Honest question to lads like Hill, Culann and a few others. And I am asking this honestly and not to start an arguement.

Do some of ye think GAA should get preferential treatment in the media and society as a whole.

I get the feeling some people, GAA people, have a sense of entitlement and an equal sense of righteousness when it comes to the GAA

They think RTE should be duty bound to show GAA as constantly as possible, even if it means foresaking ratings etc etc, they think GAA should almost be compulsory for us all as such.

They think that if you dont like GAA and you prefer rugby or soccer, your less of an Irishman than they....

Lads, can I ask, is this true, and if so, would you admit it and defend it?

Thanks boys, as i said, I am not having a go, I merely want to know how you defend that attittude.

Thanks

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 09/08/2013 15:35:38    1457629

where have anybody ever said that.
ratings would show gaa is most watched sport in ireland.
attendances would show gaa is most followed sport in ireland.
in every other country in the world the main sport in that country gets the most media attention its common sense.
thats the problem i have with ireland.
rte six one news last night didnt give any gaa news the week of an all ireland hurling semi final that will have an attendance of between 50-60 thousand do you honestly think that is fair?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 09/08/2013 15:45:08    1457648

Hill i wasnt putting words in your mouth my friend, i am only asking a question.
Do you believe that GAA is more popular than soccer with the general public in Ireland?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 09/08/2013 15:53:46    1457667

Well I would like for the tv license im paying to go towards RTE coverng League games instead of soccer,rugby.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 09/08/2013 15:58:35    1457676

why?people are entitled to choose their sports themselves.hurling is marginally my number 1 game over football but once wexford are playing,be it hurling/football/handball/camogie,i shout and cheer for them all.
once the gaa season is over,i switch to english football and rugby for my winter fix of sport.but i love all sports,and think if there is an interest in all sports,they should all be covered.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 09/08/2013 16:01:57    1457683

09/08/2013 15:58:35
lilywhitemagic
Well I would like for the tv license im paying to go towards RTE coverng League games instead of soccer,rugby. what soccer/rugby do you think should not be shown with hurling/football national league games in their place?
RTE do not have the right to show league games as other stations have paid for the right to. RTE cant show games they don't have the rights to show

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/08/2013 16:05:00    1457688

with the songs sang on The Hill, soccer clearly rules in Dublin anyway ;-)

Topa_the_left (Antrim) - Posts: 250 - 09/08/2013 16:05:34    1457689

Liamwalkinstown
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Hill i wasnt putting words in your mouth my friend, i am only asking a question.
Do you believe that GAA is more popular than soccer with the general public in Ireland?

obviously,you go to any part of ireland and see how a gaa club takes pride of place in that town.
(cavan,donegal,limerick) have all caputred the imagination of their countys in recent runs.
dublin footballers have been the best supported sports team in ireland since 2000-2013.
this all happens on the back of very little advertising from the gaa and a media that adopts its policys from britian.
if the media was fair and was irish run then surely from a business sense you would take all this into account and say that our main target area with sport should be the gaa

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 09/08/2013 16:07:41    1457691

I think yiv been at the ovaltine agin liam???

what would ya rather - that we sit around watchin the ashes???

sure of course it should get preferential treatment, its our no 1 sporting organisation!

personally id ban soccer from the telly as its muck. not a bad game for low class degenerates to play mind as it stops them goin on the rob for 90 minits.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 09/08/2013 16:12:32    1457696

I would like RTE to treat the GAA fairly. Most sports bulletins give minimal or no coverage to GAA. This at a time of year when they should take centre stage. We are getting regular updates on the Ashes Series interviews with the new Leinster Rugby manager which is fine but if there is time to do that then surely there is time for GAA. I have noticed Saturday Sport devotes very little time to GAA. But when Heino cup and Rabo matches are on. The Saturday Sports prog is given over exclusively to rugby. So I don't want preferential treatment given to GAA just parity of esteem.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 09/08/2013 16:27:30    1457714

There was a slightly similar discussion over on the Elevenaside forum back in June when it was announced that RTE was axing Premier Soccer Saturday.

Here's two links on what the most watched sports programmes in Ireland were last year;

19 of the 20 most-watched sports programmes in Ireland in 2012 were on RTÉ

The Top 20 sports programmes watched by Men 15+ in 2012

19 of the 20 most watched sports programmes in Ireland last year were on RTE, with BBC's coverage of the Olympic closing ceremony being the odd one out.

Looking at the second set of figures for RTE alone though it looks like football is the most watched sport in Ireland.

8 of the top 20 were football matches, while 7 were GAA matches (3 football and 4 hurling). None of the provincial finals appear on the list while 4 football matches not involving Ireland do.

Now fair enough there might be a case for saying that last year was a bit of an anomaly for viewing figures due to our qualification for the Euro's, but of the 8 football matches in the top 20, Ireland only featured in half of them. More people watched the Spain - Italy final than the replay of the hurling final which is a bit of a surprise.

I'd much prefer it if RTE tried to improve the standard of their GAA coverage instead of increasing the amount of actual coverage. Hopefully if TV3 and TG4 continue to get more rights to games it'll mean the standard across the board will improve due to the extra competition.

The reason the likes of Sky promote the Premiership so much is because they have a massive stake in it, they part with a huge amount of money for the rights to it so it's obviously in their best interest to promote it as much as they can in an attempt to sell more subscriptions and make their money back. Likewise if they lower their coverage or drop their standards it's fair to suggest that people will stop subscribing to Sky and choose an alternative method of viewing matches.

RTE though are in no danger of losing their subscriptions (which is effectively the tv license), and they have limited competition from TV3 for championship matches and don't bother with the league or clubs. As far as the GAA is concerned RTE will get preferential treatment regardless of the standard of their coverage or the amount of games they show. Unfortunately for some, RTE are better off showing the games / sports that will attract the most viewers, and in a lot of cases that'll mean more coverage for the Premiership than the GAA, from a business point of view it makes sense.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 09/08/2013 17:23:00    1457763

RTE gets a licence fee to promote our Irish culture among other things, so yes the GAA should get better coverage. I really get annoyed when I am told to get the results on RTE.ie, after I hear about a motor car race, spanish and english soccer from our sports dept on the 6 O'Clock news.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 09/08/2013 17:26:36    1457769

Who thinks RTE should bring back sports stadium? Can ye remember it lads? The final count down playing in the background as Michael lester would anounce what was comin up on the show, and the mother would have the dinner on the table at half one, great days :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 09/08/2013 17:37:46    1457775

09/08/2013 16:07:41
hill16no1man
obviously,you go to any part of ireland and see how a gaa club takes pride of place in that town.
(cavan,donegal,limerick) have all caputred the imagination of their countys in recent runs.
dublin footballers have been the best supported sports team in ireland since 2000-2013.
this all happens on the back of very little advertising from the gaa and a media that adopts its policys from britian.
if the media was fair and was irish run then surely from a business sense you would take all this into account and say that our main target area with sport should be the gaa
Media is fair and is irish run. GAA gets loads of coverage across several channels. What else do you want media to do?
What should be done to make the media fair???

09/08/2013 16:27:30
mod
I would like RTE to treat the GAA fairly. Most sports bulletins give minimal or no coverage to GAA. This at a time of year when they should take centre stage. We are getting regular updates on the Ashes Series interviews with the new Leinster Rugby manager which is fine but if there is time to do that then surely there is time for GAA. I have noticed Saturday Sport devotes very little time to GAA. But when Heino cup and Rabo matches are on. The Saturday Sports prog is given over exclusively to rugby. So I don't want preferential treatment given to GAA just parity of esteem
RTE does treat the GAA fairly. Most sports bulletins especially in late spring, summer and early autumn have loads of coverage on inter county and club hurling/football games where relevant.
Saturday Sport has plenty of time for GAA. Staff at most big games providing coverage.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/08/2013 17:45:42    1457780

KingdomBoy1
County: Kerry
Who thinks RTE should bring back sports stadium? Can ye remember it lads? The final count down playing in the background as Michael lester would anounce what was comin up on the show, and the mother would have the dinner on the table at half one, great days :-)

Brendan O Reilly is always the man I associate with Sports Stadium

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 09/08/2013 18:12:16    1457798

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
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09/08/2013 16:07:41
hill16no1man
obviously,you go to any part of ireland and see how a gaa club takes pride of place in that town.
(cavan,donegal,limerick) have all caputred the imagination of their countys in recent runs.
dublin footballers have been the best supported sports team in ireland since 2000-2013.
this all happens on the back of very little advertising from the gaa and a media that adopts its policys from britian.
if the media was fair and was irish run then surely from a business sense you would take all this into account and say that our main target area with sport should be the gaa

Media is fair and is irish run. GAA gets loads of coverage across several channels. What else do you want media to do?
What should be done to make the media fair???

the irish media is mostly extracts of british outlets.
the irish tv stations go with everything that is on in uk and usa,just look at rte line up most nights of the week.
it will be made up of british soaps and american sitcoms.
i turned on rte news last night and they never gave any gaa news at all,this only 3 days before an all ireland semi final that will attract the largest sporting attendance on the island and the largest sporting viewing figures on the island this week.
surely if the station was fair it would be giving you news on this match.
yet i hear about a soccer friendly involving a team from england or a rugby coach taking a backs coach role with a team not playing until september,also on the news was the parolympics team for 2016 yes 2016 3 years away.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 09/08/2013 18:31:21    1457815

In all honesty I think the GAA gets a fair crack from RTE & TV3. Yes we can quibble about the quality of some of it, but when you look at the number of live games, Sunday Game, Championship Matters, etc etc then GAA folk are well catered for especially during the championship season.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 09/08/2013 18:36:11    1457823

MuckrossHead
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In all honesty I think the GAA gets a fair crack from RTE & TV3. Yes we can quibble about the quality of some of it, but when you look at the number of live games, Sunday Game, Championship Matters, etc etc then GAA folk are well catered for especially during the championship season.

not on the news brodcasts.no gaa news 3 days before an all ireland semi final,is that fair?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 09/08/2013 18:57:35    1457845

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also on the news was the parolympics team for 2016 yes 2016 3 years away.

To be honest it's about time those guys got a bit of coverage from the national broadcaster, incredible achievements last year in London by the entire team.

Isn't it terrible that the 200m T13 and 800m T37 are being dropped for the 2016 games leaving Smyth and McKillop with no chance to defend two of their titles.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 09/08/2013 19:01:39    1457850

Look we all know who the head of sport at Rugby Teilifis Eireann is and where his allegiances lie so it should be no surprise that GAA is down the list of priorities. I for one don't have a problem with it as, in general, GAA receives enough media coverage. As an eircom League fan I have a bigger problem with RTE's, and by extension, the print media's obsession with English football. We now see idiots here supporting teams whose supporters ripped up Lansdowne Rd not so long ago and would kick a 'Paddy' as son as look at him. 'Irish' is right!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4737 - 09/08/2013 19:28:33    1457864