bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 13/11/2016 19:53:22    1933990

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/11/2016 20:03:05    1933996

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2016 20:03:14    1933997

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2016 20:16:48    1934003

In relation to this so called famous victory in Soldiers field in Chicago I just wonder had the A B a full team out
Something tells me that several reserves were played
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts:2797 - 11/11/2016 20:19:15   The New Zealanders had a full team out. Why wouldn't they?
Waterford hurler Jack O'Donoghue is a once off and a coeincidence.
Scallioneater (Carlow) - Posts:262 - 11/11/2016 21:09:13Based on what... your extensive knowledge of munster underage and academy rugby. There has been very few munster academy and contracted players from Waterford. Yet since Jack joined academy he's been joined in academy by Steve McMahon from Dungarvan and there is several more Waterford natives in provincial sub academies In Connacht and Munster

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 13/11/2016 20:19:23    1934004

The rugby lads on this thread want us to believe that ALL rugby internationals are important. Yet, Ireland fields a reserve team today against Canada, with no less than 15 changes from the NZ game. Now, they also frequently say that the GAA managers don't take the national league seriously- I know of no serious modern GAA manager who would treat a national league game like this (or show such disrespect to an opponent, for that matter). It would make you wonder- maybe NZ hold us in the same regard as we hold Canada??
football first (All) - Posts:1034 - 12/11/2016 10:43:29Yes lots of changes but that doesn't mean the game isn't important. Do we not see GAA managers saying all too often about league only preparation for championship and so do so many posters here.

In answer to the question in the topic head, I don't think it will in the long term. Cultural change is happening relentlessly. Rugby is a 9 month season and it is increasingly winning over the hearts and minds of the sporting public. The GAA, in terms of commanding national attention is a 3 month season at most. I think that is how our cultural life will evolve into the future: 75% of the time a rugby- obsessed people and the other 25% of the time with our attention focussed on Gaelic games, during the period of the year when professional rugby is in the off season. Back in the time when Moss Keane was in his prime, it was often said (and I think he joked about it himself) that rugby was played by fellas who were not good enough to make it as inter county footballers. That comment used to be made half humourously, but there was a lot of truth in it. Now the shoe is very firmly on the other foot -- if a top class GAA player is good at rugby and has a chance to make a career in the sport, even if not at the very top level, he will choose rugby every time. Numerous promising Gaa players have made that jump in recent years and many more will do it in the future. There is little doubt in my mind that in 50 years time rugby will be the No.1 sport in Ireland (almost to the extent it is No.1 in New Zealand). I'm saying this as someone who has zilch interest in rugby and for whom it will always be on the edge of my consciousness, but I cannot fail to see the cultural shift that is happening before my eyes. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts:497 - 12/11/2016 11:20:10 Rugby is not going to be no1 in Ireland in 50 years and sport wont be to anything like it is in New Zealand.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 13/11/2016 20:23:50    1934007

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2016 20:24:14    1934008

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/11/2016 20:37:23    1934012

I remember the days of the ban...GAA players attended soccer or rugby games in disguise.
Jimmy Barry Murphy and Con Roche got lengthy suspensions for attending the "garrison game"
At least,,,,we will never revert to that

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/11/2016 21:00:39    1934013

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2016 21:22:26    1934015

Don't know what the fascination is with managers from the Barrs....Donal O'Grady, John Allen, Gerald McCarthy, John Meyler, Con Roche and now Ger Cunningham...Dublin should get a Kilkennyman

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/11/2016 21:54:56    1934025

Whatever about Cork's woes in hurling....Dublin really should do better. I like a lot of their players..good stickmen and play with a lot of fire. They lack a cohesiveness that a Brian Cody could give them
Jimmy Barry Murphy (another barrs manager) gave Cork that cohesiveness for a year or 2
I know this digresses away from the topic....but as long as the GAA flourishes in Dublin..I do not see a problem. The population and thus gate revenue comes from them
GAA popularity in Dublin is high....I remember a different story in the not too distant past

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/11/2016 22:01:37    1934026

0It must surely frustrate the actual hardcore supporters who go to the matches to watch and enjoy the action on the pitch that they have to put up with making room for others to constantly stream out to the bar and bring alcochol back up spilling more and more around them as the game goes on.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11353 - 12/11/2016 19:48:24   1933840 

yeah it does, if you want to drink and watch a game - go to a pub or do it at home, im going there to watch the game and cheer my team. And i aint teetotal either. I dont mind before or after game , but not during

its on the match programme and on signs around stadium that you cant drink alcohol into stadium but they aint enforcing it , was at the game myself in terracing at the cheap side, i didnt think it was a bad as hillman suggests but to be honest i was focused on the game, and would be more attuned to the drinking culture around rugby . I never make room for anybody carrying drink, you want to bring in drink dont expect me to move and miss the game. Alway baffled me at munster away games to see guys who spent hundreds of euro travelling over and them spending 10/15 mins during game queueing for drink, also remember clermont fans bringing their own wine

Rugby wise it aint exclusive to munster rugby - happens in other sports too - look at darts!!,happens in GAA but at least the GAA ahve the cop on not to leave it in the stadium, even happens when people go to concerts/shows theatre

as i just felt the majority were not really interested in the actual sport taken place
i think thats a bit harsh, to me the majority were very interested in game , the atmosphere was fantastic the crowd really got behind the teamand the team responded, only in limerick would you get 26k for a game like that, was there with my dad and two kids - its a memory we will all cherish for the rest of our lives

I wonder if they did like they do with hill16 and make you have to consume the alcohol underneath the terraces at the bar would they loose an awful lot of people from attending matches as it seems a very big part of the whole rugby event.
Id say probably not , could mean some people missing first 5 mins of first/second half, sadly maybe its now part of pro sport -make money from the bars

I was on the terrace at side of the pitch and most glaring thing of the whole experience didnt happen on the pitch at all.
The most glaring thing for me was the magnificent gesture of the maori in before the game laying out the jersey with AF on it and letting Axles (RIP) kids take the jersey.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 14/11/2016 23:19:29    1934269

Remember years ago going to watch billy connolly in dublin. I lovce billy think he is brilliant. I didnt drink alcohol before the show and didnt drink too much water before it for obvious reasons. While you couldnt buy liquor during the show you could buy say four pints before the show and bring them in to the auditorium and drink them yourself.
Hence throughout the show people were traipsing up and down to the loo, Billy was telling stories and stopping when people were moving, and generally taking the piss out of them (pun) as they walked to and from the loo, after a while he stops and say - do people in ireland not piss at home anymore , had it all in stitches he did

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 14/11/2016 23:27:05    1934270

Two things I noticed on.the Rte doc re rugby team, when Rory best was playing with his kids in.back garden he had gaa goalposts in back, also.the kit man's room had studs, pliers chocolate and.... holy water!!! Only in.Ireland eh!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 14/11/2016 23:48:59    1934274

I hope hillman you enjoyed your stay in our beautiful city, despite the rain , well this.is the city of Angeles Ashes!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 14/11/2016 23:51:37    1934275

janesboro

I agree cant understand the need for alcohol while your there watching the game
surely you paid the money to see the match not drink, they can do that for free in the pub like you said haha
i was right at an exit on the steps that they kept coming down so was no choice but move a bit each time or have the drink spilled on me when they tried brushing past me.
im not saying alcohol is only a rugby problem but its first time i have seen to a degree freely taken vast amounts like that up to were you watch a match, darts is a bit different in fairness it was a pub game before it ever became professional, sure its less than 20 years since the players themselves were drinking alcohol while playing, the sport has come a long way in a very short space of time but its limited viewing areas are a huge problem to attract people to go to the event so the pub atmosphere has to be retained to make the numbers go as otherwise your only paying money to watch a tv screen which you do the same thing at home.
when i said the majority i should have stated the majority around where i was standing.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/11/2016 14:55:10    1934385

janesboro
yeah was a nice touch the jersey but in fairness I was already expecting a kind of tribute to be done seen as it has been done for most rugby games over last three weeks and was posting more as a match day experince at rugby point of view.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/11/2016 14:58:15    1934387

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/11/2016 15:01:03    1934388

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/11/2016 15:05:33    1934391