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The way people are talking you would think tyrone were at full strength hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 27/01/2020 09:39:39 2262787 Link 5 |
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Should we look at an outfield player for the goals. Someone who is accurate with the ball from the hand and off the ground. Realistically the kick out is more important than shot stopping. A keeper might have 3 shots to save in a match where as they will have at least 15-20 kickouts. It is vital for momentum and confidence for the ball to be retained form the kickout to be in with a fighting chance against the better teams. It did effect us in numerous matches last year and seems to effect us more than any other county. Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 27/01/2020 09:50:12 2262790 Link 0 |
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Presumably that was the whole idea of originally putting J Sheridan and Dardis in goals. My problem is however was that that plan was not properly carried through and there was clearly no conviction to it, Sheridan was dropped and then Dardis was later played outfield - instead we brought in Yorke and then threw him under a bus. Why wasn't Dardis trained up this past year, put in goals and then given the experience he needs? To my mind, he has the most potential of the outfield players to be a GK as he is ice cold under pressure (should be the team's free taker) and is an exceptional striker of the ball off the ground. But lads, its 3 years later we still haven't sorted out the keeper situation. There are many uncontrollables (injuries etc) but having a couple of decent goalkeepers and a few competent free takers are controllables that mangement should have had squared away this long time. Its very frustrating as these are the basics - gaining possession off our own kickouts as much as possible and then converting scoring frees - Dublin wouldn't have won a single All Ireland without Cluxton and Dean Rock - its basic stuff. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 27/01/2020 10:15:47 2262795 Link 15 |
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They may not have been better shot stoppers but they certainly had better kick outs, were comfortable on the ball as they are outfield players for their clubs and were a commanding presence.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 27/01/2020 10:17:26 2262796 Link 0 |
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Isn't that what they are doing with Barry Dardis? And what was done with Paddy O'Rourke in the past? Dardis is an outfield player but he lost a couple of kickouts at the weekend too. To be fair, it is not always the keepers fault. The movement of the outfield players is critical - particularly the wing half backs and wing half forwards. The Kerry keeper plays outfield for his club (full forward) - his kickouts were decent the other night but both Dublin and Kerry are perpetual motion outfield when kickouts are being taken! ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 27/01/2020 10:19:18 2262798 Link 0 |
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I think some lads need to get their story straight. There's nothing wrong with blind love for Meath and always believing in the team to win before every game they play. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 27/01/2020 10:19:41 2262799 Link 19 |
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The injuries situation is absolutely ridiculous and you'd have to say, it doesn't reflect terribly well on the new S&C coach. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 27/01/2020 10:22:05 2262803 Link 17 |
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Well said. From a true supporter.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/01/2020 10:32:02 2262811 Link 1 |
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Back in 1-2 weeks according to McEntee and badly needed too.
gwanyagudthing (Meath) - Posts: 88 - 27/01/2020 12:08:27 2262843 Link 0 |
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Leaving aside the goalkeeper issue for a minute, the statistics would suggest (and this was mentioned on the radio during the match) that we were very inefficient at taking our chances. Something like 4/13 at half time which is poor. We seemed to drop a lot short and Nally spoke in the off-season about the soft foot which we obviously haven't sorted out. No score in 30 minutes would suggest we hadn't the forwards couldn't create / take their chances. gwanyagudthing (Meath) - Posts: 88 - 27/01/2020 12:12:58 2262844 Link 1 |
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if he wants to play he needs to make himself available and stop making excuses about the past and big Joe been brought back that time
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 27/01/2020 13:09:54 2262869 Link 17 |
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there are too many so called meath supporters coming on here after losing just to get a free shot oat u, they seem to get a kick out of it . I would not answer these fake supporters.
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 27/01/2020 13:25:24 2262876 Link 17 |
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Probably missed a player like Graham Reilly - at his peak. The same could be said for Trevor Giles, Graham Geraghty, Colm O'Rourke and (from a goalie pov) Brendan Murphy and Cormac O'Suullivan. Very surprised that more progress not made on goalkeeper front. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 27/01/2020 13:28:11 2262879 Link 2 |
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Extremely bad form from Hoganstand to post an article specifically highlight Yorke's kickouts. The headline is even titled "Goalkeeping woes for Meath". The chap needs support and our own county's forum is posting stuff like this. Bizarre and uncalled for. meathgaa91 (Meath) - Posts: 48 - 27/01/2020 14:02:09 2262893 Link 2 |
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I think if we look at what our strongest 15 is I would suggest it is something close to below Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 27/01/2020 14:04:26 2262895 Link 0 |
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Interesting to note the amount of 'support' this impassioned speech on how hopeless Meath are has received. Do people really support this negative 'quit before you start' type of bile? If so, it's no wonder we're struggling given the appalling level of defeatism in the county. We lost a game of football, there are 6 more in the NFL, lets see how they go before throwing the toys out of the pram and attacking fans who have the nerve to display optimism. Ps, was there really that much genuine support for that downbeat tirade or is there some sad case going around with mulitple accounts supporting any comment which castigates Meath and/or optimistic Meath fans. Anyway I hope we beat Donegal just to píss off all the 'Meath fans' :-) Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/01/2020 14:11:11 2262898 Link 18 |
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"Dardis did nothing wrong in the second half " Colgan was injured in the warm up that we know. So Yorke played, and to my mind the only reason Mc Entee should have taken Yorke off and put a outside player in goals is if Yorke got injured. I find utterly ridiculous that Mc Entee could make tactical a change like this. Daris is NOT a sub goal keeper. So your not replacing like for like.He was tried there in the O'byrne early last year 2019 and it didn't work out at all. This is nothing short of Meath Management scoring a own goal. Yorke might not have been playing great. But to say "Dardis did nothing wrong in the second half " is wrong. I counted at least 3 major mistakes 1 where he kicked inside his own 20 meter line resulting in throw up on the 20 meter line. 2 He kicked straight to a Tyrone player, and he poped it over the bar. 3 He straight over the sideline 30 meters out sideline ball to Tyrone. And Daris long kicks outs seemed to find Tyrone player everytime. Although our midfield he to take some blame here. So say Daris did nothing not wrong is not correct. I dont he me wrong Daris tried his best that was plain to be seen ,as need every Meath Player. But I completely felt for Barry Daris he should NEVER have been put this position other than a injury. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1265 - 27/01/2020 14:15:10 2262900 Link 0 |
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It took a first half meltdown from Yorke for people to accept what I was saying in the build up to the game regarding Colgan and Yorke was correct. Colgan is by far the best of three options that we have available to us. It is remarkable though the double standards the Meath 'supporters' have when it comes to criticizing players . If Andy Colgan or Paddy O'Rourke were in goals yesterday for the first half and put in a performance like that they would be getting all sorts of verbal abuse on every platform available to meath supporters. Some people who weren't even at the game yesterday jumped to conclusions that Colgan was in goals seeing as the first half was going so bad on kick outs. I suppose what club you are from and the region is a deciding factor for some when it comes to dishing out verbal's.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 27/01/2020 14:15:25 2262902 Link 1 |
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Would tend to agree alright - kick a man when he's down and all that. Also some fact checking wouldn't go amiss. Marcus Brennan isn't 37 this year let alone last year. The_Ripper (Meath) - Posts: 183 - 27/01/2020 14:50:53 2262915 Link 0 |
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I see you keep bringing it back to regions and clubs. This is not the case and particularly for myself, the verbals dished at Colgan were on the back of some terrible performances at key times in the key games last year. Not going to argue he is a better option than Yorke but I would suggest you look back at the last 20 minutes of the Donegal/Mayo super 8s games if you are unsure why Colgan gets some criticism on here. Just because you are the best of a bad lot does not mean you are excused from criticism. I would personally have given Harry a better chance during the o byrne cup but given his age/experience with football it is probably not appropriate to throw him in to league now.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 27/01/2020 14:53:30 2262916 Link 1 |