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Replying To LongfordSham: "Bottom 2 i believe are to be relegated from the playoff, which would be bloody ridiculous and a needless extra portion of games. League phase 1, League phase 2, Relegation round robin league, followed by a league phase Intermediate championship." Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.
The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary.
LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 17/06/2026 12:14:51
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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.
The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary." 100% agree with you on the league finishing with the top team as winning promotion and bottom team relegated.
On the two Killoes playing each other, doesn't the weaker of the Div 2 Killoe team still pull a few players from the stronger of the Div 2 Killoe team? I know last year they had players playing Div 2 and Div 3.
Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 17/06/2026 13:52:18
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Replying To Frank74: "100% agree with you on the league finishing with the top team as winning promotion and bottom team relegated.
On the two Killoes playing each other, doesn't the weaker of the Div 2 Killoe team still pull a few players from the stronger of the Div 2 Killoe team? I know last year they had players playing Div 2 and Div 3." No they can't do that. Killoe had to name players for each of their teams. You cannot play for two different teams in the same competition
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Replying To liosbreac6265: "No they can't do that. Killoe had to name players for each of their teams. You cannot play for two different teams in the same competition" Why bother seeding the two Killoe teams then, so they could not meet?
What was the point in that?
Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 18/06/2026 11:46:27
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On ACFL structure, the Premiership format of top team winning and bottom team(s) relegated is the purist form of league. But the NFL format is fine and would be a good format to adopt for ACFL.
If you applied NFL structure to our 2025 ACFL, it would have ended like this:
Division 1
Final: Clonguish v Colmcille
Relegated: Granard & Rathcline
Division 2
Final: Cashel v Grattan Og
Promoted: Cashel & Grattan Og
Relegated: Carrickedmond & Killoe
Division 3
Final: Clonguish v Killoe
Promoted: Clonguish & Killoe
Relegated: Granard & Slashers
Division 4
Final: Grattan Og v Fr. Manning Gaels
Promoted: Grattan Og & Fr. Manning Gaels
Relegated: Cashel & Ballymahon
Division 5
Final: Colmcille v Mullinalaghta
Promoted: Colmcille & Mullinalaghta
Use Leader Cup for Division 1 winner who are Senior League champions in the same way the NFL Division 1 winner is the National League champion. Do away with all other cups including top 4 cups. No relegation playoffs either - you finish in bottom 2 you go down. If a club ends up with two teams in the same division, ensure they play each other in round 1 (to avoid any one of them needing the points to make the final or avoid relegation) and then push on with rest of the league as normal.
LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 18/06/2026 12:39:44
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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.
The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary." The "world won't end" but you are giving one club the power to decide league placings themselves. Understandable to keep them apart especially after what happened a few years ago in the championship
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For div 2 Dromard ardagh Mostrim are already through to the semi finals I believe once connollys win their last game and dromard beat Grattans connollys will be the 4th team of the semi final for div 2 I believe Grattans need to beat dromard once they do that they will go through
Longfordlad1985 (Longford) - Posts: 78 - 21/06/2026 19:40:40
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Just looking at the division 2 table posted by Longford Gaelic Stats, bottom team Ballymahon having not one a game all year. What is happening to them? With 2 been relegated to division 3 they look in massive danger.
datsit (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 22/06/2026 08:35:33
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Replying To datsit: "Just looking at the division 2 table posted by Longford Gaelic Stats, bottom team Ballymahon having not one a game all year. What is happening to them? With 2 been relegated to division 3 they look in massive danger." Should they be relegated to Division 3, has a club of that size ever played in as low a division in the last 30 years? There's a very good chance, should things not turn around for them, they'll be facing relegation in the Intermediate championship too.
LongfordSham (Longford) - Posts: 154 - 22/06/2026 13:37:40
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We played Division 4 and Junior Championship back in 1991 and 92.
Back then it was 4 divisions with 6 teams each.
Majority of senior clubs played in Divisions 1 and 2, majority of Intermediate teams were in Division 3 and majority of Junior clubs were in Division 4.
Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 22/06/2026 15:47:20
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Heard their could be no promotion or relegation now from divison 2 because off how the county board structured it! One club just missing out on top is not happy!!
slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 272 - 23/06/2026 10:41:50
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Replying To slasher9: "Heard their could be no promotion or relegation now from divison 2 because off how the county board structured it! One club just missing out on top is not happy!!" I would not be surprised if this is true.
How they can declare a winner of the league and promotion along with it, when not all the clubs would have played all the same teams!!
It just made no sense whatsoever.
An were all these split groups just brought in because there was 2 Killoe teams?!!!
Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 23/06/2026 11:52:03
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Replying To slasher9: "Heard their could be no promotion or relegation now from divison 2 because off how the county board structured it! One club just missing out on top is not happy!!" Not true. Top team will be promoted and bottom four go into relegation playoff with worst two going down. All agreed as part of the two-phase structure for Division 2 earlier in the year.
The unknown is what happens if the two Killoe teams are in the bottom four because if they couldn't play each other in the earlier rounds of both phases, they can't play each other in a relegation playoff either, to avoid a double standard. If that happens, CB might change relegation to two semi-finals with a Killoe team in each one, and the loser of each semi would then go down. We will have to wait and see on that one.
LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 23/06/2026 13:11:28
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That is nonsense, once again similar to division 1 the league was agreed and adopted by all clubs at county board meeting, and as a result the relegation/promotion is based off the offical competition regulations.
A round robin is clearly not in thje regulations of division 2 this year.
But once again lads this should be considered at the start of year when clubs are agreeing and voting to league structures, not blame been passed to everyone else when it didnt go the way a club wants.
datsit (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 23/06/2026 14:21:25
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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Not true. Top team will be promoted and bottom four go into relegation playoff with worst two going down. All agreed as part of the two-phase structure for Division 2 earlier in the year.
The unknown is what happens if the two Killoe teams are in the bottom four because if they couldn't play each other in the earlier rounds of both phases, they can't play each other in a relegation playoff either, to avoid a double standard. If that happens, CB might change relegation to two semi-finals with a Killoe team in each one, and the loser of each semi would then go down. We will have to wait and see on that one." Things were agreed before and we seen what happened!! U are contradicting yourself if it was agreed then they cant change the relegation structure?! All i know for fact is one club is not happy and cant blame them. Its not a league if teams dont play the same teams!
slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 272 - 23/06/2026 14:27:32
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Replying To slasher9: "Things were agreed before and we seen what happened!! U are contradicting yourself if it was agreed then they cant change the relegation structure?! All i know for fact is one club is not happy and cant blame them. Its not a league if teams dont play the same teams!" Below is what was agreed for Division 2:
"Top team will be declared the winner of Division 2, will be presented with the Michael Moran Cup and promoted to Division 1 for the following years competition. The bottom four teams will play a round robin relegation play-off following which the two teams with the lowest points will be relegated to Division 3 for the following years competition. The top four teams will play for the Patsy Reilly Cup - two semi finals and final".
The two phases of competition, the difference in points for wins in each phase (2 points in phase 1 and 3 points in phase 2) and the promotion/relegation structure was all signed off by clubs.
If Dromard draw or win tomorrow they will be Division 2 winners and promoted. If Dromard lose and Ardagh Moydow win on Thursday, they will be Division 2 winners instead and promoted. Simple as that. I do not know what provision has been made for scenario of two teams from same club being in relegation playoff, hence why I said what I think the CB might do instead in that scenario, and that we would have to wait and see. If you chat to your club delegates they can show you the competition structure as agreed and bought off by clubs.
LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 23/06/2026 16:48:11
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The Division 2 Fixtures Farce:
Where is the integrity in this competition?
The GAA has a lot of crazy competition structures, but Division 2 this year takes the biscuit. Not all teams play each other because the two Killoe teams have to be separated into different groups in Phase 1 and Phase 2. So some teams have had a much harder schedule than others. The whole league has been designed around Killoe White and Green not playing each other. But ironically, despite all the manipulation to protect them, it looks like both Killoe teams are heading for the relegation playoffs anyway. How is this going to work?
I assume the county board has some plan for this but you won't find it in the 25 page 2026 regulations document on their website, god forbid publishing the rules governing a competition, what if you'd have to change the structure of the competition halfway through and face… accountability.
County Players:
The situation with county players is an absolute joke. They are completely unavailable for certain games, leaving clubs missing up to 6 or 7 key players at a time. So not only are clubs playing entirely different schedules, but some teams are being forced to play at a massive disadvantage against clubs who are at full strength.
To top it off, the rules clearly don't apply equally across the board. When county players were asked not to play by the county manager in the 5th round of Phase 1 for the benefit of the county team, 4 Dromard players completely broke ranks and togged out anyway. That game could end up deciding the outcome of the whole competition. Where is the fairness in that?
Lack of games:
Then you have the complete lack of games for club players while everyone sits around waiting on the county setup. Ironically, the better Longford do in the championship, the worse things become for lads on the ground because Phase 2 of Division 2 just gets delayed further and further. Players not named to play reserve football, who started training back in January played a grand total of five first team games in five months. How is anyone supposed to keep a squad motivated or fit on one game a month?
Fixtures chaos:
On top of that, we have a calendar where all fixtures are constantly changed at short notice based entirely on Killoe's schedule. Just because Killoe has three teams playing on the one weekend, every other club has their games shifted on a whim. A player could make plans based on a set of dates in the master fixture list on the Longford Gaa Website and the County Board and the CCCC can change them at a moment's notice. This didn't only happen with Killoe but with other clubs who can influence the county board. How is a player supposed to manage family, work, or other commitments with that going on?
The split season was supposed to fix the fixtures and provide certainty for club players, but things have actually gotten worse in Longford. It is no wonder the standard of club football is so bad in Longford. The current system is completely unsustainable and any club player in Division 2 with any sense would be asking if it's worth bothering to tog out next year.
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Replying To fixlongfordgaa: "The Division 2 Fixtures Farce:
Where is the integrity in this competition?
The GAA has a lot of crazy competition structures, but Division 2 this year takes the biscuit. Not all teams play each other because the two Killoe teams have to be separated into different groups in Phase 1 and Phase 2. So some teams have had a much harder schedule than others. The whole league has been designed around Killoe White and Green not playing each other. But ironically, despite all the manipulation to protect them, it looks like both Killoe teams are heading for the relegation playoffs anyway. How is this going to work?
I assume the county board has some plan for this but you won't find it in the 25 page 2026 regulations document on their website, god forbid publishing the rules governing a competition, what if you'd have to change the structure of the competition halfway through and face… accountability.
County Players:
The situation with county players is an absolute joke. They are completely unavailable for certain games, leaving clubs missing up to 6 or 7 key players at a time. So not only are clubs playing entirely different schedules, but some teams are being forced to play at a massive disadvantage against clubs who are at full strength.
To top it off, the rules clearly don't apply equally across the board. When county players were asked not to play by the county manager in the 5th round of Phase 1 for the benefit of the county team, 4 Dromard players completely broke ranks and togged out anyway. That game could end up deciding the outcome of the whole competition. Where is the fairness in that?
Lack of games:
Then you have the complete lack of games for club players while everyone sits around waiting on the county setup. Ironically, the better Longford do in the championship, the worse things become for lads on the ground because Phase 2 of Division 2 just gets delayed further and further. Players not named to play reserve football, who started training back in January played a grand total of five first team games in five months. How is anyone supposed to keep a squad motivated or fit on one game a month?
Fixtures chaos:
On top of that, we have a calendar where all fixtures are constantly changed at short notice based entirely on Killoe's schedule. Just because Killoe has three teams playing on the one weekend, every other club has their games shifted on a whim. A player could make plans based on a set of dates in the master fixture list on the Longford Gaa Website and the County Board and the CCCC can change them at a moment's notice. This didn't only happen with Killoe but with other clubs who can influence the county board. How is a player supposed to manage family, work, or other commitments with that going on?
The split season was supposed to fix the fixtures and provide certainty for club players, but things have actually gotten worse in Longford. It is no wonder the standard of club football is so bad in Longford. The current system is completely unsustainable and any club player in Division 2 with any sense would be asking if it's worth bothering to tog out next year." 100% to all of the above!! If it is a situation where the 2 Killoe teams remain in Division 2 next year and the same format exists, despite it being ridiculous, would it not be better off to award the 3 points for a win for the first phase without county players and have it revert to 2 points for a win in phase 2, when all county players would 'likely' be fully back?
LongfordSham (Longford) - Posts: 154 - 24/06/2026 09:04:26
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Replying To fixlongfordgaa: "The Division 2 Fixtures Farce:
Where is the integrity in this competition?
The GAA has a lot of crazy competition structures, but Division 2 this year takes the biscuit. Not all teams play each other because the two Killoe teams have to be separated into different groups in Phase 1 and Phase 2. So some teams have had a much harder schedule than others. The whole league has been designed around Killoe White and Green not playing each other. But ironically, despite all the manipulation to protect them, it looks like both Killoe teams are heading for the relegation playoffs anyway. How is this going to work?
I assume the county board has some plan for this but you won't find it in the 25 page 2026 regulations document on their website, god forbid publishing the rules governing a competition, what if you'd have to change the structure of the competition halfway through and face… accountability.
County Players:
The situation with county players is an absolute joke. They are completely unavailable for certain games, leaving clubs missing up to 6 or 7 key players at a time. So not only are clubs playing entirely different schedules, but some teams are being forced to play at a massive disadvantage against clubs who are at full strength.
To top it off, the rules clearly don't apply equally across the board. When county players were asked not to play by the county manager in the 5th round of Phase 1 for the benefit of the county team, 4 Dromard players completely broke ranks and togged out anyway. That game could end up deciding the outcome of the whole competition. Where is the fairness in that?
Lack of games:
Then you have the complete lack of games for club players while everyone sits around waiting on the county setup. Ironically, the better Longford do in the championship, the worse things become for lads on the ground because Phase 2 of Division 2 just gets delayed further and further. Players not named to play reserve football, who started training back in January played a grand total of five first team games in five months. How is anyone supposed to keep a squad motivated or fit on one game a month?
Fixtures chaos:
On top of that, we have a calendar where all fixtures are constantly changed at short notice based entirely on Killoe's schedule. Just because Killoe has three teams playing on the one weekend, every other club has their games shifted on a whim. A player could make plans based on a set of dates in the master fixture list on the Longford Gaa Website and the County Board and the CCCC can change them at a moment's notice. This didn't only happen with Killoe but with other clubs who can influence the county board. How is a player supposed to manage family, work, or other commitments with that going on?
The split season was supposed to fix the fixtures and provide certainty for club players, but things have actually gotten worse in Longford. It is no wonder the standard of club football is so bad in Longford. The current system is completely unsustainable and any club player in Division 2 with any sense would be asking if it's worth bothering to tog out next year." Great post!!!
Once again the Longford county board seem to out do themselves each year with crazy decisions.
I have no issue what so ever with Killoe having 2 teams in Div 2, great to see a club with so many players playing at a decent level, but just run the league off as normal and make them play against each other!! But once again the whole situation has now turned into a joke with some teams not playing some teams.. how is that even possible?? Well the CB have turned Longford football into a laughing stock.
Even to mention the words Div 2 phase 1, Div 2 phase 2!!!!!!! This is complete madness.
Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 114 - 24/06/2026 09:43:41
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