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Small Anomaly In Sam Maguire Qualification Rules

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "
Replying To CastleBravo:  "The new Football Championship setup really seems to be stimulating people's imaginations in making up unlikely scenarios. Since I've too much time on my hands I actually started looking through the records to see if I could find a time when this would ever have come into play, and since the league began in 1925-26 there have been 0 occasions where the reigning All Ireland champion both failed to make their provincial final <b>and </b> weren't among the top 15 teams in the league. There's a chance Cork finished low in the 1945-46 league as AI champs, but the league was geographically split instead of by division, and I can't find any finished table so it's impossible to tell. Next most likely suspect is 1992, when Down lost the Ulster Semi Final, and only finished 5th in their group in a wacky 3 group 18 team Div. 1. Might have still made Sam though. So in 100 years of NFL play, there's no clear cut cases of this "anomaly" happening. And even less chance today when teams know what's at stake."</div>One of the things I like about this post is that, even though the previous posters sarcastically suggested that this was some urgent matter for me that was keeping me awake at night, someone actually went out and researched it a little. So kudos to you. But my point was that it's a quick, harmless fix that can come from anyone, and I'm pretty sure that a few years ago someone in GAA administration cobbled together a few motions where there technicalities that needed tidying up, and they all got voted in almost unanimously in the space of a few minutes. So something like this has happened before."
If I'm included in the bit about "sarcastically", then I apologise, as it wasn't intended that way. Looking back on my first post here, it certainly comes across worse than I meant it.

But as one who used to be involved in admin at a fairly high level, it still grates a bit sometimes when somebody says "they need to fix this" or "something needs to be done", when they have both the power and means themself to kickstart the process to have that thing done.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3648 - 18/05/2026 11:41:26    2673806

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "[quote=CastleBravo:  "The new Football Championship setup really seems to be stimulating people's imaginations in making up unlikely scenarios. Since I've too much time on my hands I actually started looking through the records to see if I could find a time when this would ever have come into play, and since the league began in 1925-26 there have been 0 occasions where the reigning All Ireland champion both failed to make their provincial final <b>and </b> weren't among the top 15 teams in the league. There's a chance Cork finished low in the 1945-46 league as AI champs, but the league was geographically split instead of by division, and I can't find any finished table so it's impossible to tell. Next most likely suspect is 1992, when Down lost the Ulster Semi Final, and only finished 5th in their group in a wacky 3 group 18 team Div. 1. Might have still made Sam though. So in 100 years of NFL play, there's no clear cut cases of this "anomaly" happening. And even less chance today when teams know what's at stake."</div>One of the things I like about this post is that, even though the previous posters sarcastically suggested that this was some urgent matter for me that was keeping me awake at night, someone actually went out and researched it a little. So kudos to you. But my point was that it's a quick, harmless fix that can come from anyone, and I'm pretty sure that a few years ago someone in GAA administration cobbled together a few motions where there technicalities that needed tidying up, and they all got voted in almost unanimously in the space of a few minutes. So something like this has happened before."
If I'm included in the bit about "sarcastically", then I apologise, as it wasn't intended that way. Looking back on my first post here, it certainly comes across worse than I meant it.

But as one who used to be involved in admin at a fairly high level, it still grates a bit sometimes when somebody says "they need to fix this" or "something needs to be done", when they have both the power and means themself to kickstart the process to have that thing done."]Actually looking back, your post was grand, so apologies for the insinuation.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1301 - 18/05/2026 23:28:28    2674036

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