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Replying To breffnibluewhite: "its a problem that has not been addressed we scored the lowest amount of goals of all the teams in the league last year and us playing in division 4 so management must be happy with us taking the point option. i think we only scored one or two all together i think even london scored 8." Conversely if they'd taken their points they might not currently be 2nd from bottom of Div4 Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 22/02/2023 11:36:49 2459740 Link
Down and Westmeath have 5/6 goals scored and they 2 points behind us. The objective is to get out of div3 whatever way possible. And we seem to be going the right direction. Winning breeds confidence and the goals will come with confidence., I wouldn't be too worried about the lack of goals. 10/12 points will get us promotion and anything else is a bonus. We are well capable of beating Armagh in the quarters at home and shouldn't fear Down or Donegal after that either. Ulster final place and promotion would be a good year. And it's possible. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 22/02/2023 13:55:41 2459770 Link
Replying To Breffni1969: "Down and Westmeath have 5/6 goals scored and they 2 points behind us. The objective is to get out of div3 whatever way possible. And we seem to be going the right direction. Winning breeds confidence and the goals will come with confidence., I wouldn't be too worried about the lack of goals. 10/12 points will get us promotion and anything else is a bonus. We are well capable of beating Armagh in the quarters at home and shouldn't fear Down or Donegal after that either. Ulster final place and promotion would be a good year. And it's possible." That's it alright. Would I like more goals? Sure. But we're unbeaten, beat a fellow promotion favourite away, put 2 other teams to the sword, and are otherwise scoring freely. We've little to be complaining about if this is an issue. Hopefully the goals will come though Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 22/02/2023 15:35:49 2459789 Link
Down and Westmeath are under new managers finding their feet. I think Cavan are more settled and should have a more consistent way of scoring goals. Rory Gallagher even spoke about Derry wanting to score goals to get to another level. Every game they play look to create goal chances. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2949 - 22/02/2023 15:50:06 2459795 Link
Replying To Breffni1969: "Down and Westmeath have 5/6 goals scored and they 2 points behind us. The objective is to get out of div3 whatever way possible. And we seem to be going the right direction. Winning breeds confidence and the goals will come with confidence., I wouldn't be too worried about the lack of goals. 10/12 points will get us promotion and anything else is a bonus. We are well capable of beating Armagh in the quarters at home and shouldn't fear Down or Donegal after that either. Ulster final place and promotion would be a good year. And it's possible." Even though we have a very good record v Armagh the fact that they have a preliminary round gimme v Antrim reduces our chances big time… I would fancy us a lot more if we had got them in the preliminary round but let's see…. For me getting out of Division 3 is much more important ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 22/02/2023 17:39:01 2459807 Link
Replying To Breffni40: "Conversely if they'd taken their points they might not currently be 2nd from bottom of Div4" you are missing my point Cavan dont go after goals even against poor opposition and keep taking the point option so players stop making the extra run that might lead to a goal as they already know that the ball will be put over the bar and long term this leads to very few goal oportunities being created and a small percentage of those created scored this leads to our downfall against better opposition in tighter matches and is why we can never beat tyrone for example. breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 519 - 22/02/2023 21:09:34 2459821 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Even though we have a very good record v Armagh the fact that they have a preliminary round gimme v Antrim reduces our chances big time… I would fancy us a lot more if we had got them in the preliminary round but let's see…. For me getting out of Division 3 is much more important" I feel the preliminary is more of a hinderance as they're only a week between it and the Cavan game . So that don't leave much recovery time. With the possibility of a league final for us it leaves 2 weeks break plus its competitive football right up to the championship. Normally a preliminary would be an advantage but with this rushed season I don't see that. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 23/02/2023 15:26:20 2459905 Link
Replying To Breffni1969: "I feel the preliminary is more of a hinderance as they're only a week between it and the Cavan game . So that don't leave much recovery time. With the possibility of a league final for us it leaves 2 weeks break plus its competitive football right up to the championship. Normally a preliminary would be an advantage but with this rushed season I don't see that." I was more thinking of catching Armagh on the hop.. A championship game a week before they play us gives them the edge in my view…. As for a league Final , I certainly hope we are in it but it never compares to the intensity of championship football… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 23/02/2023 19:49:18 2459935 Link
How we feeling for Offaly folks? Think we're back to a proper test since Westmeath after the last 2 were practically training games after 25 minutes. We need to be in the right place, and be ready for the step up. Offaly have been decent, even though falling away against Westmeath at the end. Hopefully our fitness which has been good will keep us at them and have us in front by the end. It'll be good to get a test, Tullamore is a nice field to get to, and I see us winning by 2 to 3 hopefully with good away support. As mentioned up above, would like to see some more goals, and it's the type of game where they'll make a huge difference. We need a replacement for Oisin Brady to take frees (I'd imagine that's Lynch), and hoping Carolan and McVeety are fine after those knocks. I haven't heard word that they're out injured or that. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 24/02/2023 10:07:40 2459958 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I was more thinking of catching Armagh on the hop.. A championship game a week before they play us gives them the edge in my view…. As for a league Final , I certainly hope we are in it but it never compares to the intensity of championship football…" Armagh seem to have no idea how to judge Ulster, as seen by the last 8 or so years with McGeeney. You could well be right, but history would say to me that they might be too fond of themselves by then. They could either look after themselves, get past Antrim, and temper expectations for a week later, or they could win, start celebrating and think they've a stroll to the final. I think i know what way they will go Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 24/02/2023 10:12:44 2459960 Link
Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Armagh seem to have no idea how to judge Ulster, as seen by the last 8 or so years with McGeeney. You could well be right, but history would say to me that they might be too fond of themselves by then. They could either look after themselves, get past Antrim, and temper expectations for a week later, or they could win, start celebrating and think they've a stroll to the final. I think i know what way they will go" Well I present form they lay down big time against an average Roscommon team last Sunday. As per usual they will bring plenty of off the ball stuff with them. They experts at that when things are not going their way. We will be well up for them above any other team Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 24/02/2023 10:59:27 2459973 Link
Replying To breffnibluewhite: "its a problem that has not been addressed we scored the lowest amount of goals of all the teams in the league last year and us playing in division 4 so management must be happy with us taking the point option. i think we only scored one or two all together i think even london scored 8." Cavan scored 8 goals in the league last year. 3 against Waterford, 1 V London, Tipp and Sligo and 2 in the final v Tipp. Only 7 teams in the league scored more goals. In terms of goals per game, we were 11th out of 32 Cavan_Ned (Cavan) - Posts: 95 - 24/02/2023 16:25:35 2460033 Link
Replying To Cavan_Ned: "Cavan scored 8 goals in the league last year. 3 against Waterford, 1 V London, Tipp and Sligo and 2 in the final v Tipp. Only 7 teams in the league scored more goals. In terms of goals per game, we were 11th out of 32" Don't be spoiling their rants with facts. Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 24/02/2023 20:10:18 2460063 Link
Replying To Cavan_Ned: "Cavan scored 8 goals in the league last year. 3 against Waterford, 1 V London, Tipp and Sligo and 2 in the final v Tipp. Only 7 teams in the league scored more goals. In terms of goals per game, we were 11th out of 32" If we couldn't get 8 goals in 7 basement Div 4 games then we might as well give up altogether…!! A paltry return in all fairness ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 25/02/2023 14:44:24 2460112 Link
Are we still talking about Division 4 from last year? Lads, move on Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 25/02/2023 15:12:12 2460115 Link
Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Are we still talking about Division 4 from last year? Lads, move on" We are talking about our lack of goals and how it is sure to impact on us in matches against strong opponents….meaning 8 goals v Div 4 opposition is a pretty poor return…simple ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 25/02/2023 17:47:07 2460126 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "We are talking about our lack of goals and how it is sure to impact on us in matches against strong opponents….meaning 8 goals v Div 4 opposition is a pretty poor return…simple" Division 4 was for getting out of. And we did. Whether we scored 8 goals, or 40. It was lose lose no matter what you did. You can only look at what we're doing now, and we are creating the chances but took the points in games long over as we managed them well. We need to leave it behind us and look up, not behind. We look far better this year so far Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 25/02/2023 18:04:34 2460129 Link
Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Division 4 was for getting out of. And we did. Whether we scored 8 goals, or 40. It was lose lose no matter what you did. You can only look at what we're doing now, and we are creating the chances but took the points in games long over as we managed them well. We need to leave it behind us and look up, not behind. We look far better this year so far" I agree Loughduff but surely even you can see our lack of goals as been a problem… We will be tested tomorrow… I haven't seen any huge improvement on last year yet… Tipp and Longford were woefully poor and getting Westmeath the first day out helped massively… Tomorrow will be a better test ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 25/02/2023 18:36:24 2460131 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I agree Loughduff but surely even you can see our lack of goals as been a problem… We will be tested tomorrow… I haven't seen any huge improvement on last year yet… Tipp and Longford were woefully poor and getting Westmeath the first day out helped massively… Tomorrow will be a better test" I'd be worried if we weren't creating chances. But we are. 2 goals in 3 looks poor, but we easily left behind 3 or 4 by taking the points (Kerry just did do for their final point just there too). I'm OK with that. When we need to take them, we I'm hoping we will. We do need to turn into a goals team, not disagreeing there. Lynch hopefully makes a difference if he starts tomorrow and can add to this. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 25/02/2023 19:31:29 2460135 Link
Team named. No bench on it, just a starting 15. Only change is Marty in for Oisin Brady. Might expect a few changes to that though Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 25/02/2023 20:17:21 2460145 Link

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