And Con Magees (Glenravel) - after a 1798 United Irishman.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 26/10/2015 16:05:54    1801988

Thanks

Steelfixer (USA) - Posts: 41 - 26/10/2015 16:43:12    1802003

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Hard to beat Ramor United & Cootehill Celtic in Cavan.

don't forget Laragh United and Lacken Celtic also. :)

minor final was contested between Laragh United and Ramour United.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 26/10/2015 21:58:18    1802100

Thanks for the feedback.
Some interesting names up and down the country. Some i hadnt heard before, thats for sure.

But I'm probably still not getting the answer i came looking for.
I suppose i may not have made it perfectly clear in my original post, but the main question i wanted answered from it was 'why the difference from county to county'?
Why do all Tyrone and Monaghan clubs have the name of a historical figure after their placename, yet (most) clubs in Offaly or Laois or Galway, etc. do not?
Why are clubs in Louth not named after their village or area?
Maybe its a question none of you can answer, i dont know. Hopefully someone there can.

OffalyBigBall (Offaly) - Posts: 635 - 27/10/2015 10:01:51    1802127

One reason I can think of, apart from patriotism at the time for naming clubs Pearses, Sarsfields, Gaels etc, would be that a large number of clubs sprung up in the same areas, so they had to differentiate, they couldn't all be called after the town or village.

Some clubs folded and died, others amalgamated and you were left with one club, a town name with an 'Gaels' at the end(or not).

Maybe all these clubs in Offaly(and other places) with just town names are old amalgamtions, or were the dominant club and outlasted all the other rural clubs beside them. I'm sure most clubs have written history at this point.

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 27/10/2015 10:25:12    1802136

Given it's proud Republican history and strong resistance to British invasion/misrule, Armagh has quite a number of clubs named after individuals and organisations who led the fight:

Annaghmore Pearse's
An Port Mór O'Neill's
Armagh Pearse Óg
Ballyhegan Davitt's
Camlough Shane O'Neill's
Clady Seán South
Clonmore Robert Emmet's
Collegeland O'Rahilly's
Derrymacash Wolfe Tone's
Dorsey Emmet's
Corringshego Thomas Davis
Highmoss Sarsfield's
Keady Michael Dwyer's
Lurgan Clan na Gael
Lurgan Seán Tracey's
Madden Rapparee's
Maghery Seán MacDiarmada
Middletown Eoghan Rua
Mullabrack O'Donovan Rossa
Poyntzpass Redmond O'Hanlon's
Tullysaran O'Connell's

Also a number of clubs named after saints, given our county city's status as ecclesiastical capital of Ireland this is no surprise, with St Patrick featuring prominently:
Carrickcruppen St Patrick's
Cullyhanna St Patrick's
Derrynoose St Mochua's
Dromintee St Patrick's
Granemore St Mary's
Grange St Colmcille's
Killean St Michael's
Killeavy St Moninne's
Lurgan St Paul's
Lurgan St Peter's
Newtownhamilton St Michael's
Portadown St Malachy's
Whitecross St Killian's

A few clubs are named commemorating Irish mythology and culture:
Armagh Cúchulainn's
Armagh Harps
Ballymacnab Round Towers
Camlough Craobh Rua
Craigavon Éire Óg
Darkley Phelim Brady's
Forkhill Peadar Ó'Doirnín
Keady Lámh Dhearg
Lurgan Clann Éireann
Mullaghbawn Cúchulainn's
Middletown Na Fianna
Portadown Tír na nÓg
Silverbridge Harps

The only exceptions I can find for the above three categories are Crossmaglen Rangers, Culloville Blues; and Lissummon, who are seemingly the only club in the county that is known by its place name and nothing else. It is interesting that there is no set protocol for referring to clubs - some are known exclusively by their placename, others are interchangeable while some are known strictly by their club name.

northarmaghgael (Armagh) - Posts: 40 - 27/10/2015 11:13:00    1802167

Northarmaghgael - similar story in Antrim with names. Beyond the ones already mentioned which are named after historical people the majority of the rest are named after Saints:

All Saints (Ballymena)
St Brigids (Cloughmills)
St Comgalls (Antrim town)
St Endas (Glengormley)
St Ergnats (Moneyglass)
St James (Aldergrove)
St Joseph's (Glenavy)
St Mary's (Rasharkin)
St Mary's (Ahoghill)
St Patricks (Lisburn)

In Belfast:
St Agnes
St Brigids
St Galls
St Johns
St Malachys
St Paul's
St Teresa's

Clubs with other names:
Ardoyne Kickhams
Clooney Gaels
Cuchullains (Dunloy)
Éire Óg
Erin's Own (Cargin)
Glen Rovers (Armoy)
Kickhams Creggan
Lámh Dhearg (Hannastown)
Loughgiel Shamrocks
McQuillans Ballycastle
Cardinal O'Donnells
Oisins (Glenariffe)
Ruairí Óg (Cushendall)
Tír

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 27/10/2015 12:00:38    1802203

Tír Na nÓg (Randalstown)
Carey Faughs

In fact the only club I can think of who have no additional or other name are Gort na Mona in Belfast.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 27/10/2015 12:02:50    1802206

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The clubs in Belfast and Antrim in general who would be named after significant people (varying levels of significance) in history are:

Belfast
Sarsfields - aka the Paddies
O'Donovan Rossa
John Mitchels
Michael Davitts
Patrick Pearses

Rest of Antrim
Shane Ui Neill (Glenarm)
Roger Casements (Portglenone)
Robert Emmets (Cushendun)

Also Sean MacDiarmada in Belfast steelfixer who recently became extinct

Is there not or was there not also an O'Donnells.

Offside rule - another one for your list would be Sean Stinsons

geoff (Tyrone) - Posts: 377 - 27/10/2015 13:40:15    1802257

There was an o'connells many moons ago Geoff, O'Donnells are listed above by offside

Gael Uladh and Dwyers are 2 other Belfast clubs to have become extinct, though Dwyers have a social club still going on Grosvenor road beside the RVH, they tried to start the a team a few years ago but it disappeared again.

Sean Stinsons are an amalgamation between Portglenone and Ahoghill (offside can correct me) at underage level, they go their own way at adult level

Quite a few underage amalgamation teams have now cropped up in Antrim recently, particularly in Belfast

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 27/10/2015 14:22:46    1802279

In Laois it's mostly just a simple placename. Portlaoise, Portarlington, Ballylinan etc.

The exceptions are O'Dempseys from Killenard called after a local ancient clan and St Josephs after the parish saint.

A few other clubs have saints names tacked on to their placename but they'd be known by their placename - Colt, Abbeyleix, Mountrath and Clonaslee are the ones I know.

CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 27/10/2015 15:11:16    1802318

Yes you are correct bumper - Sean Stinsons are a Casements Portglenone/St Mary's Ahoghill amalgamation up to Minor level. Other amalgamations at underage are:

Belfast Saffrons (Davitts and St Teresa's -play Minor)
Clan na Gael (St Patricks Lisburn/St Agnes/Éire Óg at minor -,minus Aggies at U21)
Setanta - not sure which Belfast clubs make up this one. Back to you bumper...
Naomh Pádraig - Carey Faughs/Glen Rovers/Emmets (Hurling)

Also forgot St Mary's Aghagallon in previous list of clubs.

Few other extinct clubs to add to the list:
James Stephens
Seagan An Diomais
Gaelhil Uladh
Otlamh Fodhla
O'Neill Crowleys

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 27/10/2015 15:23:12    1802333

Offside,

Setanta is sarsfields and st pauls I believe and possibly st teresas as I think its a hurling only club.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 27/10/2015 15:43:46    1802348

Very interesting thread.

An answer to this would be that counties where there is strong republican and independance opinions, the clubs have been named after republican figure heads. This is also the same with the reason for Saint names used. For example, a lot of ulster (and particularly the 6 counties) have this in the club names, as stated by previous contributors to thiis thread.

Rural counties have traditionally and predominately simply used the town land or village as there club names. Examples are Offaly, Galway, Mayo, Westmeath etc. Exceptions occur where amalagmations have occured.

Counties where there is large urban areas, as well as rural regions, such as Limerick and Waterford have a mixture of simply town lands names and saints/figure heads depending on their urban/rural divide. Rural as stated above, and saints/figure heads in more populated areas.

With this all said, the parish rule is a defining rule of thumb in the naming of the club. The counties of higher population generally have saints (after the local saint) or figure heads (after a local/republican figure head) in their title.

David (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 27/10/2015 22:02:46    1802505

As above Laois is mostly placenames
Some saints associated with clubs and bigger amalgamations.
The Harps - Durrow, Cullohill, Cannonswood
St Josephs - Ballyadams, The Swan, Wolfhill
Slieve Bloom - outside Mountrath
O'Dempseys - Killenard
St. Fintans Colt - Raheen
St. Fintans Mountrath
St. Lazerians Abbeyleix
St. Manmans Clonaslee

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 28/10/2015 10:34:43    1802535

Offaly is mostly the name of the town or village or area.
Clodiagh Gaels is a new club, an amalgamation and called after a local river.
Shamrocks is outside Tullamore, Rahan and Mucklagh.
St Rynaghs is over Banagher/Cloghan direction.
Seir Kieran is Clareen and Erin Rovers is Pullough.
Brosna Gaels is a few football clubs coming together for hurling
There's probably a couple more but I'm not an Offaly man!

Heraf (Laois) - Posts: 316 - 28/10/2015 13:36:51    1802613

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Why are clubs in Louth not named after their village or area?
Maybe its a question none of you can answer, i dont know. Hopefully someone there can.

As far as I know there are 38 football clubs and 5 hurling clubs in Louth. One of these club's plays both: St Fechins.

Here is a list of clubs that are named after places: Annaghminnan Rovers, Dowdallshill (Dundalk), Dundalk Gaels, Dundalk Young Irelands, Hunterstown Rovers, Kilkerley Emmets, Knockbridge, Stabannon Parnells, Ardee St Marys and Newtown Blues (Drogheda).

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 28/10/2015 15:52:38    1802660

In Derry a lot are named after significant people then the place they are from, plus a good few also take Saints names;

People;
John Mitchells Claudy
John Mitchells Glenullin
Michael Davitts Swatragh
Steelstown Brian Ogs - only named Brian Ogs recently after one of their underage players unfortunately passed away.
Eoghan Rua Coleraine
Ballerin Sarsfields
Kevin Lynches - Dungiven Hurling
Robert Emmetts Slaughtneil
Oliver Plunketts Greenlough
Padraig Pearses Kilrea
Sean Dolans
O Donovan Rossa Magherafelt

Saints;
St Malachys Castledawson
St Marys Ardmore
St Aidans Magilligan
St Marys Banagher
St Canices - Dungiven football
St Treas Ballymaguigan

Others;
Ballinderry Shamrocks
The Loup
Erins Own Lavey
Glen Maghera

I think il stop there!

bosch (Derry) - Posts: 873 - 28/10/2015 17:09:18    1802693

Do Mattock not also play hurling?

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 28/10/2015 17:10:13    1802694

M the D they sure do. MR will kill me for forgetting them. Sorry typo on my behalf.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 28/10/2015 17:57:22    1802708