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Can the GAA survive the Rugby onslaught

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Replying To janesboro:  "Until rugby gets rid of the reasons (which are plainly there for all to see) that cause the preception, the perception will continue to be exist.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:10212 - 09/11/2016 16:36:33

until people actually go to a rugby club and see for themselves that pereception will continue to exist.

your loss my friend"
you do realise people can have a different viewpoint to you?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/11/2016 21:13:35    1933157

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Oh we get it (and to be honest the Dublin clique is getting old at this stage) but all anyone is asking is that Mes be a bit more open minded.

Read my first post on the topic. I don't let the fact that rugby in Ulster is played mainly by the Protestant/Unionist community stop me from supporting the team that represents the 9 counties of Ulster. Things are slowly changing but even if they weren't it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to me."
and thats your view which you are entitled to..why are you trying to force it on others though?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/11/2016 21:14:09    1933158

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Replying To alano12:  "you do realise people can have a different viewpoint to you?"
i do and i also realise that if somebody who has never been to a club rugby game/been involved in rugby has an opposite view, there is the probability that they could form a different view as a result of going to a club game or participating in the game in some way, which i would encourage anybody to do ....if the dont its both their loss and as mesamis says its also the games loss, in my experience the vast majority of club rugby people all over ireland are dead nice people

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/11/2016 21:58:37    1933170

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What are the IRB doing to get the likes of Georgia & Romania up to the next level? The Polynesian Island teams still get many of their players pilfered by the AllBlacks, Wallabies & England.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3125 - 09/11/2016 14:45:20 1933039

baffled why somebody would dislike this post -- and you got france as well having fijian, italy have one too - Id like
-1 make the 6 nations into 7 nations - and winner of ERC nations cup getting promoted into it - probably wont happen
-2 let non tier 2 players who have played with a tier 1 nation go back to their tier 2 nations e.g. if a fijian plays for france , allow him return to play for fiji

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/11/2016 22:07:18    1933174

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Replying To janesboro:  "i do and i also realise that if somebody who has never been to a club rugby game/been involved in rugby has an opposite view, there is the probability that they could form a different view as a result of going to a club game or participating in the game in some way, which i would encourage anybody to do ....if the dont its both their loss and as mesamis says its also the games loss, in my experience the vast majority of club rugby people all over ireland are dead nice people"
thats your experience...iv had a different experience in my own area...and the perception mesamis speaks about is very real and off putting for many..people need to understand dublin is a lot different to the rest of the country

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/11/2016 22:20:03    1933177

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alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:884 - 09/11/2016 22:20:03 1

what clubs or schools were involved --
have been to marys and trinity so far this season was in lansdowne ucd belvo and clontarf (love clontarf) -didnt have any problems

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/11/2016 22:46:14    1933180

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Replying To janesboro:  "alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:884 - 09/11/2016 22:20:03 1

what clubs or schools were involved --
have been to marys and trinity so far this season was in lansdowne ucd belvo and clontarf (love clontarf) -didnt have any problems"
neither of those 2 you mentioned

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/11/2016 23:05:36    1933185

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Replying To tomsmith:  "i just wonder where the GAA will be in the next 50 years
such competition exists for the services of our sporting Youths that i fear that the GAA will get swamped by it all.
Look at a current team from another sport who are doing well in the east of Ireland and all the publicity that the gather with only a hand full of spectators at sporting fixture that the have appeared in .
Look at the PR machine that following the irl ruggers to the mid west this weekend. It was all hyped up.
The GAA has to waken up and promote our game"
there are about 12 rugby clubs in Connacht. In the whole province!

I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

They are giving development contracts to the most talented youth athletes in GAA heartlands who are playing schools rugby and on developmental squads, but once they are not wanted they are discarded.
Professional sport is a cutthroat business

manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 09/11/2016 23:25:04    1933189

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What onslaught? Look at County Final attendances and tell me that people are losing interest in the GAA over rugby.

We will have the media love in for a few weeks over rugby but thats it

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 10/11/2016 09:16:27    1933208

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Tom you need to pull this thread back from the brink!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 10/11/2016 09:27:48    1933213

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Think there is room for all games...just enjoy it. Nothing better than a full blooded competitive rugby game.
Rugby is most popular in the cities...but growing exponentially in Cork and Galway.
Dublin, Belfast and Limerick were always strongholds
Gaelic football will continue to thrive...Mayo/Dublin/Kerry competition is keen. Rugby not really played much in counties such as Mayo and Donegal.
Hurling also competitive..great to see the Glen in Munster club final

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/11/2016 09:39:01    1933216

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The word onslaught is a bit ott, there is no threat to gaelic games from any sport,but in my opinion if there is a threat to gaelic games it will come from within.

Scallioneater (Carlow) - Posts: 294 - 10/11/2016 09:41:53    1933217

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Replying To alano12:  "and thats your view which you are entitled to..why are you trying to force it on others though?"
I haven't?? Strange comment.


I just explained my own POV, and explained what some other posters were getting at (i.e. that they do "get it", they're just putting an alternative view across)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5297 - 10/11/2016 09:56:50    1933219

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AGAIN,

No threat. Most lads who attend the local CBS and play GAA will realise that they have a much better chance playing at the highest level in GAA rather than Rugby because of the obvious elitism in Rugby circles.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 10/11/2016 10:22:48    1933239

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Replying To Rockies:  "Think there is room for all games...just enjoy it. Nothing better than a full blooded competitive rugby game.
Rugby is most popular in the cities...but growing exponentially in Cork and Galway.
Dublin, Belfast and Limerick were always strongholds
Gaelic football will continue to thrive...Mayo/Dublin/Kerry competition is keen. Rugby not really played much in counties such as Mayo and Donegal.
Hurling also competitive..great to see the Glen in Munster club final"
I disagree rugby in Belfast is mainly strong in south of the city, similar to Dublin I suppose were the money is.

There are pockets here and there in east and north Belfast, again mainly in the leafy suburbs and nothing whatsoever in West Belfast.

So, similar to most of the country and very definitely like dublin it is a game mainly played by the middle and upper classes.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 10/11/2016 10:37:43    1933245

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Replying To Rockies: "Think there is room for all games...just enjoy it. Nothing better than a full blooded competitive rugby game.
yep agree - or also a full blodded hurling of football game

most of the growth in rugby is gaa guys getting involved in a different sport but still playing or staying involved in gaa and hurling /football remaining the preferred sport but with rugby now at sport no 2/3 or 4 . Rugby wont threaten the gaa

at the time of euro 88 and italia 90 - people thought gaa would take over soccer - it didnt - GAA fans realised they could like GAA and soccer as well and now they realise they can like rugby and other sports too - GAA will always be top dog - nothing wrong with that but its ok to like other sports too

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/11/2016 11:08:12    1933253

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Replying To Rockies: "Think there is room for all games...just enjoy it. Nothing better than a full blooded competitive rugby game.
yep agree - or also a full blooded hurling of football game

most of the growth in rugby is gaa guys getting involved in a different sport but still playing or staying involved in gaa and hurling /football remaining the preferred sport but with rugby now at sport no 2/3 or 4 . Theres plenty of rugby fans who follow gaa too. Rugby wont threaten the gaa

at the time of euro 88 and italia 90 - people thought gaa would take over soccer - it didnt - GAA fans realised they could like GAA and soccer as well and now they realise they can like rugby and other sports too - GAA will always be top dog - nothing wrong with that but its ok to like other sports too

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/11/2016 11:12:03    1933255

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Replying To bumpernut:  "I disagree rugby in Belfast is mainly strong in south of the city, similar to Dublin I suppose were the money is.

There are pockets here and there in east and north Belfast, again mainly in the leafy suburbs and nothing whatsoever in West Belfast.

So, similar to most of the country and very definitely like dublin it is a game mainly played by the middle and upper classes."
Bumper nut.
Is rugby in Belfast mainly a unionist /Protestant game?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 10/11/2016 11:13:15    1933256

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Replying To bumpernut:  "I disagree rugby in Belfast is mainly strong in south of the city, similar to Dublin I suppose were the money is.

There are pockets here and there in east and north Belfast, again mainly in the leafy suburbs and nothing whatsoever in West Belfast.

So, similar to most of the country and very definitely like dublin it is a game mainly played by the middle and upper classes."
That's all very well Bumpernut, but I'm gonna wait for Ormo and Janesboros definitive account of rugby in Belfast. :)

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12440 - 10/11/2016 11:45:08    1933268

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neither of those 2 you mentioned
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:886 - 09/11/2016 23:05:36

alano what clubs were involved

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/11/2016 11:45:44    1933269

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