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Replying To Ashrules:  "I agree that there is optimism going forward. It would be setting a low bar to be satisfied with the tailteann cup.

I would not see this as a great year for improvement . We scraped above the drop to Div. 3 and beat weak counties in the tailteann. I am optimistic because I think players are there and better ones. COR took a distinct dislike to clubs bordering Dublin (with reason in fairness) and gave preference to lads from anywhere else, Problem there is that he left out the stronger players in the stronger senior clubs from Cilles, Ratoath, Dunboyne, Ashbourne , Na Fianna, and more, I am sure the lads picked look favourably on COR because they would not be there without him , but I would not see him as the way to a more positive situation overall."
Listen, I wouldn't put it down to "dislike of clubs bordering Dublin"….after all the manager has been associated with two senior clubs and both didn't have any players on the field on Saturday evening. Looks like he headed for the highways and byways as well as almost forgotten places and achieved his immediate goal. Whither it's good enough to mix it up with the big boys or not we will have to wait and see. But if it's not then big boys might assist. Hopefully they haven't taken the hump.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 17/07/2023 22:42:51    2495262

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Replying To MillerX:  "Listen, I wouldn't put it down to "dislike of clubs bordering Dublin"….after all the manager has been associated with two senior clubs and both didn't have any players on the field on Saturday evening. Looks like he headed for the highways and byways as well as almost forgotten places and achieved his immediate goal. Whither it's good enough to mix it up with the big boys or not we will have to wait and see. But if it's not then big boys might assist. Hopefully they haven't taken the hump."
Well he expressed this dislike in the Tommy Tiernan show himself. you are right that the danger is they will be needed next year when Meath play the all Ireland series instead of the tailteann cup, but wont desire to play without a top manager. And it looks like Meath will have to go outside the county.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 549 - 18/07/2023 12:52:46    2495388

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Well he expressed this dislike in the Tommy Tiernan show himself. you are right that the danger is they will be needed next year when Meath play the all Ireland series instead of the tailteann cup, but wont desire to play without a top manager. And it looks like Meath will have to go outside the county."
In some ways, the club championships will be even more interesting now! It will be really interesting to see how the lads involved with the team that won TC perform for their teams. It will also be interesting to see how guys who weren't part of the squad perform too!

Will anyone new jump out I wonder!!

Who are the players that people feel should be in the County squad but aren't? Who should we be looking out for!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 18/07/2023 13:17:09    2495396

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Well he expressed this dislike in the Tommy Tiernan show himself. you are right that the danger is they will be needed next year when Meath play the all Ireland series instead of the tailteann cup, but wont desire to play without a top manager. And it looks like Meath will have to go outside the county."
Are you going to tell us the players that O'Rourke has not picked from the clubs on the Dublin border?

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 584 - 18/07/2023 13:47:51    2495403

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Well he expressed this dislike in the Tommy Tiernan show himself. you are right that the danger is they will be needed next year when Meath play the all Ireland series instead of the tailteann cup, but wont desire to play without a top manager. And it looks like Meath will have to go outside the county."
Going back to the question of Colm leaving out players from certain clubs you mentioned several including Ashbourne . WHO from Ashbourne do you refer to ? i have asked 3 club members and they dont see your point either. Certainly that in my view is one area where he could not be critisized . Everyone that wanted it got a chance.
I think it is never wise to make a sweeping general statement unless it is supported by specifics to be fair. No doubt if Joe Blogs from Timbucktoo in Co Meath shows he is worth a shot. He will get it. I fully accept Colm has areas that may need more attention as things get tougher but for me that is not one of them. No, i think let him at it . He knows what he is doing. I aplaud him for generating what the players describe as an enjoyable learning atmosphere where players are free but must take individual responsibility To me thats just what is needed with a young inexperienced group . Keep it up Colm whilst continuing to improve our lot .

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 18/07/2023 13:59:38    2495409

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Well he expressed this dislike in the Tommy Tiernan show himself. you are right that the danger is they will be needed next year when Meath play the all Ireland series instead of the tailteann cup, but wont desire to play without a top manager. And it looks like Meath will have to go outside the county."
The best players from the clubs you mentioned are on the Meath panel now or have been there before and have been given every chance. Menton also retired. The management team are entitled to pick who they want and don't need to carry players who don't want to be there or aren't fully bought in. Meath did that for long enough and it got them nowhere. Despite what you want to believe, I doubt they are picking players based on where they are located.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 18/07/2023 14:43:19    2495420

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "The best players from the clubs you mentioned are on the Meath panel now or have been there before and have been given every chance. Menton also retired. The management team are entitled to pick who they want and don't need to carry players who don't want to be there or aren't fully bought in. Meath did that for long enough and it got them nowhere. Despite what you want to believe, I doubt they are picking players based on where they are located."
Agreed !

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 18/07/2023 15:03:08    2495429

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Replying To MillerX:  "Listen, I wouldn't put it down to "dislike of clubs bordering Dublin"….after all the manager has been associated with two senior clubs and both didn't have any players on the field on Saturday evening. Looks like he headed for the highways and byways as well as almost forgotten places and achieved his immediate goal. Whither it's good enough to mix it up with the big boys or not we will have to wait and see. But if it's not then big boys might assist. Hopefully they haven't taken the hump."
Complete load of nonsense, I'd say Colm dislikes the Dublin jerseys and flags in border (and some non border towns), just like the Meath people in those towns do. The only players from border clubs that could be on it are Lavin who is abroad and McGill. James McEntee this year showed the door is open for a lad to come back in and I hope McGill is similar. I don't think any St Colmcilles lads are at the level yet, Ashbourne it would only be Menton as of now and he stepped away himself. It was nonsense when people said Andy had anti north Meath bias. And it's nonsense that O'Rourke has an anti east/south Meath bias

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 18/07/2023 15:22:55    2495434

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Complete load of nonsense, I'd say Colm dislikes the Dublin jerseys and flags in border (and some non border towns), just like the Meath people in those towns do. The only players from border clubs that could be on it are Lavin who is abroad and McGill. James McEntee this year showed the door is open for a lad to come back in and I hope McGill is similar. I don't think any St Colmcilles lads are at the level yet, Ashbourne it would only be Menton as of now and he stepped away himself. It was nonsense when people said Andy had anti north Meath bias. And it's nonsense that O'Rourke has an anti east/south Meath bias"
We'll said Leitrim and others, it's one thing that can't be levelled at Colm, or Andy before him. I think they gave everyone the best opportunity they could. I think tbf I was critical in that Andy favoured senior clubs but I understand his viewpoint, whereas Colm used the regional championship well and brought in a few new lads. And that's not knocking Andy, he never had that regional championship in place to evaluate guys from intermediate and junior clubs at a higher level.

People laying that BS at Colms door are the same people who post sweeping generalisations and never give a specific answer. I'd have far more respect for a lad that'll make a point, provide an alternative or suggestion etc and is constructive in their posting. When it's out to these people to provide a response they disappear.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 18/07/2023 16:50:16    2495470

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