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Am obviously disappointed that Wexford lost to Fermanagh yesterday, and disappointed too with the draw we got today. And that's not a reflection on Leitrim themselves. It's just that it's a long drive from here!
Consoling myself slightly though with how New York enter things now, and how Fermanagh were the ones drawn to play them. Thinking to myself "if we'd won the game yesterday, that would have been us".
Really does seem an anomaly now that we see it in practice. As M Lyster points out above, if Fermanagh beat them, they'll still be no further along after winning three games than everybody else will be after winning just two. And if they lose to them, they'll be out after losing just once, instead of getting a second chance like everybody else gets before the quarter-finals (barring New York themselves, of course).
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Replying To CastleBravo: "No offence to Limerick but by what measure are they "good"?
They were relegated in the league with 2 wins and then lost every game they played in Munster and the Tailteann Cup by an average of 10 points per game.
If that's "good" then I'd hate to see what a bad team looks like." You are missing something.
sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 3007 - 25/05/2026 17:39:41
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Am obviously disappointed that Wexford lost to Fermanagh yesterday, and disappointed too with the draw we got today. And that's not a reflection on Leitrim themselves. It's just that it's a long drive from here!
Consoling myself slightly though with how New York enter things now, and how Fermanagh were the ones drawn to play them. Thinking to myself "if we'd won the game yesterday, that would have been us".
Really does seem an anomaly now that we see it in practice. As M Lyster points out above, if Fermanagh beat them, they'll still be no further along after winning three games than everybody else will be after winning just two. And if they lose to them, they'll be out after losing just once, instead of getting a second chance like everybody else gets before the quarter-finals (barring New York themselves, of course)." It does seem a bit unfair alright but that's the price to be paid for crowbarring NY into the inter county....sorry, I mean "promoting the game in New York".
The GAA should have acted as if there's actually a Round 3A for the 4 winners of round 2A, it's just that 3 teams get a bye to the QFs so the only 3A tie ever played is the NY one.
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1741 - 25/05/2026 20:28:48
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Replying To sponger: " Replying To CastleBravo: "No offence to Limerick but by what measure are they "<i>good</i>"?
They were relegated in the league with 2 wins and then lost every game they played in Munster and the Tailteann Cup by an average of 10 points per game.
If that's "good" then I'd hate to see what a bad team looks like."</div>You are missing something." What, they lost to the mighty Wicklow?
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1741 - 26/05/2026 09:11:14
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Replying To CastleBravo: " Replying To Pikeman96: "Am obviously disappointed that Wexford lost to Fermanagh yesterday, and disappointed too with the draw we got today. And that's not a reflection on Leitrim themselves. It's just that it's a long drive from here!
Consoling myself slightly though with how New York enter things now, and how Fermanagh were the ones drawn to play them. Thinking to myself "if we'd won the game yesterday, that would have been us".
Really does seem an anomaly now that we see it in practice. As <b>M Lyster</b> points out above, if Fermanagh beat them, they'll still be no further along after winning three games than everybody else will be after winning just two. And if they lose to them, they'll be out after losing just once, instead of getting a second chance like everybody else gets before the quarter-finals (barring New York themselves, of course)."</div>It does seem a bit unfair alright but that's the price to be paid for crowbarring NY into the inter county....sorry, I mean <i>"promoting the game in New York"</i>.
The GAA should have acted as if there's actually a Round 3A for the 4 winners of round 2A, it's just that 3 teams get a bye to the QFs so the only 3A tie ever played is the NY one." What have you against the promotion of the GAA in NY?
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2060 - 26/05/2026 11:07:22
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Replying To Viking66: "The FA Cup wasnt always the secondary competition. It gradually headed that way, and the Premier League was the final nail in that coffin." It was never as important as the league. Not that I know of anyway.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 547 - 26/05/2026 11:28:21
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Replying To CastleBravo: " Replying To sponger: "[quote=CastleBravo: "No offence to Limerick but by what measure are they "<i>good</i>"?
They were relegated in the league with 2 wins and then lost every game they played in Munster and the Tailteann Cup by an average of 10 points per game.
If that's "good" then I'd hate to see what a bad team looks like."</div>You are missing something." What, they lost to the mighty Wicklow?"]Limerick highlight the challenges the weaker counties face in promoting GF.. Last season we won Division 4 and got to the Tailteann Cup final. This season we drew one , won 2 and lost the rest. They changed the system in TC and we got 2 away games which we lost. We went from a fair and equal system to one that relies heavily on the luck of the draw. We had no luck in the draw. There are good footballers in Limerick. The problem is getting them to commit for a period of time or long enough to develop something. I would guesstimate that if the best 35 footballers( Excluding anyone that may be with hurlers) committed to the football team together for a sustained period of time coached by experienced team of coaches that we would probably be at top end of Division 3 level getting promoted and competing when we do. We could definitely match what Clare did under Collins. Unfortunately we just dont keep a panel together long enough. There are many reasons but most lead back to the CB and public interest.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 547 - 26/05/2026 11:45:20
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Still anyone's competition to call.
Current odds still have Down as favourites, followed by Offaly and Laois.
All three of those teams have shown themselves to be inconsistent over the year taking league into account aswell.
Laois motoring along nicely and have already beaten Down and Offaly this year.
Wexford might still be the value if they can find some of the earlier season form, they currently 5 favourites at 10/1
Laoisvillian (Laois) - Posts: 90 - 26/05/2026 11:59:18
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Replying To Laoisvillian: "Still anyone's competition to call.
Current odds still have Down as favourites, followed by Offaly and Laois.
All three of those teams have shown themselves to be inconsistent over the year taking league into account aswell.
Laois motoring along nicely and have already beaten Down and Offaly this year.
Wexford might still be the value if they can find some of the earlier season form, they currently 5 favourites at 10/1" I would have Offaly and Laois ahead of Down.
sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 3007 - 26/05/2026 13:18:49
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Impressive win by Offaly at the weekend. They had a tough league. The win over Down is massive.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9792 - 26/05/2026 20:44:15
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "It was never as important as the league. Not that I know of anyway." I remember back in the 80s noone ever played a weakened team in an FA Cup game.
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Offaly certainly well look well placed after good wins over Clare and Down,Laoid be happy with home quarter final to come slightly under the radar.
The teams in quarters already in decent position, home game to come plus extra week break(apart from Fermanagh who have to play prelim quarter v New York) which is key even more so at TC than all ireland level with smaller squad depth.
All teams playing this weekend will have 3 consecutive games to play if reach semis which will test all teams, with injuries playing big part.
Their is a feast of football next few weekends, which i great, though just looking at next weekend, when have Tailteann Cup quarter finals, also will have 8 all ireland games which already dominating the media, so would wonder how many lines in papers and seconds on tv the Tailteann cup games will get??
macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1223 - 03/06/2026 19:54:49
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Replying To Tadhg2020: " Replying To CastleBravo: "[quote=sponger: "[quote=CastleBravo: "No offence to Limerick but by what measure are they "<i>good</i>"?
They were relegated in the league with 2 wins and then lost every game they played in Munster and the Tailteann Cup by an average of 10 points per game.
If that's "good" then I'd hate to see what a bad team looks like."</div>You are missing something." What, they lost to the mighty Wicklow?"]Limerick highlight the challenges the weaker counties face in promoting GF.. Last season we won Division 4 and got to the Tailteann Cup final. This season we drew one , won 2 and lost the rest. They changed the system in TC and we got 2 away games which we lost. We went from a fair and equal system to one that relies heavily on the luck of the draw. We had no luck in the draw. There are good footballers in Limerick. The problem is getting them to commit for a period of time or long enough to develop something. I would guesstimate that if the best 35 footballers( Excluding anyone that may be with hurlers) committed to the football team together for a sustained period of time coached by experienced team of coaches that we would probably be at top end of Division 3 level getting promoted and competing when we do. We could definitely match what Clare did under Collins. Unfortunately we just dont keep a panel together long enough. There are many reasons but most lead back to the CB and public interest."]It's a catch 22 situation Tadhg. A number of players tend to drift away from the senior panels when they are relegated to the bottom tiers of the league. Or they tire of not making progress and decide to only play in their own county championship. That results in huge turnovers of players year in year out. Therefore they don't have a settled team and are constantly trying out new players. So it's inevitable that most teams, especially in the 4th division will struggle and when many teams in the basement divison get promoted they make a hasty return the following year. There are a few who do manage to climb the ladder and keep improving but unfortunately not many. Easy to understand why so many won't commit or take up other sports. The amount of effort and hard work during the year for county players is colossal and without success on an ongoing basis the mass exodus of players will undoubtedly be always with us. There is no real answer or solution to the problem. It simply means that the better teams will attract better players and the weaker teams by and large can only hope that one day their fortunes will change for the better.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 707 - 05/06/2026 12:07:52
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Seeded in QF draw
Antrim
Laois
Offaly
Fermanagh
Unseeded
Sligo
Wexford
Wicklow
Down
All the Munster teams out already, a joke of a provincial championship with Kerry & Cork up against 4 of the worst teams in Ireland.
The GAA's procedures for the QF draw say repeat pairings will be avoided:
Forbidden pairings
Offaly v Down
Laois v Wicklow
Fermanagh v Wexford
I'm still not sure who gets home advantage in the QF, giving it to the unbeaten seeds would be an appropriate reward. Neutral venues would probably be a bad idea for attendances.
Fermanagh have had to win 3 games to get to this stage. What was the point of bringing New York over for a hammering?
Down huge favourites to lift a 2nd title, they shouldn't even be in it really. Draw on Monday morning probably.
M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 487 - 06/06/2026 19:10:41
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Replying To M Lyster: "Seeded in QF draw
Antrim
Laois
Offaly
Fermanagh
Unseeded
Sligo
Wexford
Wicklow
Down
All the Munster teams out already, a joke of a provincial championship with Kerry & Cork up against 4 of the worst teams in Ireland.
The GAA's procedures for the QF draw say repeat pairings will be avoided:
Forbidden pairings
Offaly v Down
Laois v Wicklow
Fermanagh v Wexford
I'm still not sure who gets home advantage in the QF, giving it to the unbeaten seeds would be an appropriate reward. Neutral venues would probably be a bad idea for attendances.
Fermanagh have had to win 3 games to get to this stage. What was the point of bringing New York over for a hammering?
Down huge favourites to lift a 2nd title, they shouldn't even be in it really. Draw on Monday morning probably." The 4 winners from 2 "A" will have home advantage in semi finals.
Yellaman (Wexford) - Posts: 278 - 06/06/2026 19:25:22
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Replying To M Lyster: "Seeded in QF draw
Antrim
Laois
Offaly
Fermanagh
Unseeded
Sligo
Wexford
Wicklow
Down
All the Munster teams out already, a joke of a provincial championship with Kerry & Cork up against 4 of the worst teams in Ireland.
The GAA's procedures for the QF draw say repeat pairings will be avoided:
Forbidden pairings
Offaly v Down
Laois v Wicklow
Fermanagh v Wexford
I'm still not sure who gets home advantage in the QF, giving it to the unbeaten seeds would be an appropriate reward. Neutral venues would probably be a bad idea for attendances.
Fermanagh have had to win 3 games to get to this stage. What was the point of bringing New York over for a hammering?
Down huge favourites to lift a 2nd title, they shouldn't even be in it really. Draw on Monday morning probably." Limerick got to the final of TC last season. The two teams that beat limerick( both had home advantage) are still in the competition.
Clare were in the Sam Maguire competition last season. What division are Antrim in?
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 547 - 06/06/2026 21:52:04
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