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Replying To BostonGuy: "Lets not get carried away here and put a Halo on Cunningham, he was/is a decent manager. Remember there was a revolt to get rid of him and MD was appointed. MD brought in a serious S&C guy who I think made a huge difference, he won in 2017 and was a puck away form winning in 2018. Joe Canning was a big part of why they were successful and we had the raw material there. MD "tweaked it", roving Joe Canning and a young Conor Whelan, a Conor Cooney who could score and a huge blocker with Gearoid Mac in the center, like a Brian Hogan not a great hurler but hard to get past. Point is we had a solid team for a number of years but couldn't get over the line. I think Henry will be proven to be a good manager in the future, he simply did not have the talent, neither does MD right now and it starts out with Minor and U 20 if we plan to be competitive in 4 years. There are so many kids hurling in Galway, by law of averages there has to be some raw talent we should be able to harness but it has to start now with U16, 18 and 20 we can forget about seniors for a while. TBH I would prefer to see Galway win a couple of underage titles now than see Galway Seniors get to a semi or final and get hammered." You will be waiting for those underage titles. Galway U20s blown away Dublin, Minors blown away by Clare and the U16s will struggle too. I believe Saturday evening was one man's last appearance and that's why he started. A few more must go. MD needs to be ruthless. Make the big decisions and build but I don't think it's in him. His interviews would nearly put you asleep so I wonder what his motivational speeches are like before a big game. Maybe I'm being harsh.
Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 119 - 23/06/2025 16:07:29
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Replying To Armchairreporter: "You will be waiting for those underage titles. Galway U20s blown away Dublin, Minors blown away by Clare and the U16s will struggle too. I believe Saturday evening was one man's last appearance and that's why he started. A few more must go. MD needs to be ruthless. Make the big decisions and build but I don't think it's in him. His interviews would nearly put you asleep so I wonder what his motivational speeches are like before a big game. Maybe I'm being harsh." You're not being harsh at all only realistic. It's time to say goodbye to quite a few of the older worn out players. I hate to see them go but it's necessary if we are to develop a team in a few years.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2575 - 23/06/2025 18:48:20
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Well Wexico, two Limerick people commented on this issue and you jumped in and deemed they were sarcastic. I have just looked at what they said and yes it be can be said that Davy did transform Wexford and what BB said just reflected, what a lot of pundits say are features of the way teams trained by Davy are set up, for good or bad, and that is that it has proved very successful at times, as in '13 and not so successful on other occasions, like the '19 Semi Final, but ironically I feel that John Kiely and his selectors also got it all wrong against KK, in the other Semi Final that year also. There is every possibility that MC or BB were not being in any way sarcastic, only stating very creditable opinions on how Davy might do.
For what it is worth I think a big hurling county like Galway should have a home grown manager, who has a long term vision for hurling in his county. Limerick will be back in the pack in the next few years and we would always want as many as possible of the so called 'second level counties' seriously challenging the big three." What I thought strange was MD interview afterwards stating the Galway have taken a step forward from last year. I really fail to see that or was that trying to spin a positive?
It's a rebuild yes but you dropped all the young lads supposedly the green shoots for the older players near their end.
Personally I think the coaching of the team/lads is severely lacking. I stand corrected but I think Franny Forde is the main coach.
A huge winter needed of soul searching and change needed
1shot (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 23/06/2025 22:00:58
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Fact is we are not good enough and there will have to be alot of work put into this team. Unfortunately it will be the end for alot of the older lads (who absolutely owe nothing to galway at all) and it's sad to see them go out like this but the reality is that it will happen. MD has to be ruthless now. Blood in the young lads get them the experience let them learn and hopefully results will start going our way in the next 2-3 years. But it will be painful at first but hopefully that will change.
Another thing the style of hurling they play does not suit in my opinion any team that has pace causes galway alot of problems.
In the future there needs to be pace ,steel,creating goal chances and get out of the habit of relying on one player to do the work. This team needs to show some grit and a type of meanness.
Club championship is about 6 weeks or so away hopefully it's a good one and MD and management can unearth more players.
Lastly I do hope this doesn't have a negative effect on the supporters. Start of the year bellew and md were trying to rally the supporters to get back behind the team but unfortunately the way this yesr has gone i think there has been damage done to the supporters and it will take awhile to get them back behind the team again. I hope I'm wrong but for now we look forward to the club championship and see what happens next year
Off_the_post (Galway) - Posts: 9 - 24/06/2025 00:09:58
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Replying To Armchairreporter: "You will be waiting for those underage titles. Galway U20s blown away Dublin, Minors blown away by Clare and the U16s will struggle too. I believe Saturday evening was one man's last appearance and that's why he started. A few more must go. MD needs to be ruthless. Make the big decisions and build but I don't think it's in him. His interviews would nearly put you asleep so I wonder what his motivational speeches are like before a big game. Maybe I'm being harsh." I'm fairly sure that's not why he started. What a silly theory you have there. DB started v Dublin last month, and it didn't prove to be his last game. Played well that day too. DB got selected in the championship side this year, so your theory on why he started v Tipp is total nonsense.
Plus, if there's no underage titles in the pipeline as you say, where's the need for this 'ruthless' bs. Ruthlessly replace aged players with average players is it? Self evident that there's no rush with that, although it has to happen sooner rather than later now unfortunately.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4259 - 24/06/2025 08:36:09
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Replying To Armchairreporter: "You will be waiting for those underage titles. Galway U20s blown away Dublin, Minors blown away by Clare and the U16s will struggle too. I believe Saturday evening was one man's last appearance and that's why he started. A few more must go. MD needs to be ruthless. Make the big decisions and build but I don't think it's in him. His interviews would nearly put you asleep so I wonder what his motivational speeches are like before a big game. Maybe I'm being harsh." Could not fathom MD interview afterwards stating Galway took a step forward this year from last year.
He did replace the young lads with the older lads before the game. Is that not a step back?
Galway have to start looking at the coaching. There is no system and nobody knows what their role is.
1shot (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 24/06/2025 09:48:09
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Replying To Viking66: "Dubs were probably saving themselves, figured they didnt want to play Tipp then Cork. They often beat you, and beat Limerick this weekend. Only 2 points at the 65 minute mark in our game against you despite playing our worst game of the year. Hardly won 4 at a canter so." Yeah figured not Tipp. Figured they'd like Limerick. What a bs theory. We were level with Limerick after 70mins in both 2020 and 2022 semis, they won 4 in a row 2020-2023. Warming yourself with how close you got is a mug's game. Wexford and Dublin bet us well last year, and we deservedly bet both this year, that's the reality of 2024-2025.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4259 - 24/06/2025 10:08:40
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Replying To 1shot: "Could not fathom MD interview afterwards stating Galway took a step forward this year from last year.
He did replace the young lads with the older lads before the game. Is that not a step back?
Galway have to start looking at the coaching. There is no system and nobody knows what their role is." The players we have, and on all known knowledge, the player options we can bring in currently, aren't good enough to be top4. That's reality, nothing to do with MD, who he picks, who he doesn't pick, lack of systems of play. There wasn't a word about lack of systems or lack of roles, while we were winning 4 games in Leinster over sides that we can compete with. We make a qfinal, meet a superior Tipp side and lose. That's it in a nutshell.
The obvious step forward they took this year was that they beat sides that hammered us last year, like Dublin and Wexford, and retained div1 status in a highly competitive league format. The bottom line is that until we see green shoots, and I'm talking about 20 21 22 23 year old hurlers with massive talent, we'll be taking baby steps year on year at best.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4259 - 24/06/2025 10:24:46
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Yeah figured not Tipp. Figured they'd like Limerick. What a bs theory. We were level with Limerick after 70mins in both 2020 and 2022 semis, they won 4 in a row 2020-2023. Warming yourself with how close you got is a mug's game. Wexford and Dublin bet us well last year, and we deservedly bet both this year, that's the reality of 2024-2025." :-D
All true that post Pope, but if they were looking ahead they probably thought Limerick would win Munster.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16397 - 24/06/2025 11:20:05
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "The players we have, and on all known knowledge, the player options we can bring in currently, aren't good enough to be top4. That's reality, nothing to do with MD, who he picks, who he doesn't pick, lack of systems of play. There wasn't a word about lack of systems or lack of roles, while we were winning 4 games in Leinster over sides that we can compete with. We make a qfinal, meet a superior Tipp side and lose. That's it in a nutshell.
The obvious step forward they took this year was that they beat sides that hammered us last year, like Dublin and Wexford, and retained div1 status in a highly competitive league format. The bottom line is that until we see green shoots, and I'm talking about 20 21 22 23 year old hurlers with massive talent, we'll be taking baby steps year on year at best." Well when you have a manager who does not back youth or trust any green shoots like he did last Saturday evening you have not got the enviorment for any youth or green shoots to prosper and come through.
I would rather get beaten by 20pts and try bring young players through than reverting back.
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Replying To Armchairreporter: "You will be waiting for those underage titles. Galway U20s blown away Dublin, Minors blown away by Clare and the U16s will struggle too. I believe Saturday evening was one man's last appearance and that's why he started. A few more must go. MD needs to be ruthless. Make the big decisions and build but I don't think it's in him. His interviews would nearly put you asleep so I wonder what his motivational speeches are like before a big game. Maybe I'm being harsh." One of the few strong points in Galway Hurling right now is the schools. Presentation, St Raphael's, Gort CS, etc are putting out great teams. This should translate to success at the Minor Level "IF" the selectors are doing the right thing. I'd hate to think politics in selecting is holding us back.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2575 - 24/06/2025 12:01:31
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "The players we have, and on all known knowledge, the player options we can bring in currently, aren't good enough to be top4. That's reality, nothing to do with MD, who he picks, who he doesn't pick, lack of systems of play. There wasn't a word about lack of systems or lack of roles, while we were winning 4 games in Leinster over sides that we can compete with. We make a qfinal, meet a superior Tipp side and lose. That's it in a nutshell.
The obvious step forward they took this year was that they beat sides that hammered us last year, like Dublin and Wexford, and retained div1 status in a highly competitive league format. The bottom line is that until we see green shoots, and I'm talking about 20 21 22 23 year old hurlers with massive talent, we'll be taking baby steps year on year at best." Disagree. Never got carried away with the four wins. There is a distinct lack of strategy, a lack of basic competencies, a lack of fitness and a lack of positive risk taking in this management team from what I've seen so far this year.
BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 157 - 24/06/2025 12:13:53
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Replying To 1shot: "Well when you have a manager who does not back youth or trust any green shoots like he did last Saturday evening you have not got the enviorment for any youth or green shoots to prosper and come through.
I would rather get beaten by 20pts and try bring young players through than reverting back." I can't remember a young Galway senior team in 50 years, that took a 15-20 point beating, and developed positively from it within a season or two. 2010 u21 final perhaps, but that wasn't a senior match.These young fellas have to start showing form, like Molloy did in 2025 clearly. Picking players on birth certs and underage reputation won't cut it alone, they have to show the management that they've got what it takes.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4259 - 24/06/2025 13:18:49
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Replying To Trump2020: "One of the few strong points in Galway Hurling right now is the schools. Presentation, St Raphael's, Gort CS, etc are putting out great teams. This should translate to success at the Minor Level "IF" the selectors are doing the right thing. I'd hate to think politics in selecting is holding us back." Minor is schools junior teams these days. Good Schools Senior teams would be playing intercounty at u20. It's odd that you haven't been doing better at u20.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16397 - 24/06/2025 14:38:54
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So we look at Joe Cannin and Skittle as joint managers next year? They have all the answers
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Replying To Viking66: "Minor is schools junior teams these days. Good Schools Senior teams would be playing intercounty at u20. It's odd that you haven't been doing better at u20." I agree. We won 4 Minor All Irelands in a row yet it didn't translate to U20 and Senior success. Bizarre.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2575 - 24/06/2025 17:52:25
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Replying To Trump2020: "One of the few strong points in Galway Hurling right now is the schools. Presentation, St Raphael's, Gort CS, etc are putting out great teams. This should translate to success at the Minor Level "IF" the selectors are doing the right thing. I'd hate to think politics in selecting is holding us back." I believe the Pres won the Junior final this year against an average Raphaels. The match was ok. 13 of the starting 15 for the Pres were involved with this year's county minor panel and 1 sub for the Pres was involved. Nothing much translated from that team or the Senior Pres team for that matter. Winter hurling on bad pitches. It all changes when the ground firms up. Clare showed that in the minor and the Dubs in the U20.
Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 119 - 25/06/2025 01:44:47
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Replying To Armchairreporter: "I believe the Pres won the Junior final this year against an average Raphaels. The match was ok. 13 of the starting 15 for the Pres were involved with this year's county minor panel and 1 sub for the Pres was involved. Nothing much translated from that team or the Senior Pres team for that matter. Winter hurling on bad pitches. It all changes when the ground firms up. Clare showed that in the minor and the Dubs in the U20." Good point. Athenry nearly have to be 'good' these days with their numbers and catchment area. From a Galway minor perspective, Athenry would clearly need to be better in the circumstances.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4259 - 25/06/2025 09:59:53
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Replying To Armchairreporter: "I believe the Pres won the Junior final this year against an average Raphaels. The match was ok. 13 of the starting 15 for the Pres were involved with this year's county minor panel and 1 sub for the Pres was involved. Nothing much translated from that team or the Senior Pres team for that matter. Winter hurling on bad pitches. It all changes when the ground firms up. Clare showed that in the minor and the Dubs in the U20." Last year was the year to do it if Pres were going to win an all ireland. Gort CS will have a very good team on the way with the bulk of the Michael Cusacks team that won the county Féile and got to Div 1 all ireland semi final last week plus a bunch of Gort players on Galway underage squads.
galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 929 - 25/06/2025 10:11:43
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Replying To galway19: "Last year was the year to do it if Pres were going to win an all ireland. Gort CS will have a very good team on the way with the bulk of the Michael Cusacks team that won the county Féile and got to Div 1 all ireland semi final last week plus a bunch of Gort players on Galway underage squads." I agree about Presentation. That loss in the Final gutted me like no other. Absolutely gutted. Raphael's have come close too. I'd love to see Gort do it more than anything.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2575 - 25/06/2025 11:46:09
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