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Replying To Viking66:  "Lawlor was an orthodox wingback."
No he wasn't he was sweeping for most of it if u look at it!!!

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 02/03/2025 19:15:01    2594221

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Replying To theboys:  "No he wasn't he was sweeping for most of it if u look at it!!!"
Sweeping implies we had 6 other backs, which we didn't.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 02/03/2025 20:54:28    2594269

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Threw away that game last night. We continue to make the same mistakes. Which is so frustrating.
Wides. Missing frees, few players (coming on and starting )making same mistakes and unfortunately just not good enough. I like rossiter but he and his management team were poor last night. 3 of the subs he brought on are not good enough to be in the pane in my opinion.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1068 - 02/03/2025 21:13:47    2594275

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Can someone tell me why we didn't get a 65 for the blocked free by Casey. I didn't see it at the time was checking score on the Kilkenny cork game but saw it on buff egans page and had to be a 65"
The ball did not go out of play, I would say that is the reason why.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 779 - 03/03/2025 08:51:41    2594322

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Replying To theboys:  "No he wasn't he was sweeping for most of it if u look at it!!!"
He wasn't sweeping at any stage of the game. Not sure what match you were at.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 779 - 03/03/2025 08:53:06    2594324

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "There's the team I would start and the team I think Keith will start come Championship (Assuming no injuries which is a bad assumption)

Fanning will be in goal, like it or not

Shane Reck and Eoin Ryan in the corners and Jippo as full-back

I'd rather Cian Molloy at 6 and Damien Reck and Conor Foley at wing-back but Lawlor will be one of the wing-backs and then it'll probably be Damien at centre-back and Foley on the wing

I'd rather Lawlor in midfield alongside Hearne, don't think Dunbar is a guaranteed starter but it'll be either him or Kevin Foley alongside Hearne

Chin and Jacko likely to be the wing-forwards (Prefer Chin there as I think we can isolate him 1v1 against a wing-back, the opposition could crowd him out if he's centre-forward

Would rather Kevin Foley at 11 and give him license to drift, CBD could also do this role but he hasn't shown enough to date in the league, think this is at least a year too soon for Jack Redmond

Rory and Cian Byrne in the full-forward line, we don't have anyone better than Mac so if he's able to get fully up to speed quickly enough, he should start at 14. Casey maybe the front-runner otherwise although outside of the Clare game, he hasn't done much for me, not a huge fan of Dwyer, hard to know who to put in there, maybe Connal Flood deserves another chance? Could play someone there and allow them to drift (Kevin Foley or CBD most likely)

It's not a team of world-beaters although it's not a bad team at the same time, I think you could almost throw a blanket over us, KK, Dublin, Galway, and Offaly right now, don't think there's a huge gap between 1st and 5th in Leinster right now, we can beat all of these but equally, they can all beat us.

We also have to prove that we're able to navigate Antrim who for as much as they've had a poor league campaign to date, don't have much coming through at under-age, and have had to deal with two significant enough retirements/injuries in the forwards, they'll still think they can get us out at Wexford Park (Which is a hard to disagree with given their last two games against us as much as we've then put in immeasurably better performances against Galway & KK than they have, especially away from home)"
Throw a blanket over the 5 leinster teams? Someone go tell paddy power then. Kilkenny 7/1 for the AI Offaly 500/1.

Kilkenny are ahead of everyone else in leinster and that's been clear for years now.

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 03/03/2025 10:40:15    2594363

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He got a lovely point in the game. I hope Reck didn't get a bad injury. He has had hamstring issues before although I thought he looked OK walking off.

Agree with Wexford being wasteful we'd 9 more wides than Galway, seems to be a Wexford trait over the years. I thought we were competitive till the end apart from first 15 mins of 2nd half.

Also thought Stacks decisions were spiteful against us at times. Dunno if intentional or not maybe he trying to be anything but a home town ref decision man but I thought he was shocking.

Especially in last 10 mins. He gave so many borderline frees to them and of course they wound down the clock very well.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 03/03/2025 10:49:04    2594367

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Replying To Viking66:  "Sweeping implies we had 6 other backs, which we didn't."
Sweeping is many things it doesn't just mean 7v6 but,the other night it was 6v5 if you were watching and Richie Lawlor was the sweeper in all those cases!!

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 03/03/2025 11:59:05    2594392

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "Throw a blanket over the 5 leinster teams? Someone go tell paddy power then. Kilkenny 7/1 for the AI Offaly 500/1.

Kilkenny are ahead of everyone else in leinster and that's been clear for years now."
They're hardly that far ahead, pretty much every Championship game we've played against them since 2017 has gone to the wire and the same goes for KK-Galway games, Dublin seem to have some sort of mental block against KK but I really don't think KK are clear of everyone else in Leinster

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 395 - 03/03/2025 12:36:54    2594405

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "They're hardly that far ahead, pretty much every Championship game we've played against them since 2017 has gone to the wire and the same goes for KK-Galway games, Dublin seem to have some sort of mental block against KK but I really don't think KK are clear of everyone else in Leinster"
All good points but the fact of the matter is they've won the last 5 leinster titles and gotten to two all Ireland finals in that time.

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 03/03/2025 13:27:55    2594425

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Replying To theboys:  "Sweeping is many things it doesn't just mean 7v6 but,the other night it was 6v5 if you were watching and Richie Lawlor was the sweeper in all those cases!!"
That's not sweeping. If Galway drop a forward back that leaves us a spare defender. Same as for any other team. We largely only play 2 inside the whole time also, with 1 floating in and out, same as all the other top intercounty teams.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 03/03/2025 13:44:28    2594429

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "All good points but the fact of the matter is they've won the last 5 leinster titles and gotten to two all Ireland finals in that time."
Those 2 things are linked. If you go straight to 5 AI semifinals in a row that significantly increases your chances of making AI finals.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 03/03/2025 13:45:50    2594432

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Replying To Viking66:  "Those 2 things are linked. If you go straight to 5 AI semifinals in a row that significantly increases your chances of making AI finals."
Yeah, it's a bit like us in 2019, winning the Leinster Final meant we didn't have to go play in a QF two weeks after a provincial final defeat plus we had a bit of momentum psychologically, no surprise that was the closest we were to winning an AI in about 20 years and I don't even think that 2019 team was much better (if at all) than the 2018, 2020, and 2021 teams in theory, just got a bit of luck that year

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 395 - 03/03/2025 15:15:21    2594458

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's not sweeping. If Galway drop a forward back that leaves us a spare defender. Same as for any other team. We largely only play 2 inside the whole time also, with 1 floating in and out, same as all the other top intercounty teams."
Good man yea

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 03/03/2025 15:42:05    2594465

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Yeah, it's a bit like us in 2019, winning the Leinster Final meant we didn't have to go play in a QF two weeks after a provincial final defeat plus we had a bit of momentum psychologically, no surprise that was the closest we were to winning an AI in about 20 years and I don't even think that 2019 team was much better (if at all) than the 2018, 2020, and 2021 teams in theory, just got a bit of luck that year"
Last year we were 2 or 3 yards of a bad penalty decision in Nowlan Park from making a Leinster Final. And/or a couple of theatrical Greg Louganis moments from TJ. Them are the small margins.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 03/03/2025 16:11:31    2594481

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Replying To theboys:  "Good man yea"
He was not sweeping. Not near it. His man floated back down the line on occasions and Richie sat back.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 779 - 03/03/2025 16:16:02    2594484

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Replying To countyman2022:  "He was not sweeping. Not near it. His man floated back down the line on occasions and Richie sat back."
They were trying to make space by sucking our wingbacks up the pitch.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 03/03/2025 16:40:46    2594498

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Replying To Viking66:  "Last year we were 2 or 3 yards of a bad penalty decision in Nowlan Park from making a Leinster Final. And/or a couple of theatrical Greg Louganis moments from TJ. Them are the small margins."
If you're talking about the foul that was outside the 20m line, then it wasn't a bad decision to give the penalty.

As I've pointed out before, the rule in inter-county hurling is that it's a penalty and a black card if there's a foul that denies a genuine goal-scoring opportunity inside the 20m line (but not within 25m of either sideline), or inside the smaller arc.

When you consider that arc is 13 metres, it means there could be a penalty awarded for a foul that's a full 13 metres outside the "traditional" penalty area, and a full 33 metres from goal.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2720 - 03/03/2025 16:51:10    2594502

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "If you're talking about the foul that was outside the 20m line, then it wasn't a bad decision to give the penalty.

As I've pointed out before, the rule in inter-county hurling is that it's a penalty and a black card if there's a foul that denies a genuine goal-scoring opportunity inside the 20m line (but not within 25m of either sideline), or inside the smaller arc.

When you consider that arc is 13 metres, it means there could be a penalty awarded for a foul that's a full 13 metres outside the "traditional" penalty area, and a full 33 metres from goal."
The point is it wasn't a black card penalty, we had 3 defenders there, so it wasn't the case that the last man committed the foul, and also therefore not a clear goal scoring opportunity, and most of all Gordon didn't issue a black card.
He gave an orthodox penalty for a foul well out of the large rectangle.
And even the Kilkenny lads around me in the old stand, the big bus shelter that all their hurling heads hang out in, thought TJ was too cute for Eoin Ryan and Gordon and "bought" both those 2 frees.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 03/03/2025 17:33:01    2594520

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Replying To countyman2022:  "He was not sweeping. Not near it. His man floated back down the line on occasions and Richie sat back."
Lads his man played in front of the halfback line and around the middle 3rd for the majority of the game and Richie played behind the half back line!!! Call it what you like he was a spare man/sweeper/extra man what ever you want,all I'm pointing out is that he was a Free man who had the freedom to go where he liked!!! I'm also trying to point out that I think he would be more effective at midfield,I think he gives away to many frees and also 2 penalties I think he will struggle come championship on the good hurlers that he hasn't come across yet,well maybe mossy keoghan who took him for 2 goals!!! Defensively he's not good

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 03/03/2025 18:48:13    2594540

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