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I went to one last year. Was one of the best championship games of the year. Very big crowd also. Also last year two bottom teams came from same group, so it is fair. Maybe if my club was involved I might do some giving off too, but it seemed to work truegael49 (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 11/05/2022 12:56:33 2416480 Link 0 |
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I'd much rather watch a final group game where a game decides which of the 2 go into a relegation semi - rather than a dead rubber group game where both are confirmed for the relegation q final Also last year Simonstown were confirmed to be 3rd/4th after round 2. Had nothing to play for in the last game. It's a ridiculous and needless structure Anmhi364 (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 11/05/2022 13:10:21 2416486 Link 0 |
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No they're not even close to the same thing!! In theory you can have a group where 3 teams win 2 games each and one team loses all 3, yet the team that lost all 3 group games and the team that won 2 (but finished 3rd on score difference) are now in the same relegation scrap. 2 teams qualifying from a group of 4 is a fair system to allow teams a fair chance at winning a championship, punishing a team for finishing 3rd adds no benefit to the competition at all. I don't agree that relegation quarter finals have no bite, as any team in them will be desperate to win in order to not be relegated but they are pointless in the sense that its additional games for the sake of it. If 3rd play 4th in the last round of the group stage but have both lost their first two games then that last group game has no meaning at all, but if only bottom goes down then it means every game has significance throughout the entire championship. And I'm from Ratoath so thankfully it hasn't affected my club so its not a case that I'm trying to look for ways to keep my team up (although this years group can certainly go any way) but in the interest of a good competitive Championship where every game has significance I just don't see the logic in a relegation 1/4 final at all, and I'll guarantee you not a single player would either ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 11/05/2022 13:33:12 2416497 Link 0 |
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"If 3rd play 4th in the last round of the group stage but have both lost their first two games then that last group game has no meaning at all" truegael49 (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 11/05/2022 13:45:48 2416505 Link 0 |
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Totally agree, we finished 3rd on 3 points last year but even if we won the last game and had 4 point we were still in relegation. A team finishing with 3 or 4 points should not be in a relegation battle. Terrible decision by a linesman who has not been seen since cost us last year in round 1. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 11/05/2022 13:48:25 2416507 Link 0 |
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That's your opinion and your entitled to it but as I said, I would wager larger money you won't find a single player at any level who would agree with you, utterly pointless decision with the only obvious benefit of it being more games which means more money from fans paying into it
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 11/05/2022 15:47:21 2416538 Link 0 |
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The Dublin format works well. Top 2 go through, with winner playing runner up in other group. Bottom team goes into relegation. The winners of the 2 first round games play each other and the losers play each other - this means there is less likely to be dead rubber games in round 3. royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 11/05/2022 15:56:17 2416544 Link 0 |
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So if you finish 3rd in the group you are not in relegation battle ?
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 11/05/2022 16:47:36 2416566 Link 1 |
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I think if you look at it from a truly club neutral point of view, it works. Yes there might be a round of dead rubber games, but for the benefit of the championship and football standards in the county overall can only improve as the current set up makes sure the weakest are relegated. If your good enough but unlucky to finish third in a competitive group then you should stay up. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 12/05/2022 09:12:27 2416616 Link 1 |
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I suppose what I mean is they have pushed hard for 5/6 years getting beaten in extra time in semis and quarters and injury time in the final not sure when they fell last year. All this without any real impressive underage teams. How long more can they keep it up
Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 12/05/2022 09:49:48 2416620 Link 0 |
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Totally agree, we finished 3rd on 3 points last year but even if we won the last game and had 4 point we were still in relegation. A team finishing with 3 or 4 points should not be in a relegation battle. Terrible decision by a linesman who has not been seen since cost us last year in round 1."]I presume you're a Bracks man. And your team backed it up by beating Dunshaughlin in the semi final and thus proving you were too good to get relegated. For every team like the Bracks who got 3 and finished 3rd there'll be a team like Dunshaughlin who finished 3rd with 2 points and then lost 3 more games and got relegated. Dunshaughlin finished their championship with 1 win and 5 losses therefore they clearly didn't deserve to stay up in my eyes regardless of finishing 3rd. Yes finishing 3rd with 3 points is unlucky but then if you back that up with 3 straight losses against other relegation teams you don't really get to say it was unfair because there are plenty of chances to redeem it LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 12/05/2022 12:49:19 2416673 Link 3 |
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Correct. More very rarely is there not something on the line in the last round.
royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 13/05/2022 09:12:31 2416791 Link 0 |