fair on those who wish to attend the All Ireland final and enjoy the day. Again the CCC seem to ignore any form of common sense.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 935 - 24/07/2023 14:25:10    2496559

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Why were hurling games played in Meath on the evening of the All Ireland Hurling Final? Are there not enough days in the year that this can't be avoided? Not fair on those who wish to attend the All Ireland final and enjoy the day. Again the CCC seem to ignore any form of common sense."
Yeah I'm surprised no one has highlighted this. I was playing in one of these fixtures myself and it was a right pain in the hole. Waiting around all day to play at 7.30 on a Sunday on it's own is poor fixture making, but to do it on All Ireland Sunday just shows what the county board think of hurling. What should have happened there was to fix the games for 12 noon so that the teams could head back to their respective clubs/local pubs to watch the final together.

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 24/07/2023 16:22:32    2496598

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Welcome to club GAA fella, a sunday fixture at 7 is normal enough. Would it have anything to do with your club not providing referee's?

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 25/07/2023 08:12:33    2496700

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Anyone know why Rathmolyon and Kells got called off again yesterday?

RR (Meath) - Posts: 139 - 25/07/2023 09:38:10    2496709

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