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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "To clarify a couple of things re train transportation near Croke Park.

Drumcomdra railway station is on the Sligo/Maynooth line heading for Connolly Station. This line passes Croke Park behind Hill 16. This line has served Croke Park for years and there is often a long Q on match days at Drumcondra Station. (Well managed by CIE with safety barriers)

There is a second railway line at the Canal end of Croke Park that comes from Heuston Station and the tunnel under the Pheonix Park. There is no railway station very near Croke Park for this line. The only place the two railway lines are in close proximity to each other is at the far end of Whitworth Road (near Des Kelly's/ Brian Boru Pub) where a new and very large Metro Station will hopefully be built. It would be expected that many GAA supporters would arrive at this station in the future from several directions.

It would make a lot of sense to have a frequent railway shuttle service from this metro station to Croke Park or Drumcondra station on match days whenever it is built, as it is a long (wet?) walk for older people. They might have to open a new station near the Canal end for this shuttle service, so there would not have an ongoing impact on the Sligo railway line.
Don't think this idea was discussed in the metro planning?

If they can open a new railway station for a few days of the Ryder Cup why not also for Croke Park (Ongoing Match days/concerts/conferences etc)
Sorry for being do long winded."
Well, at least that explains the original query of why there's no service between Heuston and Drumcondra on match days.

Long story short is that there's no line between both places.

Thanks for the info.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3636 - 15/05/2026 16:33:51    2673199

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Will admit I didn't realise they use that sort of queueing system at Drumcondra Station on match days. I've only ever been there at "ordinary" weekday times.

Doubt though that there are many there to wait for a train just to Connolly. That's where the Wexford terminates, and I often land in there myself on All-Ireland days (but sadly, no Wexford team involved in them!). The walk to Croke Park is just 20 minutes, and particularly if you want to stop into a shop or a pub along the way, people are far more inclined to just walk it rather than look for another train.

Would be the same on the way back - may as well just walk down to Connolly rather than queue at Drumcondra to get a train for just one stop, and then queue again to get on another one.

But anyway - have been dragged down some odd rabbit holes since I first started posting on this site, but never found myself thinking about train stations and railway platforms before. Maybe time to leave it so!"
Connolly can be a good alternative after some games where it can be a long wait for supporters queuing for the Maynooth train. You're pretty much guaranteed a seat too. Can be a bit mad queuing in Drumcondra to get into the station and up on the platform. The trains to Croke Park from Maynooth can be too packed, especially for older people and if you're bringing children. Not sure why or how they manage to squeeze people in at some stages after Confey. Doesn't look safe.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8562 - 15/05/2026 17:50:45    2673219

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Well, at least that explains the original query of why there's no service between Heuston and Drumcondra on match days.

Long story short is that there's no line between both places.

Thanks for the info."
There's IS a direct route from Heuston to Drumcondra and vice versa.

A commuter train goes from Dublin Connolly via Drumcondra & Heuston to Hazelhatch and vice versa during the week. It doesn't explain why there's no service on matchdays, much like in the same way you can't get a train to the Docklands at the weekend either. The gas thing is that there would be plenty of space for a station at the back of the handball alley which, if used with Drumcondra, would be a game changer. Whether it would be financially viable to have a station is one thing as it would require a serious level of engineering to make it work but it would be possible. If the DART underground ever sees the light of day, it might be worth doing but I can't see it happening unless a bigger project gets the go ahead.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2044 - 17/05/2026 17:22:16    2673587

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Replying To Square_B:  "There's IS a direct route from Heuston to Drumcondra and vice versa.

A commuter train goes from Dublin Connolly via Drumcondra & Heuston to Hazelhatch and vice versa during the week. It doesn't explain why there's no service on matchdays, much like in the same way you can't get a train to the Docklands at the weekend either. The gas thing is that there would be plenty of space for a station at the back of the handball alley which, if used with Drumcondra, would be a game changer. Whether it would be financially viable to have a station is one thing as it would require a serious level of engineering to make it work but it would be possible. If the DART underground ever sees the light of day, it might be worth doing but I can't see it happening unless a bigger project gets the go ahead."
I dunno.

Have just gone onto the Irish Rail website and put in that I want to travel from Connolly to Hazelhatch on a random day this week (I went for Wednesday). Most of the options it gives me are to first get the LUAS to Heuston and take a train from there. No mention of a train via Drumcondra to Heuston.

For the odd one that does mention Drumcondra, the next stop is Park West and Cherry Orchard. That's a good bit further out than Heuston. And from there, it goes Clondalkin Fonthill - Kishoge - Adamstown - Hazelhatch. No mention of it going via Heuston.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3636 - 17/05/2026 18:54:47    2673614

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I dunno.

Have just gone onto the Irish Rail website and put in that I want to travel from Connolly to Hazelhatch on a random day this week (I went for Wednesday). Most of the options it gives me are to first get the LUAS to Heuston and take a train from there. No mention of a train via Drumcondra to Heuston.

For the odd one that does mention Drumcondra, the next stop is Park West and Cherry Orchard. That's a good bit further out than Heuston. And from there, it goes Clondalkin Fonthill - Kishoge - Adamstown - Hazelhatch. No mention of it going via Heuston."
The train doesn't currently stop at Heuston... it goes via Heuston. There's actually a platform at Heuston on the southbound journey to Hazelhatch, but it doesn't stop. The entire point is that a train could operate all the way to Drumcondra from the Heuston side and particularly on matchdays from further out. With a little bit of investment, a northbound platform could be developed if required. In fairness, you'd be asking Irish Rail to think outside the box which would be tough for them at the best of times.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2044 - 17/05/2026 20:00:04    2673642

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Replying To Square_B:  "The train doesn't currently stop at Heuston... it goes via Heuston. There's actually a platform at Heuston on the southbound journey to Hazelhatch, but it doesn't stop. The entire point is that a train could operate all the way to Drumcondra from the Heuston side and particularly on matchdays from further out. With a little bit of investment, a northbound platform could be developed if required. In fairness, you'd be asking Irish Rail to think outside the box which would be tough for them at the best of times."
Again, I dunno. I've never been on a train travelling from Drumcondra to Hazelhatch, so can't say for sure.

What I do know is that the maps on both the Irish Rail site for that trip, and on Google Maps too, don't show that route as going through Heuston, and it passes a distance to the west of it instead.

Maybe those maps don't reflect reality, but would seem strange that if a train passes through Heuston, that it wouldn't stop there.

Am much more familiar with Connolly Station, since that's where the Wexford train operates from. Am unaware for example of any train simply passing through there but not stopping there. But now I'll maybe be hit with examples of ones that do just that!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3636 - 18/05/2026 09:39:01    2673744

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Again, I dunno. I've never been on a train travelling from Drumcondra to Hazelhatch, so can't say for sure.

What I do know is that the maps on both the Irish Rail site for that trip, and on Google Maps too, don't show that route as going through Heuston, and it passes a distance to the west of it instead.

Maybe those maps don't reflect reality, but would seem strange that if a train passes through Heuston, that it wouldn't stop there.

Am much more familiar with Connolly Station, since that's where the Wexford train operates from. Am unaware for example of any train simply passing through there but not stopping there. But now I'll maybe be hit with examples of ones that do just that!"
I regularly get the train westwards from Drumcondra and you are correct in noting that a lot of the people here talking about running trains from Hueston have a pretty odd view of the logistics. As far as I can tell at least.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4302 - 18/05/2026 10:12:23    2673750

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I regularly get the train westwards from Drumcondra and you are correct in noting that a lot of the people here talking about running trains from Hueston have a pretty odd view of the logistics. As far as I can tell at least."
I've seen trains to Newbridge passing through Drumcondra while waiting for Sligo line trains.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 567 - 18/05/2026 11:02:10    2673774

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Replying To Square_B:  "There's IS a direct route from Heuston to Drumcondra and vice versa.

A commuter train goes from Dublin Connolly via Drumcondra & Heuston to Hazelhatch and vice versa during the week. It doesn't explain why there's no service on matchdays, much like in the same way you can't get a train to the Docklands at the weekend either. The gas thing is that there would be plenty of space for a station at the back of the handball alley which, if used with Drumcondra, would be a game changer. Whether it would be financially viable to have a station is one thing as it would require a serious level of engineering to make it work but it would be possible. If the DART underground ever sees the light of day, it might be worth doing but I can't see it happening unless a bigger project gets the go ahead."
There is no DIRECT train from Drumcondra railway station to Heuston railway station. See my previous post for the reasons. (Two different railways lines both ends of Croke Park).

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 910 - 18/05/2026 11:11:52    2673786

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I regularly get the train westwards from Drumcondra and you are correct in noting that a lot of the people here talking about running trains from Hueston have a pretty odd view of the logistics. As far as I can tell at least."
The trains wouldn't be running from Heuston per se, however it would be possible as I've outlined. Certainly anyone coming on special trains to Croke Park from further afield should have the option of going direct to Drumcondra.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2044 - 18/05/2026 12:34:45    2673835

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "There is no DIRECT train from Drumcondra railway station to Heuston railway station. See my previous post for the reasons. (Two different railways lines both ends of Croke Park)."
But there's a DIRECT ROUTE between the two... and a platform on the southbound line at Heuston. Special match day trains from any starting point that terminates in Heuston could be directed to Drumcondra on match days... if Irish Rail were bothered to put on a train to accommodate fans.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2044 - 18/05/2026 12:49:51    2673847

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