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The reason I would like to see him in midfield is because we haven't got a midfield…. We might get away with Clarke at fullback as he contributes nothing out the field…. If we don't deliver the ball quickly into our forwards we are wasting our time… Have we not seen enough of this garbage for the last few years….bore anyone to tears
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 09/05/2023 16:55:46 2477089 Link 0 |
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Then pick 2 midfielders there. I'd go with James Smith and Conor Brady. Leave Faulkner where he is. Play Clarke at centre back or drop him. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5195 - 09/05/2023 20:52:36 2477145 Link 0 |
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James Smith was non existent against Armagh but I guess we could get away with him against weaker opponents… If McVitty is fit he should be played centre back…, I think Clarke is struggling big time and if we did manage to get back to Croke park this year he could be badly found out…There is not too much quality in the Taltainn Cup and if we can't win it this time it will show how far we have gone back under this management set up…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 10/05/2023 10:21:07 2477218 Link 0 |
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Remind us again how far previous managers got us in the Ulster Championship having played in Division one or Division two down the years.
cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 11/05/2023 10:25:58 2477511 Link 0 |
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He was like the cow standing on the hare in 2020… the lead up to the final was pure luck hence Donegal took their eye of the ball and paid the price thank goodness.. Anybody who thinks playing in Div 3/4 makes no difference come Championship time needs their heads examined… He is the only manager in our history to deliver us Division 4 football but many previous managers got us to Ulster Finals as he did… But bringing us to basement football is an unwanted achievement he has to himself…. fact.
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 11/05/2023 13:25:20 2477588 Link 0 |
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Lads sniping about the past won't improve things. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 11/05/2023 15:04:02 2477640 Link 0 |
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if management dont let the team go out and play football in the tailteann cup regardless of the results they should get the road asap. if they set up in thier normal cagey defensive way with lateral and back ward passing which is destroying football as a spectacle they should get the sack the sicking thing about the Armagh game was not getting beaten but not having a go at them handing them the initiative early on at least in the previous year we had a real go at Donegal. breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 479 - 11/05/2023 15:07:24 2477642 Link 0 |
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Clarke shouldn't be near anywhere near a county setup - an average club player !!
flukey (Cavan) - Posts: 30 - 11/05/2023 16:11:43 2477673 Link 0 |
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Should have got the road after the Wicklow debacle in Navan a couple of years ago…. County football is ruined as a spectacle because of the coaching and management set ups similar to our own… Negative no risk football is the whole rage now as it involves lazy coaching… Anyone could set up a team to all fall back in defence and then just hand pass the ball around when possession is regained… It must be a very boring game to play because it sure is a boring game to watch….hence the dwindling attendance figures and the morgue like atmosphere during games… Will this management set up change their ways..? I doubt they have the capabilities to do that..
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 11/05/2023 16:50:29 2477692 Link 0 |
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Tailteann Cup. Devers (Cavan) - Posts: 11 - 11/05/2023 19:06:58 2477729 Link 0 |
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Agree with you there. And is more boring when that type of football is played by teams in the lower divisions. Let players play football on their instincts. Let them read the game as it's unfolding . Far too many silly instructions given out from the sidelines these days. Yes if a player is getting a roasting it's up to management to spot it quickly and adjust. But it's the same old story time and time again. If things aren't going right take off the corner forward. Lazy coaching really . Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 12/05/2023 09:54:48 2477782 Link 0 |
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Cavan are hot favourites at 2/1 with the bookies… Meath and Down are next at around 5/1… We must be favourites because of been in the final last year but 2/1 is very skinny….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 12/05/2023 10:11:21 2477787 Link 0 |
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Did you mean Limerick?
armaghfan02 (Armagh) - Posts: 39 - 12/05/2023 11:32:10 2477815 Link 0 |
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No Mcveety tomorrow! Must have been injured all along. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 12/05/2023 14:08:32 2477874 Link 0 |
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We got to two back to back Ulster Finals since the 60s under Graham, we wont our first Ulster Final in 30 years under Graham. Now, answer the question and remind us all how far previous managers got us whilst playing Div 1/2 football. Hyland had the pick of successive Ulster u21 final winners and he could barely scrape a championship win, so be careful what you wish for. Graham has worked wonders with the players he had. Regardless of what division Cavan play in, the Tailteann Cup is at their level, had they got to an Ulster Final, we wouldn't have lasted that long in the All Ireland series so the sooner people realise that Cavan Football's level will always be Div 2/3, the less upset they'll be when we dont do well. cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 12/05/2023 16:43:23 2477935 Link 1 |
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The players were in there peak under Mickey Graham 24 to 28. Your making out that he was working off a very weak panel which isn't the case. Thomas Galligan wasn't around in the Hyland era. In Paddy Lynch Cavan have potentially an excellent forward. Cavan didn't have top forwards over the last 10 years.
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 13/05/2023 10:05:58 2478002 Link 0 |
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Any potential forward was played as a defender. Martin Reilly, Niall Murray, McVitty, Gerard Smith. To name but a few. You won't have forwards unless you play them as forwards and when Hyland was there we didn't use forwards. Why do you think Martin Dunne left in his prime? Because he was asked to track back to his own 45m line. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 13/05/2023 11:52:20 2478026 Link 0 |
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None of those played as inside forwards for Cavan bar McVeety.. Half backs and half forwards interchange. Brian Howard for Dublin an example. Martin Reilly played very little as a back. Martin Dunne wasn't able to win his own ball.played his best as a foil with Eugene Keating. Barry Reilly from those u21 teams was the best forward but couldn't commit FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 13/05/2023 12:38:41 2478041 Link 0 |
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The type of football Cavan played at U-21 to win 4 Ulster titles in a row was woeful and I said to lads at the time that it would eventually lead to Cavan sinking to the bottom because they were developing no forwards with that set up…: Tyrone who lost 2 of those games but got forward's from those teams that propelled them to senior glory… We got nothing and I doubt anyone apart from the players even remember who won those Ulsters U21 titles… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 13/05/2023 13:33:20 2478051 Link 0 |
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Every play I mentioned was capable of playing as a forward . Yet successive managers decided these lads would make better backs. That's fine if you have abundance of forwards which we hadn't . I Remember Seanie Johnston after he came back playing against Roscommon in Croke Park out around the middle of the field , kicking balls in to where he should have been himself . Inside. We played a dire negative style for years. It's no wonder players weren't interested, or left the panel. Look at teams like Down, now playing the same S@@te as we played in those years. It's no wonder they haven't won an Ulster for nearly 30 years. Play with a bit of adventure, purpose, they are not robots. Players might show some interest then. Glorified Basketball players is how I'd sum up most nowadays. And I don't mean just Cavan. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 13/05/2023 15:01:24 2478064 Link 1 |