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Two teams who have had underwhelming seasons. O Rourke seems to have regressed meath, they where somewhat decent under Mc entee and largely competive. While a fortunate goal against louth has probably glossed over a rough season for the farney men. It's very hard to see past a monaghan win given the scores meath have conceded, even offensiveley they haven't offered much. Monaghan by 5 / 6 but I hold off any predictions or PQF win based on our form this year.

222 (UK) - Posts: 849 - 12/06/2024 12:11:14    2550991

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Replying To patmouse:  "We have far more in common with people in Meath then Tyrone or Armagh and that's no fault of the other 2 counties. Meath people are generally great craic, anyone who went to college/ work in Dublin etc will know loads, they have a very similar outlook with ourselves and the Cavan lads."
As a Cavan man yourself you would know lol

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 414 - 12/06/2024 14:19:44    2551017

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Not very long. It's between the Monaghan/Meath border and Cavan/Westmeath border as the shortest border in Ireland between two counties. Which two counties in Ireland has the longest border?"
I'd say it'll be Cork and Kerry looking at the map. Galway and Roscommon is long too

MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 235 - 12/06/2024 14:33:32    2551019

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Replying To MrPBoylan:  "I'd say it'll be Cork and Kerry looking at the map. Galway and Roscommon is long too"
Ros borders 7 Counties.
Leitrim Donegal border pretty short.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2297 - 12/06/2024 15:50:35    2551036

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shorest border between two counties in Ireland has to be Monaghan and Meath.. about 6km-7km in length.
That's followed closely by Cavan and Westmeath where its about a couple of km more.

SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 161 - 12/06/2024 16:03:50    2551040

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Ros borders 7 Counties.
Leitrim Donegal border pretty short."
Meath and Offaly also has a short border. There are three neighbouring pairs of counties that you can't drive into without going into another county. Kerry and Clare. You have to go through Limerick. Wexford and Waterford. You have to go through Kilkenny. Louth and Down. You have to go through Armagh. But this will change soon as work started on a bridge that will link Omeath in Louth to Warrenpoint in Down.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 1039 - 12/06/2024 16:16:08    2551044

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The Monaghan Meath border is 6km (3.75 miles).

BrehonBlonde (Monaghan) - Posts: 114 - 12/06/2024 16:24:37    2551046

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Looking forward to the game. Just like Cavan I look forward to it as a big Derby. You couldn't beat the by enough (I know we diddentbeat cavan and I'm still disgusted) for me it's a good riveraly as I'm thatside of monaghan and I work with quite a few Meath people and for many years they taught they were the dogs B**** . You can't beat the derby's for Bit of heart from supporters and players. Hon Monaghan win by 3

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 300 - 13/06/2024 04:57:58    2551104

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Anyone know whentheclub championship draw is?
Don't like the current format but I do get fair excitement from the draw.

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 300 - 13/06/2024 04:59:34    2551105

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Meath and Offaly also has a short border. There are three neighbouring pairs of counties that you can't drive into without going into another county. Kerry and Clare. You have to go through Limerick. Wexford and Waterford. You have to go through Kilkenny. Louth and Down. You have to go through Armagh. But this will change soon as work started on a bridge that will link Omeath in Louth to Warrenpoint in Down."
Donegal and Sligo don't border each other but would be known as neighbouring counties due to close proximity

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2878 - 13/06/2024 09:08:40    2551119

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Donegal and Sligo don't border each other but would be known as neighbouring counties due to close proximity"
Yeah due to Leitrim having the shortest coastline in Ireland. While it's neighbour Donegal has the longest coastline.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 1039 - 13/06/2024 09:46:24    2551123

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Replying To farneygael:  "Looking forward to the game. Just like Cavan I look forward to it as a big Derby. You couldn't beat the by enough (I know we diddentbeat cavan and I'm still disgusted) for me it's a good riveraly as I'm thatside of monaghan and I work with quite a few Meath people and for many years they taught they were the dogs B**** . You can't beat the derby's for Bit of heart from supporters and players. Hon Monaghan win by 3"
I am from the far side of the county, but worked in Carrick for a while in the late 90s when Meath were at the pomp. Before I worked there I didn't even know we bordered Meath and was surprised how many Meath people you would run into around Carrick. Jeez back then they were hard to deal with.

For a small county I think there is a distinct divide in Monaghan if run a line from around Ballybay over to Blayney. North of that the accent changes and the interactions are with Fermanagh, the Cavan area around Redhills/Cootehill, Tyrone and North Armagh area around Middletown. Those areas always came into Monaghan for social occasions so there are lots inter-marriages etc.

South of that line the interactions are mostly with South Armagh around Cross, Louth, North Meath and Cavan around Kingscourt/Balieboro. You would meet loads from those areas in the pubs around Carrick whereas you would rarely meet them in Monaghan town or Clones

Louth always struck me as the same with a North/South divide. Up around Dundalk they definitely look North socially and culturally, whereas down round Drogheda they looked more towards Dublin/Meath

TheHunter (Monaghan) - Posts: 18 - 13/06/2024 10:17:34    2551128

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Tipperarys borders and GAA rivalries really are interesting, obviously to the south is kilkenny, West Galway but back up towards the midlands they have a longstanding rivalry with offaly. I actually think some clubs in offaly operate in tipp but open to correction.

222 (UK) - Posts: 849 - 13/06/2024 10:43:45    2551137

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Interesting discussion lads.

Leitrim is essentially two counties in one also.

You can't get from North Leitrim to South Leitrim without entering Cavan or Roscommon.

I would say Donegal and Leitrim is bound to be up there of bordering counties which are culturally very different.

Same for Leitrim and Fermanagh.

Galway Tipperary in some ways. Although South Galway is nearly more culturally linked to Munster than Connacht due to the hurling links but Galway people may correct me on this.

Tipperary and its 8 bordering counties essentially covers the hurling stronghold of Ireland. With the exception of Wexford. Everywhere else hurling plays second fiddle to Football.

Tipperary, Cork, Waterford, Clare, Limerick, Galway, Offaly, Laois and Kilkenny

drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 351 - 13/06/2024 11:16:52    2551150

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Wexford and waterford (sunny south East) don't actually touch each other. Both counties would be aligned.

222 (UK) - Posts: 849 - 13/06/2024 12:10:07    2551169

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This GAA forum seems to be morphing into a Geography/Cultural forum, i'm not complaining though, its interesting.
It is only the parish of Magheraloone in Monaghan which borders with Meath. Within a couple of miles, you can drive between Cavan, Monaghan and Meath, close to Tobbermannon bridge.
A quick google gave me this:
"Where Breffni joins with kingly Meath at Tobermannon on the Glyde, there Magheracloone in Monaghan is lying side by side."
Its great Poteen country around that part, especially on the Meath (Barleyhill) side.

SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 161 - 13/06/2024 12:24:12    2551174

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Replying To SouthMonMan:  "This GAA forum seems to be morphing into a Geography/Cultural forum, i'm not complaining though, its interesting.
It is only the parish of Magheraloone in Monaghan which borders with Meath. Within a couple of miles, you can drive between Cavan, Monaghan and Meath, close to Tobbermannon bridge.
A quick google gave me this:
"Where Breffni joins with kingly Meath at Tobermannon on the Glyde, there Magheracloone in Monaghan is lying side by side."
Its great Poteen country around that part, especially on the Meath (Barleyhill) side."
Interesting, maybe south monahan folk also felt they where superior to the North mons due to the close proximity of the Pale culture nearby!!

222 (UK) - Posts: 849 - 13/06/2024 12:42:07    2551179

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theres a bit of a relationship/history between ratoath and magheracloone i think.

didn't ratoath help magheracloone by letting them use pitch facilities after that mine collapse? also Shane Duffy played and won championships for both clubs in the two counties. anyone know why he switched clubs? a quick google search shows that its simply because he moved house to ratoath and was "scouted"

any other gaa crossover stories?

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 222 - 13/06/2024 13:23:45    2551193

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thats a crazy stat about lietrim, that you cant go from north to south of the county without leaving it. i always thought cavan and roscommon seem to be culturally fairly close even though they dont touch. theres a strange thing around meath westmeath border areas where they actually are placid enough when playing football against each other as the areas that straddle the border for 80% of the middle are not massive football stongholds and hurling would be number one in those areas, all the way from Castlepollard/kilskyre to delvin /athboy down to raharney/killyon, they would be places where a hurling match would always be on tv in a pub over football and where people would regulalry go to see munster championhsip games in thurles etc. id say theres very few other strong football counties (div 2) where this would happen or am i wrong? its a big area basically mullingar east to kells and trim .

Its hard to know who meath are most culturally aligned with, i suppose it has to be kildare, most of meath looks the same, same accent south of Trim as far as Naas. Both counties seem to be always lumped together when talking economiccaly , GAA , or geographically. both counites when there footballers are going bad would be happier going to a race meeting than seeing them play! i always notice a huge amount of MH and KE cars around Galway each year for races too, it always seemed the place to be when you were in early 20s, before races was the go to social event in other areas of ireland. there always seemed to be people from the same areas each year, namely Tipperary, Cork, Limerick, Kildare and Meath. It was rare as hens teeth to meet anyone from Donegal, Lietrim, Cavan , Fermanagh or Longford at the races. Only counties you would meet from the north were usually Down or lesser extent Armagh. I think race going and young people is a very contagiuos activity, if a few lads and lassies are going it usually inspires the next crew a few years later to go and it has a snowball effect. I remember around 2016 i seen that social pheomen at its peak in the Hole in the Wall pub in Galway, i counted around 50 young people from 18-35 all from within a 10 mile radius of Trim co meath in the one pub all in different groups from different villages

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 827 - 13/06/2024 14:19:40    2551208

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Full round of club league tomorrow, coming to the business end of the leagues, few teams still unbeaten in each of the divisions and going well

Farney2022 (Monaghan) - Posts: 44 - 13/06/2024 16:25:38    2551245

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