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Mayo V Donegal. Winner Takes All - 16 Like(s)

Replying To Fiftyone:  "Really , you don't think thousands of people turning up without tickets is potentially dangerous."
Dangerous? It's in McHale Park not at the edge of the Cliffs of Moher.

GreenandRed (National) - 01/08/2019 14:43:21

"Why Should Anybody Have The God-Given Right To See All Games On Television?" - 16 Like(s)

Replying To MesAmis:  "Another way to look at it is that you're paying €160 annually for the right to them pay Sky more money every month. Can't get RTÉ without the licence fee but you can't get Sky Sports without the licence fee plus a Sky sub every month."
I'd still prefer that my €160 wasn't feeding a lot of public servants who also get some of my tax when I rarely watch RTE. I'd prefer if it all went to TG4 who promote our language and seem more clued in as shown by them live streaming games on YouTube.

GreenandRed (National) - 07/08/2019 19:09:07

Benefits top 4 teams enjoy - 14 Like(s)

Replying To golfcar:  "P Spillane commented yesterday on all county's spending huge amounts on inter county teams which I believe is true but I think the top 4 are now at professional levels of preparation , Mayo have a top class S&C although probably with Mayo before joining Arsenal(this shows how will thought off he is) & Dublin players have meals delivered to them,these teams are now at new levels and now makes it impossible almost for outside teams to compete"
I've had loads of meals delivered to me, Chinese, Indian, Pizzas etc. Never improved my substandard footballing abilities....

GreenandRed (National) - 08/08/2017 10:51:31

Tommy Conlon On Sean Boylan's Meath - 14 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Was only showing that there were examples of Meath journalists, ex players on Boylans team that could write disgraceful stuff too. And yes I would go to 80%+ of Kerry games every year, League and Championship. Do you want me to ask the admin for your email so I can send you a picture of the ticket stub from the 09 qualifier in Tullamore as proof or something??? I have always kept tickets and programs for every game, it's a hobby so it would be no trouble lad. I'm also sure you could find Hayes column on the net from that exact weekend just in case you think that's made up too!!!"
What has that got to do with Séan Boylan?

GreenandRed (National) - 10/08/2020 20:59:24

Sean Boylan Vs Jim Gavin - Who Is The Greatest? - 14 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Greenandred you've never hidden your dialike for for my county and that's fair enough but if you get a chance take a look back a long the threads and see who the real instigators are, I think you'll owe the kerry folk on here an apology."
I have nothing but respect for Kerry and all our counties. I work with sound men from Lixnaw, Listowel and Tralee and enjoy the banter with them. I take issue with posters like yourself and alter egos fabricating stuff and not being an accurate representation of some great Kerry people I know.

GreenandRed (National) - 03/06/2020 17:59:03

Meath Vs Mayo - 14 Like(s)

Replying To redser123:  "So the o'connor news was reported on local radio in mayo and I heard about Newman from someone inside the meath camp.."
Diarmuid.

GreenandRed (Meath) - 20/07/2019 15:19:17

Anti GAA Agenda - 14 Like(s)

Replying To Crinigan:  "But we integrated. That is the vital point. I've no issue with immigration per se. My issue is with lack of integration and the fracture of society that it causes. Irish immigrants adapted by and large, married to other cultures, sold their properties to people from different cultures, didn't impose their culture too much or adapted it to fit. Certain cultures do not integrate and I am not brushing all Muslims with the same brush here either. Many Bosnians (over a thousand in Blanch'town) and Albanians and Turks and Kurds have indeed integrated fantastically in Ireland but these are known moderate Islamic countries (Turkey under Erdogan gone backwards clearly)."
Go down to Ballyhaunis and see how Muslims have integrated. Quiet, devout people, they've bee there more than 40 years. Many of them play for the GAA club. Without the Halal factory Ballyhaunis would be a ghost town. They're locals now. And what did the 'National' Party do when the Parish priest, as a gesture of friendship, ask 2 Muslims to recite their prayers in the Parish church? They brought tentacrowd down to the church yard of a town they'd never heard of for a social media whinge. They're a joke. Integration isn't easy but saying stuff like 'they don't like to integrate' isn't a great starting point.

GreenandRed (National) - 25/10/2020 13:58:33

Meath v Roscommon - 14 Like(s)

Replying To Furlong1949:  "In the winter of 2016 McStay was nearly got rid off by Roscommon. His co manager walked Fergal O Donnell. I think that is a fact. I think Mcstay even refered to his critics in Roscommon after connacht final last year. Didnt Gay Sheeran basically say a Mayo man should not be managing Roscommon. In the winter of 2016 it was a winter of discontent in Roscommon. There was allot of criticism of Mcstay and McHale. I think that is a fact."
link Roscommon didn't nearly get rid of McStay though some in Roscommon football would probably have Ben happy if he left after they were relegated. O'Donnell quit and brought two selectors with him saying he was being undermined. Seems closer to the truth to say it was O'Donnell that was trying to undermine McStay and McHale. Some players didn't return for Roscommon in 2017 for various reasons, but some because they had ties with pro-O'Donell politics. link Pro-O'Donnell camp Sheerin went on a rant about McStay and McHale because they're from Mayo. Not because they're not from Roscommon even though McStay has lived there for years, played for Roscommon Gaels and coached Roscommon minors and U21s. There's no pleasing some people!

GreenandRed (Meath) - 29/01/2018 10:18:22

Dean Rock Free Taking Project - 13 Like(s)

Replying To RicoSuave:  "You have upset the poor aul crayture now :) !!"
Run along now and set up a few more fake accounts to talk to yourself like a good ladeen.

GreenandRed (National) - 09/07/2020 09:44:00

Tommy Conlon On Sean Boylan's Meath - 13 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Was only showing that there were examples of Meath journalists, ex players on Boylans team that could write disgraceful stuff too. And yes I would go to 80%+ of Kerry games every year, League and Championship. Do you want me to ask the admin for your email so I can send you a picture of the ticket stub from the 09 qualifier in Tullamore as proof or something??? I have always kept tickets and programs for every game, it's a hobby so it would be no trouble lad. I'm also sure you could find Hayes column on the net from that exact weekend just in case you think that's made up too!!!"
What has that got to do with Séan Boylan?

GreenandRed (National) - 10/08/2020 20:22:45

GAA on TV - 13 Like(s)

Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "In fairness to crinigan there is substance to his post. I would agree with alot with what he says. Hate of things christian and Jewish might be a bit strong to put it but the left certainly don't hold Islam to the same ethical standards as to other religions. Even liberal analysts such as Bill Maher, Sam Harris and the late Christopher Hitchens have often called out the left on this."
Dualsport. For me a snowflake isn't left or right or centre or whatever you're having. It's someone who goes out of their way to be offended and root out what they see as the offensive terms in an argument and completely ignore someone elses point of view. At least if someone is left or right they have a stance on something and might even be admired even if you strongly disagree with their beliefs and opinions. Snowflake is a bit unfair to someone who could have mental issues maybe, though was there as much mental stress before social media? There are those people who believe that posting Black Lives matter or Save Paris banners on Facebook after a terrorist attack will change extreme views and actions, it won't. That's as much activism as they'll be involved in and they'll take offence if you suggest that all lives matter. They're best ignored. I've no time for organised religion and every religion has genuinely devout well meaning respectful people and a minority of wrongdoers who give them a bad name. The media will skew people's opinions by sensationalising the bad stuff. I think in Ireland a leftie, or bearded leftie as they were sometimes known, is a socialist who genuinely works for better rights and conditions for the working class. Not many of them in RTE. A bunch of public servants living on taxpayers money and offering very little new or creative.

GreenandRed (National) - 06/10/2020 20:47:55

Leinster Football The Reality - 13 Like(s)

Replying To Malonemagic:  "After Meaths hammering today people will be quick to put the boot in on Leinster. But of the 8 back door teams remaining , 4 are Leinster, 2 Ulster, 1 Munster and 1 connacht. Dublin have killed the Leinster championship itself , but the other teams in Leinster are a match for anyone. Kildare beat mayo last year. Meath almost beat Tyrone. Laois won away in derry yesterday. And on top of this many leinster teams are playing without key players due to the hopelesses of it all. If Dublin moved to any other province they would kill that province too. They are phenomenal."
Dublin haven't killed the Leinster championship, it's up to other Leinster counties to give them more to think about and improve and eventually beat them. Look at Cork last night putting Kerry to the pin of their collar. As you say the other teams are doing well in the qualifiers. They need to keep improving and strive to beat Dublin.Dublin have a psychological advantage over some counties who get to games with a 'sure we'll do our best' atitude rather than self-belief that they'll win. Now definitely they are formidable opponents with a great manger but some teams are affectively starting games against them three or four points down. Donegal and Kerry won All Irelands recently so a whole load of positivity in the head might reduce that big gap a bit and it might breed the confidence needed to knock the off their perch.

GreenandRed (National) - 23/06/2019 19:14:53

The Next MAJOR Change In The GAA Will Be... - 13 Like(s)

Replying To Trump2020:  "RIP to Weeshie, no one like him. Can you escape the TV license by watching all your content on a large computer screen?"
Not anymore it seems. I meet Weeshie once. Was walking out the back of the Mackey Stand after we lost the 2014 replay and I saw a man sitting on an upturned bottle crate. He looked familiar but I couldn't place him until a few Kerry supporters called out to him. The most serene contentest looking man in Limerick that night. I shook his hand, he had big bear hands and wished him luck in the final. A gentleman. RIP.

GreenandRed (National) - 02/05/2020 22:41:00

Goalkeeper - 12 Like(s)

Replying To MesAmis:  "I actually heard Curran on a podcast recently talking about it!"
Me too! RTÉ GAA one. Thomás on about Cuxton. Good to listen to but better to watch then on cams from home and Cake holding court!

GreenandRed (National) - 27/04/2020 19:28:26

Boards Forum Restructuring - 12 Like(s)
Long past time to close this thread admin.

GreenandRed (National) - 06/08/2020 13:22:09

GAA on TV - 12 Like(s)

Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "[quote=arock:  "[quote=supersub15:  "When I posted the thread "RTE," in hind sight the thread probably should have read "RTE / GAA". The two state / semi state bodies work well together and are part of our culture, RTE are part of our modern day culture and the GAA are part of our historic culture, in fact I would go as far as saying they would work very well together in business. The GAA was very much part of making the launch of RTE in 1961 a major success, from there on RTE was very much part of bringing all things GAA into the homes of most people in the country successful and without bios, RTE and the GAA have made legends out of a lot of our people and their counties, fact, the people mostly responsibly for this were Michael O'Hehir and Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh in particular, add to that Mícheál "Maidhc" Ó Sé, Gay Byrne, Roll it there "Collette", Jerry Ryan, Mary McAleese, Marion Finucane, (RIP) etc, etc, etc .RTE made mega stars out of some of their talk hosts / presenters, seemingly though at the expense of others. I wouldn't be in favour of comparing our RTE with that of other international broadcasters, they have their ways and we have ours, ours are far from perfect, but I'd prefer ours. The GAA are far from perfect either that's why I sort of fight with them all the time, but I wouldn't have it any other way. If RTE were gone in the morning the GAA would go into serious decline, if the GAA were to disappear tomorrow, then RTE would go into melt down the next day. I never left the GAA, rather it left me when they introduced the Back Door system, the Sky deal, the multi card system, the black card, and their attitude towards the weaker counties. The problem with RTE is they appear to do everything right except knowing how to use the talent at their disposal, and when to dot the I's and cross the T's when it matters most, it gets them into all sorts of trouble."
RTE's problem is not directly related to sport, essentially they are a state sponsored entity, more Sputnik rather than RT. As a result there is an unwritten script, a self censorship that cannot cope with controversy. Hence the dumping of the colourful but off beat Brolly and the introduction of the wooden Cantwell and the end of controversy. RTE's brief flirtation with controversy was at a time of huge growth in the games and its popularity. RTE I agree its survival is probably intertwined with the GAA, but covid 19 has changed the landscape this is a major reset. In 1918 Irish Whiskey was a mega World Brand, WWI, war of Independence and prohibition reset the playing field to zero. Scotch replaced Irish and ot has taken 90 years to create a level playing field again. The GAA needs to embrace TG4 that is where the future for the local game is. RTE is sterile and it is finished as a major promoter of GAA. Just look and listen to its pathetic news coverage, Pravda would be proud of it."]As much as I like TG4, it would make no commercial or promotional sense whatsoever for the GAA to wed itself completely to TG4. TG4 is a niche channel. It's viewing figures are tiny in relation to the size of the national pool. I dont know what the exact figures are but if they reach 5% of the national audience for a run of the mill programme they are doing well. Maybe for GAA games it might double , treble or quadruple even....you are still talking about very low figures in a national context. I dont think that would change much if TG4 became the main free to air provider of GAA games. And you are also losing the possibility of promoting the sports beyond their traditional base. Leaving aside our large cohort of inveterate Irish born Anglophiles (or "West Brits" if you prefer!) who might only watch a GAA match a couple of times a year if they do at all, what is the likelihood of, say, a Polish person living here sitting down to watch a game that's not of their culture in a language that they dont understand? RTE is on its knees. When they have to start selling paintings off the walls to keep the place running it tells you how dire their financial circumstances are --'and they had to do that before the pandemic struck. Its situation one would expect is even more perilous now and their has to be a real doubt about its future viability. But if RTE go to the wall it will be bad news for the GAA as it will be one less major customer and given the competition from other sports the private media channels will cherry pick the GAA games they'll want to show and GAA fans will have to put their hands in their pockets to pay for live streaming of games that the bigger networks will have no interest in showing. Be careful what you wish for."]Fair points. But the streaming services can improve what are sometimes patchy service and people subscribing know that club and county teams depend on the revenue to survive. So it's in the streaming services interest in giving a good product. Subscribers can decide what games to watch, they can chose to subscribe or not to bother that week or that month. But they're usually happy to do so because they get a live game to view and some cash goes to club or county. I don't think RTE are worried about the quality of their service attracting new customers. TV licence holders, whose tax is already subsidising RTE television, don't have a choice but to pay the licence fee, or multimedia fee as it's being called now. Many are already paying for broadband and/or TV where the government are already coining in tax from companies like Vodafone, Eir and Virgin Media. More tax in to government there and some of that handed to RTE. The huge bulk of the licence fee goes to RTE. We have no choice there, unlike some with streaming services. RTE also takes in advertising revenue and gets revenue from selling programmes to other broadcasters. So, licence fees, subsidies, advertising and sales and the debt increases. I think the government need to sell it off if there are takers and a buyer will break it up into those parts that are profitable. No licence fee for us to pay, they might use some tax for some public service broadcasting via RTE's new owner's facilities. That's potentially €160 per year for some GAA fans to stream club and county games and give them some well needed cash. A few pundits might miss the Sunday game cash, nice suits and media exposure but I don't see the grassroots of GAA miss RTE one bit.

GreenandRed (National) - 19/09/2020 14:10:51

East Belfast GAC - 12 Like(s)

Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "So why are the people who fly the Confederate flag excluded?"
Because previous injustices to nationalists in the 20th century in Belfast isn't as cool a topic on social media as Black Lives Matters or slave labour in the 19th century.

GreenandRed (National) - 20/07/2020 10:57:29

Sunday Game Football Team - 12 Like(s)

Replying To mick2007:  "I'm Actually not surprised that you can't grasp the point I'm trying to make.. no doubt your one of the 1000s I'd dubs that go to 1 game of football a year stand on the hill and sing your wee heart out "cmon you boys in blue" cluxo, dermo, Berno, Cono and go home and put the joints away til the following year...... when I was playing the mixer was called the middle of the field area.. it's an area where Fento wouldn't survive with the likes of tohill and darragh.. they would eat him without salt.. Next you'll be trying to tell us that Connolly is the greatest forward that ever played the game.. Fenton reminds me of Wayne Rooney in his 1st few years playing with England he was one of the greatest Strikers ever played the game and that was coming from knowledgable lads as well like yourself within soccer circles.......over hyped"
Rooney did alright for a lad that was overhyped.

GreenandRed (National) - 22/05/2020 09:20:03

The Sunday Game - Awful Coverage - 12 Like(s)

Replying To moc.dna:  "All the good boys & girls will read from their pre prepared cue cards today. The first aid room at TSG must be packed with injuries from sitting on the fence, some will need reconstruction down there soon. If bores grew on trees, RTE & TSG would be an orchard. Now that the questioning voice has been silenced, it will all be nice & safe, happy clappy, let's give them all a medal."
He's not a questioning voice, he just thrives on the attention. He's more than capable of doing good analysis, having the craic but allowing presenter and fellow analysts a say too but prefers his own voice. I agree with everything else you say though. But it's RTE and will remain conservative and boring until someone shakes them up. The Sunday Game factory gets the raw material of an ex-county player who might look good on TV, put a suit on him and stick him on the show, regardless of how he comes across to an audience. Seeing as they're guaranteed the bulk of the licence money and get government subsidies, despite losing money, their cosy arrangement means that won't happen anytime soon. It needs good analysis, a sense of humour and probably a few gimmicks to entice the next generation to watch it and actually make money for RTE through ads. Buff Egan hit the nail on the head when he says most young people today have no interest in how GAA is presented. The GAA should also have an interest. In business terms the kids today are their potential customers and The Sunday Game is part of their marketing strategy. Looking in at a few auld lads squabbling won't entice them to buy what the GAA is selling. It's 2019, who knows if there will be a Sunday Game or RTE in 2029.

GreenandRed (National) - 14/09/2019 14:04:55

Boards Forum Restructuring - 12 Like(s)

Replying To KillingFields:  "A discussion forum should be about people sharing their opinions. Disagreeing, usually amicably, finding some common ground. The rest of us have opinions but you portray your opinions like they're facts. They aren't. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5700 - 30/07/2020 16:48:55 i express opinion as fact as much as anyone else does so get off your high horse dismissing me It is fact that the journal and the42 are not forums and not compareable to this site. its a fact that this forum is very basic and poor and outdated compared to forums such as boards.ie and gaaboard.com"
Completely ignoring the point I made by answering something else and throwing in an insult. You think you're the only poster here that can be offended by insults? I never mentioned Journal or 42 at all. But there's posters there that wouldn't get on Joe Duffy's phone in cos even Joe ikes a better class of whingerm Here's your quote: 'Allowing more posts of all kinds would be better than the current situation. Better forum with improvements to allow easier posting of links and to embed pics and videos into posts would greatly enhance the forum. Sites that allow more posts will also have far more better quality posts as well.' No' In my opinion, I think' just portraying above comment like it's a fact. You've no idea that they can improve the forum, it's an opinion. Maybe try respecting other people's opinions even if you don't agree with them. That's all. No insult was intended.

GreenandRed (National) - 30/07/2020 19:22:35