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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "County Chairman's term up this year too?"
Whoever the new chairperson will be, it is important to recognise that the chairman of the county board takes responsibility for a range of different activities and is it not just about the senior team. (Too simple an analysis by some when the senior team loses a couple of matches). Selection of minor and under 20 teams and a range other teams, development of Hyde Park, fundraising for the Dermot Earley Centre of Excellence and a wide selection of other activities. They also have to balance short term finances/goals etc with other medium term and long term goals and plans. I would not be envious of anyone who takes on the job.
A lot of work has been done in developing Hyde Park in recent years, Club Rossies have raised millions to help fund the development and underage is going well. Improvements are needed in certain areas but it certainly is not all doom and gloom in the county.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 740 - 19/05/2025 10:45:54    2610880

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Whoever the new chairperson will be, it is important to recognise that the chairman of the county board takes responsibility for a range of different activities and is it not just about the senior team. (Too simple an analysis by some when the senior team loses a couple of matches). Selection of minor and under 20 teams and a range other teams, development of Hyde Park, fundraising for the Dermot Earley Centre of Excellence and a wide selection of other activities. They also have to balance short term finances/goals etc with other medium term and long term goals and plans. I would not be envious of anyone who takes on the job.
A lot of work has been done in developing Hyde Park in recent years, Club Rossies have raised millions to help fund the development and underage is going well. Improvements are needed in certain areas but it certainly is not all doom and gloom in the county."
You are correct, it is a multi faceted job and there is more to it than the senior footballers. However, i think in hindsight the senior set up got bit shafted and there is a feeling a golden generation of players have been let slip through the cracks. Counties like Roscommon really have to make the most of talented pools of players when we do get them. I've no doubt in the ambition of the players, Ciaran Murtagh, Shane Killoran, Ronan Daly, John McManus, Cian McKeon didn't come back into the fold and make sacrifices to exit at a group stage.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 113 - 19/05/2025 12:41:29    2610930

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Whoever the new chairperson will be, it is important to recognise that the chairman of the county board takes responsibility for a range of different activities and is it not just about the senior team. (Too simple an analysis by some when the senior team loses a couple of matches). Selection of minor and under 20 teams and a range other teams, development of Hyde Park, fundraising for the Dermot Earley Centre of Excellence and a wide selection of other activities. They also have to balance short term finances/goals etc with other medium term and long term goals and plans. I would not be envious of anyone who takes on the job.
A lot of work has been done in developing Hyde Park in recent years, Club Rossies have raised millions to help fund the development and underage is going well. Improvements are needed in certain areas but it certainly is not all doom and gloom in the county."
Also needs to be taken into account that he was appointed chairman in the height of covid (December 2020) and apart from the nonsense tweets about Leeds United that nobody but Leeds fans care about He has done fine as county board chairman IMHO.

Under his watch he played his part in appointing all young energetic managers over our U17,U20 and senior teams. The underage teams have been ultra competitive picking up a few Connacht titles along the way. Davy Burke was given a 3rd year term. Year one we finished 3rd in Div 1 and missed out on a championship Quarter final by the skin of our teeth, Year 2 relegated back to Div 2 but reached All Ireland Quarter final. Year 3 so far has been promotion back to Div 1 and his championship will be judged on remaining games now and not what has gone before.

Under our chairman talk about upgrading Hyde Park was finally put into action and the COE will soon follow I believe. Yes we have Mr Mulryan to help out but that's mainly to keep us afloat and without the outstanding fundraising work we would be in trouble and we do not have the resources of some other counties to stock our management teams with top level coaches. That doesn't always prove to be a success either as seen with our neighbours Mayo with one of the most expensive and stocked senior management teams but too many cooks is spoiling their broth.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4053 - 19/05/2025 15:52:12    2611028

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Also needs to be taken into account that he was appointed chairman in the height of covid (December 2020) and apart from the nonsense tweets about Leeds United that nobody but Leeds fans care about He has done fine as county board chairman IMHO.

Under his watch he played his part in appointing all young energetic managers over our U17,U20 and senior teams. The underage teams have been ultra competitive picking up a few Connacht titles along the way. Davy Burke was given a 3rd year term. Year one we finished 3rd in Div 1 and missed out on a championship Quarter final by the skin of our teeth, Year 2 relegated back to Div 2 but reached All Ireland Quarter final. Year 3 so far has been promotion back to Div 1 and his championship will be judged on remaining games now and not what has gone before.

Under our chairman talk about upgrading Hyde Park was finally put into action and the COE will soon follow I believe. Yes we have Mr Mulryan to help out but that's mainly to keep us afloat and without the outstanding fundraising work we would be in trouble and we do not have the resources of some other counties to stock our management teams with top level coaches. That doesn't always prove to be a success either as seen with our neighbours Mayo with one of the most expensive and stocked senior management teams but too many cooks is spoiling their broth."
The Chairman of the Board is a voluntary role and it consumes a huge amount of the office holder's time.
I agree that progress has been made on a lot of matters under Brian Carroll's chairmanship. Progress on redeveloping Hyde Park, progress on the Dermot Earley Centre of excellence, both big projects. That said, the senior team is the gaa flagship of any county. And it has to said that the senior Roscommon team has underperformed expectations during the current chairman's tenure. The appointment by the County Board of Davy Burke as Senior football Manager was a gamble because his only previous senior inter county experience was with Wicklow. I know he won an underage All Ireland with Kildare but senior management is different gravy. The appointment hasn't worked for Roscommon. Despite the Tyrone win, I don't think there was enough there to extend the Burke tenure in to a third year. The County Board must take responsibility for a senior Roscommon management appointment that has not been a success.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2423 - 19/05/2025 17:58:07    2611093

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Also needs to be taken into account that he was appointed chairman in the height of covid (December 2020) and apart from the nonsense tweets about Leeds United that nobody but Leeds fans care about He has done fine as county board chairman IMHO.

Under his watch he played his part in appointing all young energetic managers over our U17,U20 and senior teams. The underage teams have been ultra competitive picking up a few Connacht titles along the way. Davy Burke was given a 3rd year term. Year one we finished 3rd in Div 1 and missed out on a championship Quarter final by the skin of our teeth, Year 2 relegated back to Div 2 but reached All Ireland Quarter final. Year 3 so far has been promotion back to Div 1 and his championship will be judged on remaining games now and not what has gone before.

Under our chairman talk about upgrading Hyde Park was finally put into action and the COE will soon follow I believe. Yes we have Mr Mulryan to help out but that's mainly to keep us afloat and without the outstanding fundraising work we would be in trouble and we do not have the resources of some other counties to stock our management teams with top level coaches. That doesn't always prove to be a success either as seen with our neighbours Mayo with one of the most expensive and stocked senior management teams but too many cooks is spoiling their broth."
Excellent post.
We're in a better position (non playing ) than we've ever been.
The Hyde was a right slum a few years ago , we had an undevelopable field in the middle of nowhere to be a CofE, Owed Croker a fortune.
Now the Hyde is much improved, have a CofE site (and an approved grant) with planning on the edge of Ros town and Croker debt cleared.
Not a bad Chairmanship at all.

PS I am not from Kilmore and am just on nodding terms with Brian.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2321 - 19/05/2025 19:07:25    2611115

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Anyone know the throw-in time for the Roscommon v Meath match?

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 740 - 19/05/2025 20:15:48    2611134

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It's Louth for Roscommon in the All Ireland minor quarter final. The wee county were the better team for much of the Leinster final but Offaly's tradition ground it out.The Faithful play Mayo next. Not sure if the dates or venues have been fixed for those games. Somebody also might know if Roscommon as provincial champions have home advantage for the quarter final or if it's a neutral venue.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2423 - 19/05/2025 21:57:39    2611176

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Replying To endgame:  "It's Louth for Roscommon in the All Ireland minor quarter final. The wee county were the better team for much of the Leinster final but Offaly's tradition ground it out.The Faithful play Mayo next. Not sure if the dates or venues have been fixed for those games. Somebody also might know if Roscommon as provincial champions have home advantage for the quarter final or if it's a neutral venue."
Offaly a bit like ourselves in U17 final with finishing strongly to win the title. Quarter final will be played v Louth on June 7th or 8th in a neutral venue.

P.S on the previous post of yours. Burke's tenure wasn't extended to a third year there was a gentleman agreement in place when appointment that his term would be 3 years so this is his final unless the county board decide to extend for a further year or two.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4053 - 19/05/2025 22:17:04    2611180

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Replying To endgame:  "It's Louth for Roscommon in the All Ireland minor quarter final. The wee county were the better team for much of the Leinster final but Offaly's tradition ground it out.The Faithful play Mayo next. Not sure if the dates or venues have been fixed for those games. Somebody also might know if Roscommon as provincial champions have home advantage for the quarter final or if it's a neutral venue."
Neutral venue I think. Thought louth were the better team but Offaly never gave up. To see the Offaly goalkeeper at 16 years of age kicking 2 savage frees off the ground to clinch it for them was brilliant. Louth will be a very tough test for our minors they are a very big side but our lads will be well up for it and hopefully get the job done.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1247 - 19/05/2025 22:17:11    2611181

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Replying To endgame:  "It's Louth for Roscommon in the All Ireland minor quarter final. The wee county were the better team for much of the Leinster final but Offaly's tradition ground it out.The Faithful play Mayo next. Not sure if the dates or venues have been fixed for those games. Somebody also might know if Roscommon as provincial champions have home advantage for the quarter final or if it's a neutral venue."
Neutral weekend 7/8 June.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2321 - 19/05/2025 22:20:06    2611185

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Offaly a bit like ourselves in U17 final with finishing strongly to win the title. Quarter final will be played v Louth on June 7th or 8th in a neutral venue.

P.S on the previous post of yours. Burke's tenure wasn't extended to a third year there was a gentleman agreement in place when appointment that his term would be 3 years so this is his final unless the county board decide to extend for a further year or two."
Looking back on it Burke was appointed for a three year term. I had thought it was two years with an option for a third. His term is up when Roscommon exit this year's championship. Meath and Cork are both beatable so Roscommon may get to a preliminary quarter final. Whether we do or not, there is no case for Burke's tenure to be extended beyond the three years. Roscommon will need a new Manager and a full reset next season. For me as a Roscommon supporter, I regard the last three years as a wasted opportunity where the Roscommon team's performances have fallen well short of what I think the players are capable of. Maybe it wasn't quite a golden generation but the manager did have a talented pool of players to work with ( many of the players who reached All Ireland U21 Finals in 2012 and 2014) and there's nothing to show for it.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2423 - 20/05/2025 06:34:29    2611212

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Replying To endgame:  "Looking back on it Burke was appointed for a three year term. I had thought it was two years with an option for a third. His term is up when Roscommon exit this year's championship. Meath and Cork are both beatable so Roscommon may get to a preliminary quarter final. Whether we do or not, there is no case for Burke's tenure to be extended beyond the three years. Roscommon will need a new Manager and a full reset next season. For me as a Roscommon supporter, I regard the last three years as a wasted opportunity where the Roscommon team's performances have fallen well short of what I think the players are capable of. Maybe it wasn't quite a golden generation but the manager did have a talented pool of players to work with ( many of the players who reached All Ireland U21 Finals in 2012 and 2014) and there's nothing to show for it."
In fairness endgame I think a bit of perspective is needed. Roscommon beat Cork by a point in the 2014 under-21 All Ireland semi final with the last kick of the game by Diarmuid Murtagh. There was nothing between the teams and Cork did not really set the world on fire in the last 10 years.
In the final against Dublin the match was over at half time and at one stage in the second half it was Dublin 1-17, Roscommon 0-1.
While we had some very fine players over the years a small county like Roscommon will always find it difficult to have a very strong extended panel which is needed.
I have nothing but admiration for the players from 2012 and 2014 who are still giving it 100% but we will always struggle to get into the last four.
Some of these players have several Connacht medals and have played several times in division 1 and gave us some great days. However some of them have lost some form recently and they must take some responsibility as well as the management team.
Unlike Meath, Louth and Cavan we have been promoted to division 1 and still have to play Meath and Cork to see if we will progress. The year is not over yet.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 740 - 20/05/2025 09:05:08    2611227

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "In fairness endgame I think a bit of perspective is needed. Roscommon beat Cork by a point in the 2014 under-21 All Ireland semi final with the last kick of the game by Diarmuid Murtagh. There was nothing between the teams and Cork did not really set the world on fire in the last 10 years.
In the final against Dublin the match was over at half time and at one stage in the second half it was Dublin 1-17, Roscommon 0-1.
While we had some very fine players over the years a small county like Roscommon will always find it difficult to have a very strong extended panel which is needed.
I have nothing but admiration for the players from 2012 and 2014 who are still giving it 100% but we will always struggle to get into the last four.
Some of these players have several Connacht medals and have played several times in division 1 and gave us some great days. However some of them have lost some form recently and they must take some responsibility as well as the management team.
Unlike Meath, Louth and Cavan we have been promoted to division 1 and still have to play Meath and Cork to see if we will progress. The year is not over yet."
It's not and our All Ireland Championship in effect starts on 31st May.
However there's little positivity about at the moment.
We need to throw everything at Meath and hope it gets us the win we badly need.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2321 - 20/05/2025 10:34:51    2611253

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "In fairness endgame I think a bit of perspective is needed. Roscommon beat Cork by a point in the 2014 under-21 All Ireland semi final with the last kick of the game by Diarmuid Murtagh. There was nothing between the teams and Cork did not really set the world on fire in the last 10 years.
In the final against Dublin the match was over at half time and at one stage in the second half it was Dublin 1-17, Roscommon 0-1.
While we had some very fine players over the years a small county like Roscommon will always find it difficult to have a very strong extended panel which is needed.
I have nothing but admiration for the players from 2012 and 2014 who are still giving it 100% but we will always struggle to get into the last four.
Some of these players have several Connacht medals and have played several times in division 1 and gave us some great days. However some of them have lost some form recently and they must take some responsibility as well as the management team.
Unlike Meath, Louth and Cavan we have been promoted to division 1 and still have to play Meath and Cork to see if we will progress. The year is not over yet."
While that is true and we shouldn't be comparing ourselves to Dublin, Kerry, Galway etc. Monaghan have spent a decade in Div 1 and reached two all Ireland semi finals in recent times. They also didn't have the same underage success as us, granted they are in a much more cut throat province to get out of. No reason we shouldn't be looking to emulate Monaghan. They have the same issues with population and resources.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 113 - 20/05/2025 11:40:48    2611268

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "It's not and our All Ireland Championship in effect starts on 31st May.
However there's little positivity about at the moment.
We need to throw everything at Meath and hope it gets us the win we badly need."
And if meath beat us does the championship really start against Cork? The championship started in salthill and continued in Killarney. Yes we are well capable of beating meath and Cork but I just don't think all is good in camp and if it isn't we won't win any other game this year.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1247 - 20/05/2025 11:48:46    2611271

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Roscommon v Meath confirmed for 6pm. Nicky Rackard cup final Roscommon v Mayo on the same day in Croke Park at 1pm was too much for HQ to play that on Sunday?

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4053 - 20/05/2025 13:25:24    2611312

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "While that is true and we shouldn't be comparing ourselves to Dublin, Kerry, Galway etc. Monaghan have spent a decade in Div 1 and reached two all Ireland semi finals in recent times. They also didn't have the same underage success as us, granted they are in a much more cut throat province to get out of. No reason we shouldn't be looking to emulate Monaghan. They have the same issues with population and resources."
I wouldn't put Galway into the same bracket as Kerry & Dublin though .Galway are overated. Armagh will beat them and Galway might beat Derry and up in pre Quarters .

And before you say Mayo are ***** true we were on Sunday the worst performance I've seen in a while Mcstay will be gone come August . You don't play your best when there is trouble in the camp.

As for Rossies you will make the pre quarters at least .

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 168 - 20/05/2025 13:33:02    2611314

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something is not right in camp, from the meltdown against monaghan in the 2nd half of the league final to the humiliation by galway. you can't just turn performances on like a tap. You can be sure meath will have no fear of coming to the hyde

hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 128 - 20/05/2025 14:11:32    2611323

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Replying To endgame:  "Looking back on it Burke was appointed for a three year term. I had thought it was two years with an option for a third. His term is up when Roscommon exit this year's championship. Meath and Cork are both beatable so Roscommon may get to a preliminary quarter final. Whether we do or not, there is no case for Burke's tenure to be extended beyond the three years. Roscommon will need a new Manager and a full reset next season. For me as a Roscommon supporter, I regard the last three years as a wasted opportunity where the Roscommon team's performances have fallen well short of what I think the players are capable of. Maybe it wasn't quite a golden generation but the manager did have a talented pool of players to work with ( many of the players who reached All Ireland U21 Finals in 2012 and 2014) and there's nothing to show for it."
Will be a solid case should Roscommon reach the last 8 of the championship again.

One consistent thing about your posting on here is the lack of patience and wanting managers gone after 2,3 years if your high expectations aren't reached. You posted similar about Evans,McStay and Cunnigham when Roscommon manager.

On the topic of pools of talent Tyrone have been among the best yet was knocked out of the championship at home by Roscommon last year. And patience has paid off big time for Armagh

McGeeneys first three championship years with Armagh

Year 1 - Ulster Quarter final exit to Donegal. Qualifiers round 2 exit to Galway

Year 2 - Ulster Quarter final exit to Cavan. Quarters round 1 exit to Laois

Year 3 - Ulster Quarter final exit to Down. All-Ireland Quarter final exit to Tyrone.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3627 - 20/05/2025 14:54:10    2611342

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Will be a solid case should Roscommon reach the last 8 of the championship again.

One consistent thing about your posting on here is the lack of patience and wanting managers gone after 2,3 years if your high expectations aren't reached. You posted similar about Evans,McStay and Cunnigham when Roscommon manager.

On the topic of pools of talent Tyrone have been among the best yet was knocked out of the championship at home by Roscommon last year. And patience has paid off big time for Armagh

McGeeneys first three championship years with Armagh

Year 1 - Ulster Quarter final exit to Donegal. Qualifiers round 2 exit to Galway

Year 2 - Ulster Quarter final exit to Cavan. Quarters round 1 exit to Laois

Year 3 - Ulster Quarter final exit to Down. All-Ireland Quarter final exit to Tyrone."
McStay and Cunningham each won a Connacht title both away from home. I never looked for McStay to go but Mayo fans want him gone now. Cunningham's time had run its course and that happens. Great Connacht title though with him in 2019 beating both Mayo and the Tribe away from home for the first time since 1972. Burke has achieved nothing in three years and I think most Roscommon fans would like to see a change of Manager. Do you lover want to see Davy's term extended and if so for how long.
As for McGeeney , Ulster's a tough province. Armagh were patient with him and It paid off. I don't expect Roscommon to be All Ireland champions in five years if Burke is still in charge .

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2423 - 20/05/2025 16:13:11    2611353

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