with more and more players taking supplements of protein and creatine is it a cause for concern??
there are some young fellas taking it that cannot be good for them...
Is it true 2 county minors are ingesting it??

fooligan (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 21/09/2009 22:34:13    432609

I'd be amazed if only 2 of them taking it.

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 21/09/2009 23:13:24    432673

Who are these players?? Are these supplements dangerous??

Winner08 (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 21/09/2009 23:59:21    432723

i think they are encouraged to take it as part of a shake cause it helps their muscles recover quicker after weights/training or games..? Doubt if it's too dangerous if taken properly or else shops like tesco, etc wouldn't be able to sell it freely?

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1732 - 22/09/2009 04:09:47    432796

doesnt seem to be of much benefit now does it?

maco (Meath) - Posts: 357 - 22/09/2009 12:17:12    433004

I have been involved with rugby for a number of years where protein & creatine are used. However, programmes are designed for individual specfic needs. Protein in particular needs to be controlled as it can seriously increase body weight if overconsumed and not ran with a correctly tailored weight programme.

I would be concerned with minors using this product on their own if they have not been advised of it's correct use. Plenty of fluid is required when using protein products as they can cause dehydration and in worst case situations cause kidney problems. About 5 years ago leinster schools rugby found that about 70% of players where widely using protein products which led to information programmes been held to help both players and coaches understand the products.

I have also used both protein and creatine products in the past but to be honest found that a correctly balanced diet gives the same if not better results. These products where originally designed to inmprove professional athletes performance when they reached their optimum performance with their standard diet.

Castleman (Cavan) - Posts: 32 - 22/09/2009 12:39:49    433040

it ruined barons career, it slowed him down, and when a corner back loses his pace he's in trouble

rexbanner10 (Cavan) - Posts: 396 - 22/09/2009 14:19:34    433159

these supplements come in healthy snacks aswell so young lads are tempted to eat them! spuds cabbage and bacon/steak and 2 pints a water are the best things to eat!

joefinch (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 22/09/2009 17:19:44    433379

just eat the correct foods after doing weights and you should be grand...where are footballers not the british and irish lions

cavanboy (Cavan) - Posts: 53 - 22/09/2009 17:51:33    433415

bjasus lads its a bit late in the day to be talking about protein and creainte, next jan n feb talk about it and then d county players and those with an ambition to be on the county team might think about it to supplement there sessions of sauce of a weekend.

rising1916 (Cavan) - Posts: 187 - 22/09/2009 18:02:28    433441

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it ruined barons career, it slowed him down, and when a corner back loses his pace he's in trouble

Indeed it did rex-i was injecting it into my eyeballs near the end!

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 22/09/2009 18:15:30    433453

Don't know their names but i think one is from butlersbridge anyway.
and one may be from Ballyhaise or Cavan Gaels. not quite sure. some rumours of transfers and that.

in my view at that age they should be eating raw steak.. does the job just as well as protein..
and 4 eggs every morning...

fooligan (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 22/09/2009 22:07:20    433743

raw eggs are good for boxers that are fully grown but i still believe in spuds nd on sunday a bit of gravy if they play well! its great motivation whilst gettin in all the vital goodness!

joefinch (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 23/09/2009 21:12:32    434745

why sud cavan players go on creatine, when they have some of the most gifted footballers in country

monkeydude (Cavan) - Posts: 55 - 24/09/2009 11:58:26    435127

If taken correctly, i would strongly recomend it, too many "wee" "handy" footballers, we need strong powerful running players that can break tackles and dish out the hits. However i strongly disagree with "creatine", it is illegal as far as i know. However, protein shakes are just as good and the same results, only not as quickly, however, training must be done while taking these supplements!. I think any good pharmaceutical shop sells the protein shakes. I guarantee you the lads up the north are on them. Without a doubt.

galoping gazele (None) - Posts: 174 - 24/09/2009 17:50:44    435574

Ye i believe protein can be alright if used properly but how is a young lad meant to know how to use it properly and train accordinly with no proper weight programmes readily available from most clubs.. Where can these weight programmes and good protein diets be found..

mclovinxx (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 26/09/2009 00:40:50    436969

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Ye i believe protein can be alright if used properly but how is a young lad meant to know how to use it properly and train accordinly with no proper weight programmes readily available from most clubs.. Where can these weight programmes and good protein diets be found..

Go to local gym and ask any of the fitness instructors they should be able to make you up one no bother after a few tests.

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 27/09/2009 11:07:56    437568

Protein can be useful for recovery when in weights training but really isn't necessary. a good balanced diet is all the nutrition that is necessary. it is also a good tip to drink a glass of milk after a weights session. As for creatine, it works by allowing the muscle to retain water and enlarges it and can allow it to generate more power but it should only be used once you have maxed out in what you are lifting. for instance when you begin a weights programme the weight you can lift will increase gradually but eventually it will stop increasing.this is when creatine should be used.

jonjoeR (Cavan) - Posts: 11 - 27/09/2009 20:45:26    437930

Protein can be useful for recovery when in weights training but really isn't necessary. a good balanced diet is all the nutrition that is necessary. it is also a good tip to drink a glass of milk after a weights session. As for creatine, it works by allowing the muscle to retain water and enlarges it and can allow it to generate more power but it should only be used once you have maxed out in what you are lifting. for instance when you begin a weights programme the weight you can lift will increase gradually but eventually it will stop increasing.this is when creatine should be used.

jonjoeR (Cavan) - Posts: 11 - 27/09/2009 20:45:32    437933