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Can the GAA survive the Rugby onslaught

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Hurling is in the minority on this site and it doesn't get much discussion going. Added to that your thread was about minor hurling.

This thread kept going mainly through yourself and Ormond not accepting that some people's experiences are different from yours and thinking that my explanation for the perception of elitism in rugby stemming from me never having been to a rugby club."
And some of us are bored!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 10/11/2016 14:06:36    1933330

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I like rugby. I don't think I'm being anti-rugby by calling a spade a spade re: rugby playing demographics.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12440 - 10/11/2016 14:22:48    1933333

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Replying To bumpernut:  "And some of us are bored!!"
True!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 10/11/2016 14:43:45    1933342

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And some of us are bored!!
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1483 - 10/11/2016 14:06:36 1


How can you be bored bumpernut?

Sure it's Thurday and you are supposed to working on the "Proposed New Casement Park" design, with the design team who work in your building.

bumpernut revealed earlier this week that he has a vested interest in the New Casement Project, he is attached to the Design team.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 10/11/2016 15:29:02    1933358

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I haven't?? Strange comment.


I just explained my own POV, and explained what some other posters were getting at (i.e. that they do "get it", they're just putting an alternative view across)"
you have...you are unable to comprehend others could have other experiences and are portraying yourself as superior and more progressive

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/11/2016 18:11:05    1933409

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this thread has gone very strange now that people from munster and other areas in ireland who are very pro rugby are telling people how rugby is perceived in dublin to people from dublin who are apathetic about rugby or are fans of rugby just not the way its so based on class in dublin

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/11/2016 18:25:30    1933414

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Alano.In what clubs did.u have bad experiences

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/11/2016 18:30:49    1933415

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Replying To GaryMc82:  "And some of us are bored!!
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1483 - 10/11/2016 14:06:36 1


How can you be bored bumpernut?

Sure it's Thurday and you are supposed to working on the "Proposed New Casement Park" design, with the design team who work in your building.

bumpernut revealed earlier this week that he has a vested interest in the New Casement Project, he is attached to the Design team."
Fair play to him. Is there a problem with that?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8152 - 10/11/2016 19:10:11    1933424

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Replying To janesboro:  "Alano.In what clubs did.u have bad experiences"
i am not going to name names on here

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/11/2016 19:17:03    1933426

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Ormond, All I'm saying is that most of the rugby players from this city that end up playing for Leinster and Ireland come from a small section of society. That's just how it is.
That helps feed the perception about rugby in Dublin. Agreed? That's all I'm saying.
In terms of my own personal experience, I'm pretty sure that it is quite similar to a lot of other Dubliners. I recognise that my experience is not definitive. However I'm sure you can see how that experience added to my first point could help to continue the perception about rugby.
For the record I'm from the North Stand Rd. I still live and work in the general area.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:10221 - 09/11/2016 16:01:46
The numbers playing at professional level are overwhelmingly from a small number of schools in the country, fee paying or not, because the kids in those schools train like pros. They are training 3 times a week on the pitch with 3/4 strength and conditioning sessions with a match a week for the season. That is why so many are from a small number of schools playing for Leinster. That is changing as more clubs and people play in these clubs and standards of coaching improve in those areas. When you say your experience is that of a lot of Dubliners I think that's incorrect. I do see how that experience continues that perception about rugby. would you ever think of seeing what a rugby club is like to change the perception?"
Do you spend much time in dublin?
Rugby barely exists on the northside
it's a well to do sport in dublin
Not a perception it's a fact and the fact they have a better than others attitude and personality is the main reason it only exists in upper class pockets. They make themselves inclusive and don't want people not in the same lifestyle bracket.
Rugby in say limerick is a different game to rugby in Dublin, most ordinary people in limerick city follow munster, in dublin unless your from an upper class area or background 99% of the rest of us will never have gone to see a Leinster match or have any interest in them.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/11/2016 19:57:30    1933433

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hill16no1man (Dublin) -I think that Ormond is trying to tell us that he knows more about what happens in Dublin than yourself or indeed anyone who lives there. I think you need to bring Ormond on a tour of Dublin and take in a a couple of locations extra to Landowne Rd and the other stadium which nobody appears to own (I forget its name!!). Rugby was always a 'status' sport in Dublin and still is although some of the best rugby players started off playing our games.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/11/2016 21:18:12    1933448

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Sometimes I think the GAA should start their own radio station. Reason is that the commercial radio stations don't really cover the games.
Irish language has Radio na Life and Radio na Gaeltacht
Christians have a radio station also.
Why not a GAA themed radio station? slán.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2625 - 10/11/2016 21:35:08    1933455

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I don't know who was doing the commentary for Saturdays game on BT Sport but it seemed every time an Irish man caught a high ball he put it down to the skills developed playing gaelic football. It made me smile both because I know it is something that annoys some in the rugby community and also I don't think the commentator has seen a lot of gaelic football in the last few years.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/11/2016 21:59:32    1933465

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I don't know who was doing the commentary for Saturdays game on BT Sport but it seemed every time an Irish man caught a high ball he put it down to the skills developed playing gaelic football. It made me smile both because I know it is something that annoys some in the rugby community and also I don't think the commentator has seen a lot of gaelic football in the last few years.

Soma (UK) - Posts:1647 - 10/11/2016


You'd wonder how New Zealand ever became any good at rugby without the GAA background alright.

Surprised the Cubs win wasn't put down to somebody having a bit of experience playing hurling too.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 10/11/2016 22:27:59    1933469

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Do you spend much time in dublin?
Rugby barely exists on the northside
it's a well to do sport in dublin
Not a perception it's a fact and the fact they have a better than others attitude and personality is the main reason it only exists in upper class pockets. They make themselves inclusive and don't want people not in the same lifestyle bracket.
Rugby in say limerick is a different game to rugby in Dublin, most ordinary people in limerick city follow munster, in dublin unless your from an upper class area or background 99% of the rest of us will never have gone to see a Leinster match or have any interest in them.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11343 - 10/11/2016


Nonsense hill.

Plenty of rugby right in the heart of the northside in places like Clontarf and Sutton...

I know a chap living in Ballymun (he calls it Santry for some reason but that's beside the point). The closest rugby camp for one of his sons last summer was in Ashbourne.

Take out the colleges, schools and a few patches in close proximity along the coastline and there's almost no rugby presence on the northside. Hard to see that ever change considering the size of some of the GAA clubs and underage football teams around the place.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 10/11/2016 22:35:36    1933473

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Huge crossover between GAA and Rugby in the general Athlone area which I think is representative of whats going on across many other parts of Connacht. Robbie Henshaw, Jack and Luke Carty, Danny Qualter , Niall Murray who have all played for Ireland u-18 rugby ,are on various trajectories in serious rugby and are all from Gaelic Football backgrounds. The latter 4 have all played football for my home county at under age level, the most non-traditional rugby county I can think of but i believe all permanently lost to the GAA.
Connacht Rugby with its Green Shoots campaign is all pervasive and is light years ahead of its equivalent in the Connacht Council ( and before you say it, they are also 'professional' with their permanent and paid staff )

facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 221 - 10/11/2016 23:07:55    1933478

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This week in Britain, the Irish Post newspaper devotes six of its 40 pages to Rugby including the whole of its front and back pages.
The newspaper gives two pages to reports on Gaelic games that took place last weekend. There is no preview whatsoever of the All Britain Junior Football Club Final between John Mitchells (Liverpool) and Dunedin Connollys (Edinburgh), a major highlight in the British GAA calendar. The game takes place this coming Sunday in Manchester. The only reference to the game is where it is included in the list of fixtures.
In recent years I have felt that the Irish Post has an affinity with rugby that doesn't come across in its reporting of Gaelic games.

ballagoballa (UK) - Posts: 49 - 10/11/2016 23:29:08    1933485

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i dont know if anybody noticed but the rugby team received a documentary for their win over south africa over the summer...and people say rte arent biased towards rugby...

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/11/2016 02:31:57    1933495

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Replying To alano12:  "i dont know if anybody noticed but the rugby team received a documentary for their win over south africa over the summer...and people say rte arent biased towards rugby..."
1. I'm not sure who denies this as everyone knows Ryle Nugent is a rugby man.

2. Our rugby team is about as good as it's ever been and their win in South Africa was historical.

3. The programme was at what, 10pm last night? A Thursday night. Hardly prime time television.

4. RTE didn't even show the NZ game last week, the Canada game tomorrow is being shown, the first live game since the 6 nations in mid March, while the team has played 4 games against arguably the 2 most successful sides in rugby history in the meantime.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5297 - 11/11/2016 09:34:23    1933511

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Replying To alano12:  "i dont know if anybody noticed but the rugby team received a documentary for their win over south africa over the summer...and people say rte arent biased towards rugby..."
eh dont rte show , the toughest trade, pairc life, the geansai, thank gaa its friday
the championship draw (dont show rugby equivalent), the all stars (dont show rugby equivalent) , up for the match (dont show a rugby equivalent)

the geansai episode show the pitch in inisturk being a highlight for me - even got to have puck about there on hols during summer

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2016 10:14:21    1933519

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