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Replying To StoreysTash: "Apart from Rossiter what is the rest of the management team this year? Google no help." Shane O'Brien and Shane Keegan anyway.
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Apart from Rossiter what is the rest of the management team this year? Google no help." We didnt get either of the lead coaches we wanted afaik. So the other coaches had to step up. Shane O'Brien and Shane Keegan were the coaches. Noel Carton came in later. There's a selector from Rathnure, can't remember his name.
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There is a year or two in all those players mentioned, it will depend on injuries and who is the management team. If it's rossiter i think they will all go
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1221 - 17/05/2026 12:58:16
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Replying To Spuds&GAA: "Don't understand what you are trying to say here lad to be honest…Are you on the Galway management team? you seem to know what's going on between Galway's Senior & U20 Management teams!! " They were trying to manage Senior lads" "They were told when to bring Rabbitte on" "And their U20 management thought they were going to lose game" That's a huge reach to try prove something.
Either way Aaron Niland and Jason Rabbitte started for Galway seniors this evening and didn't start the U20 against Wexford on Wednesday night.
And Certainly Don't understand the comparison you trying to make about Sean O Brien/Rhys Wickham!!!???" Niland was carrying a knock and wasnt risked Wednesday according to friends I have up there.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 13:14:37
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Last post of the night.
Since Wexford won their last All-Ireland in 1996, every real hurling county has won an All-Ireland at some level. Offaly won senior and u20 All-Irelands, Waterford won minor in last couple of years, Clare have been up the Hogan stand three times since, Limerick have filled their boots, Galway have umpteen underage and a senior All-Ireland.
In those 30 years we have won correct if wrong 6 x Leinster U20/21's (and three of those were in 3 years), and one minor Leinster. And in the 2 U20 finals we were resoundly beaten, beaten by Antrim another year, and the minors were hockeyed by Galway in the semi final.
That is a diabolical record, to call a spade a spade. How can we honestly believe we should be competing for senior honours with that record? I think we are delusional as a county but the hard facts are staring us in the face.
And no All-Ireland in that time yet talk to anybody old enough to remember 1996 they'll bore you with story after story about it. Its 30 years ago, why didn't you create the next generation in the meantime?
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2050 - 17/05/2026 13:18:05
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Replying To Goreylad1985: "6 teams in Leinster and we just above 6th place barely! 11 teams in Liam MacCarthy and we are just above 11th place barely!! Thats the reality" Yep thats where we finished. You are some man for pointing out the obvious. How about a few ideas and solutions to help the situation?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 13:20:26
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Replying To Viking66: "We didnt get either of the lead coaches we wanted afaik. So the other coaches had to step up. Shane O'Brien and Shane Keegan were the coaches. Noel Carton came in later. There's a selector from Rathnure, can't remember his name." Andy Ronan
OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 358 - 17/05/2026 13:21:23
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Yeah, I know people take issue with our underage results and while they're not where they need to be if we've AI aspirations, they're better than Joe McDonagh level and shouldn't even be that far off Leinster Final level
It's not as if there's a world of difference between Dublin's underage results and ours and I still don't think they'd be miles ahead of us if we had a full pick, crazy thing is that I think if we were had a full pick next year and got a good manager in, I think we wouldn't even be that far off winning Leinster" We need a lot more from those lads 22-25. Just looking through our u20 team that lost to Offaly in 2023 and 2019 minor team, we seem to have lost a lot of players. Lawlor, Molloy, Cian Byrne, Redmond, Carley, Foley, Rowley all should be further along in their development. Would be a lot easier coming into a team with an experienced spine but conditioning wise alone that group are a long way off Cork or Limerick.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 575 - 17/05/2026 13:22:59
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Replying To beano: "The fact that our corner back finished as our top scorer from play (fair dues to him) and we were outscored 2-11 to 1-3 in the second half sums up another dark championship day.
We were extremely unlucky to lose our two defensive lynchpins to injury, but that doesn't excuse two lapses in conceding the goals again. I don't even blame Foley- he has had numerous opportunities now to iron out naive play yes, but he isn't a like-for-like replacement for the role Reck was playing at all and it was bad from management to throw him into the deep-end after dropping him initially. Thought O'Leary and Lawlor showed decent leadership in the face of it all.
God be with the days Mac used to get criticised in here for actually being able to win ball inside and chip in with the odd score. We have no full-forward at the moment, Jacko is not the same post-injury and probably still best as an impact sub. We created problems by running at Offaly, just don't have the scoring pedigree to trouble most sides.
I dread to think what's coming our way now with Galway needing to win and us likely down a few defenders. Don't sense a morale victory. We're lucky to have the head-to-head advantage over Kildare, which is an indictment in and of itself.
As I write this, Tipp are on the brink of exiting the championship too. At least we are as good as the reigning All-Ireland champions, how did we fare against them in under-14?" Up until this year they had 120 lads to our 48 at u14. This year we do have an extended panel of 120, though they arent getting together very often. We havent played them this year yet at u14, but last years u14s won 3 out of 4 games against a combined team of 2 of Tipps divisions, with a few extra players from the other 2 divisions as they were missing alot of lads on the day. Not sure we played the other 2. They are organised in 4 divisions of 30 lads. North, Central, West and South.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 13:27:24
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Don't know what to say lads. Just feeling really low now." Me too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 13:27:49
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Replying To beano: "Yes, still naive which is remarkable considering the amount of chances a lot of the lads have had now. We always seem to have a brainfart or two in us in the lead-up to goals in every game.
It says it all though that our corner-back was our top scorer from play and we were outscored by 2-11 to 1-3 after half-time. We are steeped to hold the head-to-head against Kildare, who we struggled to put away more than any of the subsequent teams that played them.
Very unfortunate to lose our two defensive pillars to injury, and I shudder at the prospect of a hammering to Galway now if them two are out considering they lost today and will surely be hunting for a backlash.
God be with the days Mac got criticism on here when he could at least win his own ball inside. We have zero full-forward now. Jacko isn't the same post-injury and is probably still best as an impact sub." Here are some of the issues I think need addressed. In no particular order-
1- our tactical set up and coaching at Senior was poor. We are taking too many passes to work the ball out from the back because we are starting too far back the pitch, on our 21. We have a keeper who can't ping the ball into a teammates hand while he is running for the ball 45- 60 metres up the pitch with an opponent a few steps behind him. So we are conceding more turnovers when trying to play a short game.
And we dont look like we have put enough time into practicing long puckouts, ours or our opponents, there are basic fundamentals like getting lads on the quarters for the breaks which just arent happening.
So we have little chance of winning and retaining primary possession.
2- We seem hung up on putting round pegs in square holes when it comes to team selection.
3- No other county has as many lads under 32 that actually left the panel when they were a championship starter on it.
4- Alot of our better prospects haven't fully committed, or havent committed at all.
5- There have been numerous rumours of bad man management.
6- There has been a chronic lack of public support for our Intercounty hurlers for many years now.
7- We were hampered by minors not playing club adult, which hindered their development. At least this problem is now rectified going forwards.
8- we need to convince more of our best young players to concentrate on hurling, rather than playing 3 or 4 sports and ending up not hurling at all, or burning themselves out by the time they are 20, if not younger.
9- we have no local college, which doesn't help get younger lads to commit to intercounty due to the excessive travelling it involves. Hopefully SETU Wexford gets expanded and gets its new campus sooner rather than later.
10- some of our clubs and most of our schools just arent providing enough coaching contacts, and in some cases quality of coaching is a big issue.
11- we arent getting enough top coaches involved with our county teams at all levels.
Its actually a miracle we werent beaten by larger margins this year. And some of those issues will continue to hold us back regardless of who our management team will be next year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 13:49:53
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Replying To Timbertony: "It's hardly even a new low? Pathetic second half performance. If there's a positive let's hear it" Only positive is Offaly showed that it's possible to turn a demise around which is what this is now unfortunately, 2019 the night we qualified for a Leinster final, they were relegated to the Christy ring…fast forward 7 years later and we seem to be going in polar opposites. Will be no overnight fix either.
Stating the obvious and probably like a broken record, but until we're seeing success at underage like we did in the 2010s, nights like last night will be the norm unfortunately.
OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 358 - 17/05/2026 13:57:30
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "With the greatest degree of respect, no-one is suggesting that everything is wonderful at underage level and your comment seems directed at one poster in particular
And Carley played well too tbf to him, not a corner-back but your comment yesterday was unnecessary" Carley is a decent player, needs to get his confidence back, and plays better further up the pitch. Best game I ever saw him play was at wing forward for dcu. I get that hes not particularly tall, so maybe that might not be his best position at Senior intercounty, but he might make a midfielder down the line.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 13:57:34
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Replying To OpenStandWall: "As regards this evening, injuries in particular Carley and Jippo didn't help and when we went down to 14 men it felt like the writing was on the wall.
Overall, every year post Davy has been another step further back away from the pack rather than a step forward, and a campaign this poor this felt like it was coming down the road. There's been at least one if not two pretty harrowing results in each of those seasons since to back that up also, and retired players in that time haven't been replaced. Cant be sugarcoated either, in these 4 years, we've had two championship wins of note which both came on the back of disastrous performances vs Joe Mc calibre teams.
Putting it bluntly and don't think I'm being overly negative - god knows where it goes from here next year and beyond, and the knock on affect this has on hurling in the county, this really feels like we're slipping if not already slipped back in to the dog days of 15 years ago, there'll be no quick fixes to our issues either as Offaly showed." I think the 2 Recks injuries were just as big a loss, or bigger, as Carleys and Jippos. We were missing 4 of our starting back 6 for most of the 2nd half. We were missing 1 of them for the whole game, and another for most of the game.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 14:01:42
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Replying To Timbertony: "We need a lot more from those lads 22-25. Just looking through our u20 team that lost to Offaly in 2023 and 2019 minor team, we seem to have lost a lot of players. Lawlor, Molloy, Cian Byrne, Redmond, Carley, Foley, Rowley all should be further along in their development. Would be a lot easier coming into a team with an experienced spine but conditioning wise alone that group are a long way off Cork or Limerick." Rowley is 21 and missed games during the league because of a concussion, last night was Molloy's first game back all season, last night was also Cian Byron's first Championship appearance all season and he didn't play that much in the league either, Lawlor played well enough last night IMO as did Carley
Molloy actually looked like a unit last night when he came on, he's really filled out, Carley' S&C work has come on a good bit since last year, Rowley has done decent enough work too, he's on the right track physically
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 17/05/2026 14:06:37
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Replying To Viking66: "Up until this year they had 120 lads to our 48 at u14. This year we do have an extended panel of 120, though they arent getting together very often. We havent played them this year yet at u14, but last years u14s won 3 out of 4 games against a combined team of 2 of Tipps divisions, with a few extra players from the other 2 divisions as they were missing alot of lads on the day. Not sure we played the other 2. They are organised in 4 divisions of 30 lads. North, Central, West and South." Was that a mixed Wexford team that beat them or was it a Wexford A team?
And what sort of team did Tipp have out in the Celtic Challenge team that beat us by two points a few weeks ago?
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 17/05/2026 14:09:13
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Replying To OpenStandWall: "Only positive is Offaly showed that it's possible to turn a demise around which is what this is now unfortunately, 2019 the night we qualified for a Leinster final, they were relegated to the Christy ring…fast forward 7 years later and we seem to be going in polar opposites. Will be no overnight fix either.
Stating the obvious and probably like a broken record, but until we're seeing success at underage like we did in the 2010s, nights like last night will be the norm unfortunately." Tbf, that Offaly team was a bit of a one-off at Minor and U20, they're turned it around more down to luck than proper structures (Or at least that's how it seems to me)
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 17/05/2026 14:15:01
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Replying To Doylerwex: "I would say this is our worst season in 17 years. We need to throw absolutely everything at getting back to 1a next year. That I think is why Offaly have taken a leap this year" We have had worse seasons in the last 17 years Doyler.
2020 was very poor we lost all our games.
2010 was worse, played 2 lost 2 in championship, by an aggregate 25 points. Both losses by double digits.
2011 wasnt much better, the only team we beat was Antrim.
2012 we got knocked out of Leinster by a really poor Offaly team in our only game. We beat Westmeath and Carlow but then lost to Cork by double digits.
2013 we at least pushed the eventual AI Champions all the way, but we got well beaten by Dublin in the replay in our only Leinster fixture.
2014 we had a bit of fun in the qualifiers, but again our Leinster campaign was nothing to write home about, beat Antrim and lost to Dublin.
2015 we beat Westmeath but lost to Kilkenny by around 25 points. We then lost to Cork by 8 points in our only qualifier.
2016 was maybe worse again, no win in Leinster and beaten by 13 points by Dublin, who then lost their next game by 12 points. We did beat Offaly and Cork in the qualifiers, before another double digits loss, this time to Waterford.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 14:18:25
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Unfortunately, I don't think Chin is quite the same player he used to be, still a good player and no player has contributed more to Wexford hurling for such little reward but teams have been able to get a grip on him this year whereas previously, he was impossible to mark
Jippo has been a great servant to Wexford hurling as well and had been good in his starts this year but that's another campaign ended by injury and you wouldn't blame him for retiring, he owes us nothing and was giving us a dig out by even coming back
Fanning made a great save yesterday, has been another good servant, not going to say that he's without his faults, biggest problem right now is I'm not sure who replaces him as Lawlor is in Australia and I don't know whether Duggan would come back, we haven't managed that situation well in recent years
Jacko was always a very good club hurler but has blown hot and cold at county level, offers us size but he'll be 33 next year and it's hard to imagine he's suddenly going to stop blowing hot and cold
Simon Donohoe another good servant and a hardy buck who maybe never got the credit he deserved
Kevin Foley another great servant although I feel like having him and Simon Roche in the same team makes the other one a bit redundant as they are a bit too similar IMO, very good technical hurlers and smart but on the small side and not going to break away from someone with their speed
Shane Reck a top-class corner-back when fit but a bit like Jippo, he's missed a lot of games in the last few years, don't know whether he stays on
Would guess Damien Reck and Conor Hearne stay on
Chin the biggest loss and Jippo the next one after him, we didn't do a good job in the league at developing a new full-back so that's something we'll have to work on next year, the others have been good hurlers for Wexford but aren't irreplaceable at the same time, problem is the number of young, inexperienced players we'd have to blood in next year if those lads step away, hard to make progress when there's so much churn in a squad" Charlie Roark could become an excellent fullback
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19614 - 17/05/2026 14:24:09
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Yeah, I know people take issue with our underage results and while they're not where they need to be if we've AI aspirations, they're better than Joe McDonagh level and shouldn't even be that far off Leinster Final level
It's not as if there's a world of difference between Dublin's underage results and ours and I still don't think they'd be miles ahead of us if we had a full pick, crazy thing is that I think if we were had a full pick next year and got a good manager in, I think we wouldn't even be that far off winning Leinster" We could win Leinster with better management and more of our better players committing.
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