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Replying To Superglue:  "The Keeper issue has been done to death but I've a question about the actual black card given to Hennelly.
My understanding is that the replacement player comes on in the next break in play. If that's true then technically Clarke couldn't have stood for the penalty, unless Mayo subbed another player to get him on the field. Anyone know if this is correct?"
Byrne came on for Cooper almost immediately as well.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 03/10/2016 10:34:34    1921759

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Actually Rob Hennelly did'nt award the penalty. It wasReferee who decided it . There was as always a lack of consistency and underhand pressure on officials. There is also inexplicable decision not to support them with tmo. and other aids.No black card for Small but yes for lessor offences. Were officials 'encouraged' to look out for certain opportunities/watch certain players. This all adds up to unreasonable stress on amateur players and officials.
Ashrules (Dublin) -

I agree with you comment and may I add that the biggest problem are the guys adding new rules (yellow card , black card) making the game impossible to Ref by any single individual. We need to go back to the drawing board, simplify the rules and keep all these guys like McGee who has not been involved in football for over 30 years away from the panel who's job it is to revise.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/10/2016 10:35:16    1921761

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Actually Rob Hennelly did'nt award the penalty. It wasReferee who decided it . There was as always a lack of consistency and underhand pressure on officials. There is also inexplicable decision not to support them with tmo. and other aids.No black card for Small but yes for lessor offences. Were officials 'encouraged' to look out for certain opportunities/watch certain players. This all adds up to unreasonable stress on amateur players and officials."
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Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 03/10/2016 10:38:20    1921765

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Why not just clear up the black card rule by saying that a cynical tackle where your opponent actual has the ball is deemed a yellow but off the ball is black. As in a block tackle, ankle tap or a cynical pull when a man is running off you with no ball is a black but if you're tackling a man with the ball if you over do it or in both keegan and cooper's incidents at the weekend it was nearly instinct and not extreme foul play. At least there would be a bit more clarity and it would help referees? Also any truth in this 2 referee talk that's going on? Might be a better and more feasible option than TMO

overthebar14 (UK) - Posts: 19 - 04/10/2016 11:04:00    1922281

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Replying To mhaith_fear:  "My understanding of this rule is that you must still be in possession of the ball while on the ground before being allowed play it on the ground. If you drop the ball when hitting the ground you cannot play it on the ground as it's no longer in your possession. Open to correction tho."
I think "may fist or palm the ball away on the ground, and may score by so doing" means the player on the ground may fist the ball away, and not that the ball on the ground may be fisted or palmed away. But I too am open to correction.

And in case there's any doubt that a goal can be fist-passed when you're on the ground, look at Exception (ii) to Rule 3.1:

Exceptions
A player on the team attacking a goal and who
is in possession of the ball may not score:
(i) by carrying the ball over his opponents'
goal line;
(ii) a goal with his hands except as provided
in Rule 1.2, Exception (ii) but may score a
point with the open hand(s) or fist.

...which points back to the other rule.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1167 - 05/10/2016 07:52:20    1922687

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