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Cork Chairman Pitches New AI SHC Revamp

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Replying To omahant:  "Win 1 of 3, go to likely QF; win 2 of 3, go to host likely QF.
Maybe top 2 to crossover SFs is better.

Give teams a crossover 4th game, if you wish (A1vB4; A2vB3; A3vB2: & A4vB1), before SFs."
The Ring Cup this year: 3 weeks of group rounds, a week off and then 2 more weeks of group rounds.
2 groups of 4 - with 2nd v 3rd in quarter finals: 3 weeks of group rounds, a week off, then quarters and semis on consecutive weekends.

The current 6 team groups reverse fixtures in the following year. Just a matter of doing the same for 4 team groups. There needs to be more knockout hurling within reason.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 10053 - 24/07/2026 21:28:41    2686976

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Well, something needs to be done because there is only 1 show in town and it aint hurling right now.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2148 - 27/07/2026 12:18:23    2687489

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Well, something needs to be done because there is only 1 show in town and it aint hurling right now."
We have a big issue with the hurling counties in Leinster, and I exclude Galway from this.
We are miles off the Munster hurling counties.

Similarly with football in the hurling province of Munster. The quality of football from most counties down there is shocking.

The GAA should be trying to do a lot more to help bring up the standard of both - additional coaches could be a start.?!

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 5265 - 30/07/2026 14:34:55    2688175

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Provincial knock out (seeded draws)
6 Munster - Current 5 + Kerry
8 Leinster - Current 6 + Carlow + Laois

top 4 in each province go to All Ireland super 8
Bottom 2 in Munster and 4 in Leinster enter Tier 2 competition

Tier 2 championships - seeded knock out. 3 winners go to New York to play Tier 2 championships with New York
played in May

Leinster B competition - Antrim, Westmeath, Meath, Longford, Louth, Wicklow
Connacht - Roscommon, Mayo, Sligo, London, Leitrim, Lancashire
Ulster - Donegal, Fermanagh, Armagh, Monaghan, Tyrone, Derry, Cavan, Down

Winners of Tier 2 competitions go to NY play off on June bank Holiday

Tier 2 Play offs - End June
5 teams into Lory Meagher + UK winners
6 teams into Nick Rackard
8 into Christy Ring
2 finalists from NY playoffs into Joe McDonagh

So based on current form

Liam McCarthy - Cork, Limerick, Tipp, Clare, Galway, Kilkenny, Offaly, Dublin
Joe McDonagh - Wexford, Laois, Carlow, Kildare, Waterford, Kerry, Antrim, New York
Christ Ring - Wicklow, Roscommon, Donegal, Antrim, Derry, Down, Westmeath, Meath
Nick Rackard - Armagh, Fermanagh, Louth, Sligo, Tyrone, Mayo, London
Lory Meagher - Cavan, Longford, Leitrim, Monaghan, Lancashire, Warickshire

The above competitions split into 2 groups played in late June up to mid July

Semi finals and finals played August Bank Holiday and finals in Mid August.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 2021 - 07/08/2026 10:12:23    2688931

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Provincial knock out (seeded draws)
6 Munster - Current 5 + Kerry
8 Leinster - Current 6 + Carlow + Laois

top 4 in each province go to All Ireland super 8
Bottom 2 in Munster and 4 in Leinster enter Tier 2 competition

Tier 2 championships - seeded knock out. 3 winners go to New York to play Tier 2 championships with New York
played in May

Leinster B competition - Antrim, Westmeath, Meath, Longford, Louth, Wicklow
Connacht - Roscommon, Mayo, Sligo, London, Leitrim, Lancashire
Ulster - Donegal, Fermanagh, Armagh, Monaghan, Tyrone, Derry, Cavan, Down

Winners of Tier 2 competitions go to NY play off on June bank Holiday

Tier 2 Play offs - End June
5 teams into Lory Meagher + UK winners
6 teams into Nick Rackard
8 into Christy Ring
2 finalists from NY playoffs into Joe McDonagh

So based on current form

Liam McCarthy - Cork, Limerick, Tipp, Clare, Galway, Kilkenny, Offaly, Dublin
Joe McDonagh - Wexford, Laois, Carlow, Kildare, Waterford, Kerry, Antrim, New York
Christ Ring - Wicklow, Roscommon, Donegal, Antrim, Derry, Down, Westmeath, Meath
Nick Rackard - Armagh, Fermanagh, Louth, Sligo, Tyrone, Mayo, London
Lory Meagher - Cavan, Longford, Leitrim, Monaghan, Lancashire, Warickshire

The above competitions split into 2 groups played in late June up to mid July

Semi finals and finals played August Bank Holiday and finals in Mid August."
Cant push back the finals into August. An attempt was made this year at Congress and the motion got pulled before it was even voted on.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20402 - 07/08/2026 10:29:17    2688934

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@tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 2021 - 07/08/2026

An Ulster Derry v Cavan tie could be a cracker (or something less).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3509 - 07/08/2026 11:14:17    2688944

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Replying To Viking66:  "Cant push back the finals into August. An attempt was made this year at Congress and the motion got pulled before it was even voted on."
Accountants not going to let games interfere with soliciting events.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4532 - 07/08/2026 11:28:45    2688948

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