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Replying To ratlag: "5/8 in this round. Tones proved me wrong and again showed they are most definitely a championship team. I didn't see the game but I though Skryne would show up this year after a very positive league campaign.
Kells and Ashbourne was a 50/50 game and in the end it was Beano's impeccable dead ball kicking that was the difference. 2 poor teams that gave the ball away multiple times under no pressure and I don't see wither team making it out of the group after seeing Ratoath and Simonstown play.
Senchalstown I think causing the shock of the round against what most people thought was a very good St. Colmcilles team who now all of a sudden could be looking at relegation battles as they will need to beat both Tones and Skryne to guarantee getting out of the group.
Its early doors but for me the winners are Ratoath with Summerhill/Tones the only teams who will come close to them.
Relegation will be Navan with Curragha/Bracks to beat them in the decider" "Kells and Ashbourne was a 50/50 game and in the end it was Beano's impeccable dead ball kicking that was the difference. 2 poor teams that gave the ball away multiple times under no pressure and I don't see wither team making it out of the group after seeing Ratoath and Simonstown play."
Not so sure about this, not sure what game you were at or if you even were Gaeil colmcille we're very impressive missing plenty of starters
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Replying To Sheridan2010louth: "Flanagan was OK i wouldnt say he stood out, he wasn't catching many if any kickouts but didnt seem to matter as summerhill absolutely cleaned up on any breaking ball around him." Yeah he did fine. You wouldn't be picking him out as a potential Meath player though. Didn't effect the game at all. Didn't field many high balls which you be looking for him to do and got turned over a few times. Kept it nice and simple when he had it for the most part. Certainly a good asset for Summerhill going forward.
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Replying To Meath32245: "Jesus Christ I've never seen so much cap in my life ya don't have much of a clue do ya ?" Care to elaborate?? And I'd say I've a fairly big clue yea
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Replying To Meath32245: ""Kells and Ashbourne was a 50/50 game and in the end it was Beano's impeccable dead ball kicking that was the difference. 2 poor teams that gave the ball away multiple times under no pressure and I don't see wither team making it out of the group after seeing Ratoath and Simonstown play."
Not so sure about this, not sure what game you were at or if you even were Gaeil colmcille we're very impressive missing plenty of starters" Sure missing starters or not makes no difference to the game itself. They ended up winning by 3 points, had their goal keeper to thanks for making 2 point blank saves which in the end won them the game and for all the possession the Kells man had they did very little to threaten Colgan or Hannigan in the goals. Beano kick 3 or 4 frees from 40+ meters out and as I said, in the end that was the difference between the two teams in the end. Kells may well get better than they were on Sunday but they will struggle against Simonstown and won't be within an ***** roar of Ratoath. People can disagree with me if they like, thats what opinions are for but when ashbourne ran at Kells in the last 15mins they were under pressure......Ratoath run at teams for 60 mins when they are on song and Kells won't be able to handle it
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Replying To Meath32245: ""Kells and Ashbourne was a 50/50 game and in the end it was Beano's impeccable dead ball kicking that was the difference. 2 poor teams that gave the ball away multiple times under no pressure and I don't see wither team making it out of the group after seeing Ratoath and Simonstown play."
Not so sure about this, not sure what game you were at or if you even were Gaeil colmcille we're very impressive missing plenty of starters" Not from either club, but I thought the ref in this match gave Kells some very soft frees and Ashbourne couldnt buy a free. Dont know who the ref was but a lad beside me in the stand said he was from Kells ?
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No real surprizes in senior with the exception Cilles going down tamely to Senchalstown.
Only was at the one game which was my own clubs.
Shane Walsh looked to be enjoying his football again, was really up for it and had 1-02 on the board after 5 minutes, drifted in and out of it then, scored one more from play and tapped over a few frees, missed one or two he will be disappointed with knowing Shane but definitely looks a better player than last year when we met.
Danny Quinn was a handful for Na Fianna also, scoring 1-07 ( 1-03 from play ).
Devine did well but you didn't stand out IMO but he has been struggling with injuries so maybe a bit harsh on him.
Bracks only had a 10 minute spell in first half and the same in the second half and managed to go a point up early in the second half.
Injuries have us crippled and practically played the last 20 minutes with 13 men in which Na Fianna exploited and kicked on to score with plenty in hand.
Cant see Na Fianna troubling any of the top 4 or 5 and will be a huge game with them and Dunboyne next time out.
As for ourselves we need to concentrate on getting lads back from injuries, Summerhill will have too much for us which will leave last game dead rubber.
If we get our lads back we can comfortably survive.
The Ha and NOM look to be really struggling but anything can happen.
Loads of luck needed to win it out and stay up, keeping lads fit is critical, definitely cost Ratoath the title last year.
I've a nice bet on Ratoath at 11/4 and a sneaky score on the Hill at 11/1
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Replying To kingofclubs: "Not from either club, but I thought the ref in this match gave Kells some very soft frees and Ashbourne couldnt buy a free. Dont know who the ref was but a lad beside me in the stand said he was from Kells ?" Carnaross club referee
You should never be allowed referee a neighbouirng team
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Replying To brian: "Carnaross club referee
You should never be allowed referee a neighbouirng team" Well if we were to go by your suggestion there would not be a game played in the county, every club is bordering at least 5 or 6 clubs so where do we get referees from.
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 09/08/2022 13:25:20
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Out of interest, has there been a game in recent times where a team scores 23 points and lost? I remember a game between Dunboyne and Simonstown years ago that was very high scoring but can't remember one like Sunday's. McKeever was outstanding as usual.
Ratoath's defence would worry me. All well and good shooting the lights out when you're allowed but we've struggled against stronger defences with quality forwards that can pick us off at the other end (like Tones last season).
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Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Out of interest, has there been a game in recent times where a team scores 23 points and lost? I remember a game between Dunboyne and Simonstown years ago that was very high scoring but can't remember one like Sunday's. McKeever was outstanding as usual.
Ratoath's defence would worry me. All well and good shooting the lights out when you're allowed but we've struggled against stronger defences with quality forwards that can pick us off at the other end (like Tones last season)." It would be more your half back like that would worry me, watched them last year in the semi final against the Tones. They weren't able to defend 1-1 scenarios, positioning was shocking, all 3 got sucked so far up the pitch. No McGill was a huge loss as well, he's the glue that holds it altogether.
Out of curiosity who were the 6 backs that started against Simonstown?
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Replying To UsernameInvalid: "It would be more your half back like that would worry me, watched them last year in the semi final against the Tones. They weren't able to defend 1-1 scenarios, positioning was shocking, all 3 got sucked so far up the pitch. No McGill was a huge loss as well, he's the glue that holds it altogether.
Out of curiosity who were the 6 backs that started against Simonstown?" I was at the game - the back 7 for Ratoath starting were
GK: McPartlin - seems to be settling in to role post Duffy retiring. One bad kick out but otherwise on the money. Was good under high ball too!
Sean Brazil - Was going well but picked up a bad injury early on and left the field. Good man marker and very quick - if they get him back he will be a starter
Conor McGill - I can't say anything new here - the rock for both club and county
Ben Wyer - I believe he is just back from injury - good player who has two senior championship medals and is still only 21!
Ciaran O'Fearraigh - Captained the team in 2019 - played at corner back after Brazil went off
Gavin McGowan - Very classy player
Brian Daly - Has been in around the panel for a long time - did well on the wing
Gerrard came on for Brazil - he's apparently just back from injury too - looks like a good young player also.
I note from the team sheet that Liam Kelly and Thomas Corbett were on the bench but neither got on. But both are only 18 so plenty of time.
Simonstown had an interesting half back line - Josh Carolan played at wing back and was very good going forward. What surprised me was that 'Squealer' Kane lined out at 6 and Briain Conlon lined out at 7! I would have expected it to be the other way round. I saw Kane play against Dunboyne a couple of years ago - he played at 7 and was outstanding. He did well at 6 but I am not sure Conlon was so comfortable at 7!
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So after a bad week on my part last round - I'll give it another try!!
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Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group A, Venue: Walterstown, (Round 2), Skryne V Seneschalstown GFC 18:30, Ref: David Coldrick
I know Skryne were beaten last day out and the Furze men had a good win but I think Skyrne will win this especially if Campion is back!!
Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group B, Venue: Dunsany, (Round 2), Curraha V Trim 18:30, Ref: Stephen Dawson
I think Trim will win this handy enough!
Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group C, Venue: Pirc Tailteann, (Round 2),
Simonstown V Gaeil Colmcille 18:30, Ref: Derek Ryan
Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship -
I think Simonstown will come out on top here but expect it to be tight!
Group D, Venue: St. Finians Park, (Round 2),
Summerhill V Ballinabrackey 18:30, Ref: Keith Sheerin
Can't see anything but a Summerhill win here!!
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Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group A, Venue: Ashbourne, (Round 2),
St Colmcilles V Wolfe Tones 14:00, Ref: Andrew Smith
I think Cilles will be raging at their first round showing - Tones will be buoyed by theirs! I see this as a potential draw!!
Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group B, Venue: Skryne, (Round 2),
Navan O'Mahonys V Moynalvey 12:00, Ref: Martin Dawson
Going to go for a narrow Moynalvey win - NOM seem to be at 6s and 7s!
Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group C, Venue: Dunshaughlin, (Round 2),
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Ratoath 17:30, Ref: Cormac Reilly
Ratoath but I think it will be a tight game!
Fairyhouse Steel - Senior Football Championship - Group D, Venue: Kilcloon, (Round 2), Na Fianna CLG V St Peter's, Dunboyne 14:00, Ref: Kieran Olwell
Dunboyne to get back on track after a poor display against Summerhill!
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Group A, Skryne V Seneschalstown
Skryne to get back to winning ways
St Colmcilles V Wolfe Tones
Cilles be massively dissapointed with their loss in Round one conceding 4 goals. Tones got 3 in their game. Cilles to shore up defense and may get a win.
Group B,
Curraha V Trim. Curraha in trouble Trim to win but not by a lot
Navan O'Mahonys V Moynalvey . Moynalvey as usual will struggle to a win
Group C,
Simonstown V Gaeil Colmcille
Kells keep on surprising and can win again here
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Ratoath..Once again Don/Ash show their a middling Senior team. Ratoath to win again on their way to glory
Group D,
Summerhill V Ballinabrackey.
Bracks to battle on but Summerhill as the main challengers to Ratoath to win
Na Fianna CLG V, Dunboyne
Dunboyne seem to have slipped a good bit but Na Fianna are not a realistic challenger. maybe a draw
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5/8 in round 1 so lets see can we improve on that.
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Group A, Skryne V Seneschalstown
Interesting one here, Skryne looked surprisingly flat against Tones in round 1 compared to how they had played in the league, where as Seneschalstown seemed far more sharp and clinical in their opening round win over Cilles. If Campion is back its a massive boost for Skryne and may well be the difference for the, however without him they seem to have no link to get the ball into Finnerty to do damage.
I'm going to go with a narrow win for Seneschalstown
St Colmcilles V Wolfe Tones
Cilles missing Conlon in round 1 shows how reliant they are on him to get wins which isn't good news for them. Tones showed that they are a championship team in beating Skryne and don't need Cian Ward in the team to get wins so I'm going to go with Tones to make it 2 from 2 and beat the Cilles men here setting up a top of the table clash with Seneschalstown in round 3.
Group B,
Curraha V Trim
Curraha struggling badly again this year and against a fast, strong and energetic Trim team I can see nothing but a second defeat and another relegation battle for the Ha.
Navan O'Mahonys V Moynalvey
The 2 weakest teams in Senior are Curraha and O Mahoneys and will most likely contest the relegation decider I would imagine. Moynalvey will win this by a few and join Trim in the knockouts of the championship end from this group.
Group C,
Simonstown V Gaeil Colmcille
An interesting one here, Simonstown well beaten by Ratoath in round one and yet still scored 3-14 I think it was which would win most games of hurling not to mind football. Kells bet Ashbourne in the end but managed to let a 9 point lead slip to the minimum and only for 2 excellent saves from the keeper would have drawn or lost the game. Mattimoe seemed to be icing his hamstring after being taken off which would be a huge loss for the Kells men. This game will be nip and tuck but I'm going to go with the Navan men (just about) and say Simonstown by a point or two
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Ratoath
A routine win here for Ratoath. These two normally produce a tight cagey 1st half as most Derbys are but Ratoath have to much pace, depth and scoring threat for the Moores. I expect another high scoring game with Ratoath winning by 5+
Group D,
Summerhill V Ballinabrackey.
The Bracks have shown they are able to compete at Senior and won't fear the Hill at all but as a previous poster said, I think Summerhill are one of the main contenders for the championship this year and don't see anything but a comprehensive win here for them.
Summerhill by 5+
Na Fianna CLG V, Dunboyne
Dunboyne very very disappointing in Round 1 and could find themselves dumped out of the championship here if they aren't careful. Na Fianna are a tough, dogged hard working team with a few different lads capable of scoring as well. I don't think either team will challenge at the business end of the championship and this game will be a ding dong affair, but I'm going to edge in the favour of Dunboyne just about.
Dunboyne by 1
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Replying To ratlag: "5/8 in round 1 so lets see can we improve on that.
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Group A, Skryne V Seneschalstown
Interesting one here, Skryne looked surprisingly flat against Tones in round 1 compared to how they had played in the league, where as Seneschalstown seemed far more sharp and clinical in their opening round win over Cilles. If Campion is back its a massive boost for Skryne and may well be the difference for the, however without him they seem to have no link to get the ball into Finnerty to do damage.
I'm going to go with a narrow win for Seneschalstown
St Colmcilles V Wolfe Tones
Cilles missing Conlon in round 1 shows how reliant they are on him to get wins which isn't good news for them. Tones showed that they are a championship team in beating Skryne and don't need Cian Ward in the team to get wins so I'm going to go with Tones to make it 2 from 2 and beat the Cilles men here setting up a top of the table clash with Seneschalstown in round 3.
Group B,
Curraha V Trim
Curraha struggling badly again this year and against a fast, strong and energetic Trim team I can see nothing but a second defeat and another relegation battle for the Ha.
Navan O'Mahonys V Moynalvey
The 2 weakest teams in Senior are Curraha and O Mahoneys and will most likely contest the relegation decider I would imagine. Moynalvey will win this by a few and join Trim in the knockouts of the championship end from this group.
Group C,
Simonstown V Gaeil Colmcille
An interesting one here, Simonstown well beaten by Ratoath in round one and yet still scored 3-14 I think it was which would win most games of hurling not to mind football. Kells bet Ashbourne in the end but managed to let a 9 point lead slip to the minimum and only for 2 excellent saves from the keeper would have drawn or lost the game. Mattimoe seemed to be icing his hamstring after being taken off which would be a huge loss for the Kells men. This game will be nip and tuck but I'm going to go with the Navan men (just about) and say Simonstown by a point or two
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Ratoath
A routine win here for Ratoath. These two normally produce a tight cagey 1st half as most Derbys are but Ratoath have to much pace, depth and scoring threat for the Moores. I expect another high scoring game with Ratoath winning by 5+
Group D,
Summerhill V Ballinabrackey.
The Bracks have shown they are able to compete at Senior and won't fear the Hill at all but as a previous poster said, I think Summerhill are one of the main contenders for the championship this year and don't see anything but a comprehensive win here for them.
Summerhill by 5+
Na Fianna CLG V, Dunboyne
Dunboyne very very disappointing in Round 1 and could find themselves dumped out of the championship here if they aren't careful. Na Fianna are a tough, dogged hard working team with a few different lads capable of scoring as well. I don't think either team will challenge at the business end of the championship and this game will be a ding dong affair, but I'm going to edge in the favour of Dunboyne just about.
Dunboyne by 1" Skryne V Seneschalstown - skyrne win with Campion back but be close
St Colmcilles V Wolfe Tones - Tones could bully a younger team and dominate them with O Callaghan & Diamond midfield , Glynn will pick up Conlon - ciiles in a few years
Curraha V Trim - the Ha wont have the squad to beat Trim who are playing well with Lynch doing the damage
Navan O'Mahonys V Moynalvey - Draw = But Moynalvey should be winning with O Sullivan
Simonstown V Gaeil Colmcille - I fancy Kells with Beano on top form
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Ratoath - - Derby very little difference but ratoath with Jack Flynn midfield and McMahon will win it for them
Summerhill V Ballinabrackey. - Flanagan & Bryne Midfield could dominate and Dardis back , bracks might struggle in second half
Na Fianna CLG V, Dunboyne - If Walsh held , Na Fianna will struggle to score while Lenihan could do damage at other end , Dunboyne win
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Skryne V Seneschalstown - Skryne weren't bad vs the Tones, it was the counter attack that killed them. Was surprised by Seneschalstowns result as it was top of division 1 vs mid table division 2. Skryne to get back to winning ways here
St Colmcilles V Wolfe Tones - If Cilles put in anything near the same defensive against the Tones they could conceded 10 goals. Tones should win this comfortably
Curraha V Trim - It could be closer than people think, Trim aren't the finished product yet while the Ha still have James Mc, Shortfall, O Connor and can trouble other teams.
Navan O'Mahonys V Moynalvey - Still not sure how bad Navan actually are but Moynalvey will come through this handy.
Simonstown V Gaeil Colmcille - Really hard one to call, McKeever vs Beano and Mattimoe... I think Kells have the backs to snuff out McKeever whilst Simonstown might struggle to shut down but Kells danger men.
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Ratoath - Ratoath have better forwards and should be winning this by about 10 points
Summerhill V Ballinabrackey. - Summerhill are my tip to win the championship and the Bracks won't stop them
Na Fianna CLG V, Dunboyne - Dunboyne are missing Shane Mc and Lavin badly while Lenihan isn't shooting the lights out. Na Fianna by the minimum
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 18/08/2022 16:34:42
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Ratoath 4-15 Donaghmore Ashbourne 1-13
Wolfe Tones 1-12 St. Colmcilles 0-10
Na Fianna 0-16 Dunboyne 1-10
Moynalvey 2-14 O'Mahonys 0-13
Skryne 1-13 Seneschalstown 2-3
Trim 2-15 Curraha 0-5
Gaeil Colmcille 1-18 Simonstown 0-11
Summerhill 1-11 Ballinabrackey 0-8
6 out of 8 this week! Didn't think Na Fianna would beat Dunboyne - I thought Dunboyne would be contenders but now in relegation play offs!
I thought Simonstown would beat Kells but they were poor yesterday!
So - I think I'm right in saying that 6 spots in the 1/4 finals are already guaranteed - and I'd say Tones are a shoo in in group A
That means there are a lot of dead runner games next time out!!
Looking forward to hearing news from the games! I was at Ratoath Ashbourne - Ashbourne were very good in first 15 minutes but lack of discipline cost them a chance - they finished 13 men!
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 21/08/2022 19:52:18
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Got to go to 3 games at the weekend. Skyrne and Seneschalstown was full of mistakes. Skryne probably the better side in particular in the 3rd quarter but Seneschalstown kicked loads of wides in the first half in particular Keating and Finnegan from frees who you'd expect to be scoring. They were still right in the game before they gifted Skryne a goal with a bad back pass. Campion made a few mistakes but you could still see his class, got 3 from play and got on the ball loads. Should be a shoo in for a call up again under COR. Dunboyne Na Fianna went the wrong way from my perspective unfortunately. Stop start form all year and missing too many lads unfortunately. Na Fianna were value for their win. I've watched both their games Shane Walsh looks like he's back to his old self. I couldn't wrap my head around his Meath form the past 3 seasons as he's shown so much promise at underage, club, Sigerson and flashes with the county. A big part of COR's job will be to get him firing for Meath. Then Ratoath Ashbourne. The first half was brilliant. Ashbourne came out like a house on fire. Unbelievable off ball runs, carving Ratoath up. The red cards killed Ashbourne and the game unfortunately although they were probably warranted. When Ratoath get on top they can put up scores in a hurry though and McGowan and Flynn in midfield both seemed to have improved a lot after county exposure this year. Ratoath used to be seen as a small team but not anymore McGill, G McGowan, D McGowan, Jack Flynn and Keith McCabe are all massive men and the spine of the team. Flynn and McGowan in midfield are now the engine of the team and I think they make them tick more than the Wallace's (Joey was injured at the weekend) and McMahon do. In Campion, Walsh, D McGowan and Flynn I saw 4 young lads with real physicality in good form. Hopefully that carries through to Meath
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8 from 8, if only I were a betting man.
Groups B, C and D are sorted, it's just a matter of who finishes first and second which is important as Summerhill will want to avoid Ratoath or Tones and visa versa.
Group A is still interesting, Tones need a draw or win to guarantee top spot however if Seneschalstown win by 6 or more and Skryne win by 5 or more then Tones are in relegation.
Cilles can also qualify, if Tones beat Seneschalstown by 6 and Cilles win by 7, Tones and Cilles are in the quarters.
My quarter final line up is as follows:
Tones vs Kells
Ratoath vs Skryne
Summerhill vs Moynalvey
Trim vs Na Fianna
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 22/08/2022 10:30:54
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