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Can the GAA survive the Rugby onslaught

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Also the was the.Henry shuffling.programme on winning I

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2016 10:18:21    1933521

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I know a chap living in Ballymun (he calls it Santry for some reason but that's beside the point). The closest rugby camp for one of his sons last summer was in Ashbourne.

Ballymun is getting smaller by the day.

Santry and Glasnevin are ever expanding into it ;)

It's DCU's fault. Middle class Ireland couldn't be sending their little darlings to college in the Mun!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 11/11/2016 10:21:46    1933523

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "I don't know who was doing the commentary for Saturdays game on BT Sport but it seemed every time an Irish man caught a high ball he put it down to the skills developed playing gaelic football. It made me smile both because I know it is something that annoys some in the rugby community and also I don't think the commentator has seen a lot of gaelic football in the last few years.

Soma (UK) - Posts:1647 - 10/11/2016

You'd wonder how New Zealand ever became any good at rugby without the GAA background alright.

Surprised the Cubs win wasn't put down to somebody having a bit of experience playing hurling too."
on bt sport rugby programme llast year they mentioned the advantage irish players have with gaelic football backgrounds and referred to catching technique, i think myself its helpful all right both ways stuff you learn in gaa you can use in rugby and vice versa

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2016 10:29:52    1933524

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Rugby was always a 'status' sport in Dublin and still is although some of the best rugby players started off playing our games.

browncows (Meath) - Posts:1232 - 10/11/2016 21:18:12 1933448

it is possible that maybe just maybe people play rugby because of enjoyment of the sport like hurlign and football!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2016 10:31:10    1933526

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Replying To janesboro: "Alano.In what clubs did.u have bad experiences"
i am not going to name names on here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:899 - 10/11/2016 19:17:03 1933426

thats a cop out ,..... if you have had a bad experience please name the relevant club or school involved, what was the bad experience , was it repeated or a one off, if a club has done something wrong its not acceptable and needs eradication.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2016 10:35:18    1933528

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Replying To bumpernut:  "It is in the main longridge but there is certainly a lot more catholics playing and watching it now than there was 10/15 years ago for example.

The majority of catholic kids playing it would be at fee paying schools like Inst or Methody, which would have been classed as solely Protestant schools in the past. Those catholic kids attending these schools would be mainly from Malone area in South Belfast.

There are no working class catholic schools in Belfast playing that im aware of at a competitive level.

I will say though that while I cant bring myself to watch or support ulster there are substantially more catholics including from West Belfast going to watch them.
Ravenhill is certainly a friendlier and less intimidating arena than Windsor Park though they still have their memorial clock and politics that is associated with it which is why I struggle to cheer them on.

There is no doubt that supporter wise there is a change iro supporting Ulster among nationalists/catholics, however, playing the game in belfast though is still the preserve of the middle and upper classes regardless of religion."
Thanks for that insight into the changing face of NI society bumper nut.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 11/11/2016 11:20:52    1933539

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it is possible that maybe just maybe people play rugby because of enjoyment of the sport like hurlign and football!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:849 - 11/11/2016 10:31:10

It's also possible, maybe just maybe, that people have had differing experiences to the ones you've had.

I know it's a long shot but I think it is indeed possible.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 11/11/2016 12:13:01    1933549

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Replying To janesboro:  "Replying To janesboro: "Alano.In what clubs did.u have bad experiences"
i am not going to name names on here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:899 - 10/11/2016 19:17:03 1933426

thats a cop out ,..... if you have had a bad experience please name the relevant club or school involved, what was the bad experience , was it repeated or a one off, if a club has done something wrong its not acceptable and needs eradication."
Tell him Alano! He's gonna go 'round and sort them out!

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 11/11/2016 12:26:05    1933553

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Replying To MesAmis:  "it is possible that maybe just maybe people play rugby because of enjoyment of the sport like hurlign and football!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:849 - 11/11/2016 10:31:10

It's also possible, maybe just maybe, that people have had differing experiences to the ones you've had.

I know it's a long shot but I think it is indeed possible."
Well then let people advise of these bad experiences and clubs or schools involved nobody has done so.far it's all perception and generality,

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2016 13:12:12    1933574

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Well then let people advise of these bad experiences and clubs or schools involved nobody has done so.far it's all perception and generality,
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:852 - 11/11/2016 13:12:12

Alano thinks it unfair to name and shame a club on an anonymous forum. I'd tend to agree with him to be honest.

You disagree and that's okay too.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 11/11/2016 14:05:30    1933590

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Replying To janesboro:  "Replying To janesboro: "Alano.In what clubs did.u have bad experiences"
i am not going to name names on here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:899 - 10/11/2016 19:17:03 1933426

thats a cop out ,..... if you have had a bad experience please name the relevant club or school involved, what was the bad experience , was it repeated or a one off, if a club has done something wrong its not acceptable and needs eradication."
its not a cop out..im not hear to name names....why are you trying to force your views on mesamis and me and other dubs?...who are you to tell us what our experiences in our own city are like?...your lack of understanding of the city is worrying

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/11/2016 17:54:00    1933645

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Replying To janesboro:  "eh dont rte show , the toughest trade, pairc life, the geansai, thank gaa its friday
the championship draw (dont show rugby equivalent), the all stars (dont show rugby equivalent) , up for the match (dont show a rugby equivalent)

the geansai episode show the pitch in inisturk being a highlight for me - even got to have puck about there on hols during summer"
all from a much popular sport....is winning 1 game but losing a series to a team you play every year or 2 documentary worthy though?

there is no rugby equivalent to the all stars or up for the match....you refuse to compare like with like...will dublin be getting a documentary?..the irish soccer team?...why cant you be objective?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/11/2016 17:57:34    1933647

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Replying To janesboro:  "Rugby was always a 'status' sport in Dublin and still is although some of the best rugby players started off playing our games.

browncows (Meath) - Posts:1232 - 10/11/2016 21:18:12 1933448

it is possible that maybe just maybe people play rugby because of enjoyment of the sport like hurlign and football!!"
if they did then it would be played by all classes in dublin..its not...the vast majority come from a certain area which is associated with private schools, bankers and the social elite in this country but you dont seem to realise this

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/11/2016 17:58:53    1933648

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Replying To cavanman47:  "1. I'm not sure who denies this as everyone knows Ryle Nugent is a rugby man.

2. Our rugby team is about as good as it's ever been and their win in South Africa was historical.

3. The programme was at what, 10pm last night? A Thursday night. Hardly prime time television.

4. RTE didn't even show the NZ game last week, the Canada game tomorrow is being shown, the first live game since the 6 nations in mid March, while the team has played 4 games against arguably the 2 most successful sides in rugby history in the meantime."
our rugby team was well beaten in the 6 nations and dumped out of the world cup at the quarter final stage...yes weve had 2 good wins recently and fair play to them but just adding some balance here..we are not as good as we make ourselves out to be....documentaries should be for teams who actually achieved something...like dublin winning the all ireland or ireland coming out of the groups in the euros


you have to admit the whole thing was about sponsorship and little else

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/11/2016 18:03:44    1933649

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Would have to disagree that sports documentaries should only be about winning teams. Losing is as much part of winning in sport. There was a great one about the Dubs under Pillar a few years back. Hoop dreams is no less briliant because they dont make it to the NBA.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4653 - 11/11/2016 19:26:28    1933675

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Would have to disagree that sports documentaries should only be about winning teams. Losing is as much part of winning in sport. There was a great one about the Dubs under Pillar a few years back. Hoop dreams is no less briliant because they dont make it to the NBA."
you have a point there but 1 victory in a test match series that they lost is hardly documentary worthy now..and that 1 wont be winning any awards like hoop dream did..you know the documentaries you mentioned were actually good

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/11/2016 19:41:06    1933676

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Tomsmith here

In relation to this so called famous victory in Soldiers field in Chicago I just wonder had the A B a full team out
Something tells me that several reserves were played

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4060 - 11/11/2016 20:19:15    1933683

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Waterford hurler Jack O'Donoghue is a once off and a coeincidence.

Scallioneater (Carlow) - Posts: 294 - 11/11/2016 21:09:13    1933693

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Munster just beat the all blacks again.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/11/2016 21:33:06    1933696

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Replying To alano12:  "you have a point there but 1 victory in a test match series that they lost is hardly documentary worthy now..and that 1 wont be winning any awards like hoop dream did..you know the documentaries you mentioned were actually good"
Espn 30 for 30 were great - once were brothers, the U, two escobars...amongst many others. I havent seen that doc about recent tour of SA. Doesnt sound too great alright !

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4653 - 11/11/2016 22:00:21    1933698

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