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Replying To Lockjaw: "I never really got the obsession with comparing hurling with football. Two vastly different sports. Hurling is way more helter-skelter than football and there are more one-on-one duals to win possession. Each to their own." Hurling has a different problem with points scored at ease from all angles and distances. Maybe a 5-pts goal might cure this.
I wonder if the two-pts arc could be used 'in reverse' in hurling - a 2-pointer from 'inside the arc' after an Advanced Mark (a '40/40, akin to football's '45/20', but from inside the defensive arc to inside the attacking one, a puck of 65m or so).
omahant (USA) - Posts: 3357 - 18/07/2025 22:23:47
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It has been a great year of football. From the national football league, provincial championships, Tailteann Cup, All Ireland championship, county/club championships and on to provincial club championships - since the end of January to mid December we have been spoilt with great football. It has been absolutely fantastic. The poor hurling folk have had as much to cheer about. Football has rounded off 2025 as the top dog!
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9313 - 14/12/2025 10:27:36
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Replying To legendzxix: "It has been a great year of football. From the national football league, provincial championships, Tailteann Cup, All Ireland championship, county/club championships and on to provincial club championships - since the end of January to mid December we have been spoilt with great football. It has been absolutely fantastic. The poor hurling folk have had as much to cheer about. Football has rounded off 2025 as the top dog!" Football is watchable again.
Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 278 - 14/12/2025 16:43:56
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Replying To legendzxix: "It has been a great year of football. From the national football league, provincial championships, Tailteann Cup, All Ireland championship, county/club championships and on to provincial club championships - since the end of January to mid December we have been spoilt with great football. It has been absolutely fantastic. The poor hurling folk have had as much to cheer about. Football has rounded off 2025 as the top dog!" Enjoyed the Football this year for sure. Only rule tweak Id like to see would be some sort of handpassing restrictions, but not absolutely certain what. Maybe handpassing only allowed in a forwards direction?
There's been great hurling too! Leinster club championship was brilliant, plenty close games Senior, Intermediate and Junior. Looking forward to the AI series now!
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Replying To Viking66: "Enjoyed the Football this year for sure. Only rule tweak Id like to see would be some sort of handpassing restrictions, but not absolutely certain what. Maybe handpassing only allowed in a forwards direction?
There's been great hurling too! Leinster club championship was brilliant, plenty close games Senior, Intermediate and Junior. Looking forward to the AI series now!" "If you receive a handpass you can not give a handless".
What could be simpler?
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Well actually I'm a hurling man through and through and couldnt bear to watch the boring rubbish gaelic football had become for most of the previous 20 years but this year I'm fully engrossed in the football championship. I've no problem admitting that the football championship has been infinitely more entertaining. Even heard Shane McGrath, ex-Tipp hurler and current RTE hurling pundit, say as much in an off the cuff remark on radio a couple of weeks ago.
What's more -- and as a hurling man I never thought in a million years I would ever say this --- i think gaelic football is a better product than hurling at the moment and I expect this situation to continue into next year and in the years to come. My love of hurling has diminished quite a lot in recent years --- too many hurling people will brook no criticism of the game and for me the game is being tarnished by current interpretation and application of the handpass. I dont think anyone can deny that a large percentage of handpasses APPEAR to be throws. If they appear to be throws they should be whistled as throws -- if a CLEAR STRIKING ACTION by the hand and separation of ball from hand is not visible to the naked eye it should be called a foul. But of course we are told it's just the speed of execution that makes most of them appear to be throws and referees are afraid to call them as throws as tv pundits will highlight in slow motion replays of incidents where technically they call it wrong. As a Kilkenny man said to me recently when we were discussing this , either change the rule and allow throwing of the sliotar all the time or apply the rule as written and call any handpass that APPEARS to be a throw as a foul.
Gaelic football has faced up to its issues and has developed into a wonderful product as a result of the new rules. I wish hurling would do the same." Why not ban the hurling handpass, entirely.
It's hardly a great skill.
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Did you mean to say "Handball"?
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Replying To Aibrean: ""If you receive a handpass you can not give a handless".
What could be simpler?" Forward handpasses shouldn't be restricted. The problem with handpasses in Football is that many are backwards with the sole aim of retaining possession, rather than creating a score.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17794 - 14/12/2025 22:14:15
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Replying To Aibrean: "Why not ban the hurling handpass, entirely.
It's hardly a great skill." I agree handpassing has got so fast that its hard to police. So I think underarm throwing should be legalized. Hurling doesn't have the same problem as Football with multiple handpasses purely with the aim of keeping possession for many minutes on end in order to restrict your opponent from scoring. It's easier to block handpasses with the hurl compared to blocking them with just your hands. You have 3 feet of extension both sides.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17794 - 14/12/2025 22:20:24
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Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "Will they ever admit it?
I doubt they will, but football has been infinitely more entertaining than hurling this year.
If Jim Gavin isn't saving the Dubs, he's saving the very game itself!
What a man!!!" Football is never better than Hurling Pal:-)
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Well actually I'm a hurling man through and through and couldnt bear to watch the boring rubbish gaelic football had become for most of the previous 20 years but this year I'm fully engrossed in the football championship. I've no problem admitting that the football championship has been infinitely more entertaining. Even heard Shane McGrath, ex-Tipp hurler and current RTE hurling pundit, say as much in an off the cuff remark on radio a couple of weeks ago.
What's more -- and as a hurling man I never thought in a million years I would ever say this --- i think gaelic football is a better product than hurling at the moment and I expect this situation to continue into next year and in the years to come. My love of hurling has diminished quite a lot in recent years --- too many hurling people will brook no criticism of the game and for me the game is being tarnished by current interpretation and application of the handpass. I dont think anyone can deny that a large percentage of handpasses APPEAR to be throws. If they appear to be throws they should be whistled as throws -- if a CLEAR STRIKING ACTION by the hand and separation of ball from hand is not visible to the naked eye it should be called a foul. But of course we are told it's just the speed of execution that makes most of them appear to be throws and referees are afraid to call them as throws as tv pundits will highlight in slow motion replays of incidents where technically they call it wrong. As a Kilkenny man said to me recently when we were discussing this , either change the rule and allow throwing of the sliotar all the time or apply the rule as written and call any handpass that APPEARS to be a throw as a foul.
Gaelic football has faced up to its issues and has developed into a wonderful product as a result of the new rules. I wish hurling would do the same." Id agree about the hand pass and we need to look at It.
But football for all its improvements was not infinitely more entertaining.We can argue all day about individual matches but as GAA people isn't it great that now we have two fantastic sports and let's enjoy both and know how privileged we are.
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The handpass should be outlawed in hurling and in football
alalalalalum (USA) - Posts: 178 - 15/12/2025 11:52:18
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People suggesting handpassing should be banned. The level of stupidity on here at times is unbelievable.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8677 - 15/12/2025 13:16:52
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This has to be rage bait
DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 329 - 15/12/2025 13:48:02
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Love both games.
Both entertaining this year football has improved since new rules and tweaks .
It's a pity the hurling purists can't seem to see any problems with the game .
Improvements could be made by tweaking some of the rules . Adopting some of new football rules I d think the cynical play in hurling should be looked at and some sort of black card/sinbin introduced . How many probable goal chances are stopped long befire they get inside the 45 never mind the 20m line .
The handpass ,tackling the ball hand ,not to mention rucks , swarm tackles. . No player should be able to put ball over the bar from 80 mtrs plus. Unless gael force wind assisted . Create a game with more goal chances and less cynical play . And give cards for feigning injury or trying buy frees diving around like they re in the premiership. . To put just few problems that need looking at imho
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Replying To Formertownie: "Love both games.
Both entertaining this year football has improved since new rules and tweaks .
It's a pity the hurling purists can't seem to see any problems with the game .
Improvements could be made by tweaking some of the rules . Adopting some of new football rules I d think the cynical play in hurling should be looked at and some sort of black card/sinbin introduced . How many probable goal chances are stopped long befire they get inside the 45 never mind the 20m line .
The handpass ,tackling the ball hand ,not to mention rucks , swarm tackles. . No player should be able to put ball over the bar from 80 mtrs plus. Unless gael force wind assisted . Create a game with more goal chances and less cynical play . And give cards for feigning injury or trying buy frees diving around like they re in the premiership. . To put just few problems that need looking at imho" Agree about the cards for diving, there could be retrospective bans also?
There is a black card in hurling, but its hard enough to enforce as it is, within the 21.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17794 - 15/12/2025 15:46:43
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Definitely better than it has been but still two speeds. Dead slow and stopped. Thankfully better but better than hurling is a stretch. Always was and always will be. Anyway two different games that the biggest thing in common are the goal posts.
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Replying To TheFlaker: "People suggesting handpassing should be banned. The level of stupidity on here at times is unbelievable." What's your argument for keeping it. Do you enjoy the ball going back and forth amongst a team in their own half?
alalalalalum (USA) - Posts: 178 - 15/12/2025 16:24:42
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