You can't say that it's all about the great coaching and the amount of money put into Dublin and then turn a blind eye to counties like Kerry, Mayo and Donegal, all of whom can, and have, turned Dublin over at various stages

That is a misnomer as those teams combined have beaten Dublin three times in the last 18 matches at Croke Park over the last 5 years.

Now if the 'Top 4' teams (from 2011-2015) can only manage a win ratio of 16% vs the Blue Goliath what hope do the others have

Regarding funding Kerry have received €45k per annum for Games Development and a one-off payment of €1m from Croke Park for our COE in Currans the rest had to be fundraised by the Kerry CB so the give the impression it's a level playing field is a fallacy

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 21/04/2016 15:45:19    1848027

HERESAM " look at roscommon the best team they have had in decades and they couldn't even build a decent stadium.
Look at meath in navan the same"

Well Could you point out the decent stadium dublin own please?
Parrell park is not a decent stadium and your being housed at the min in everyones stadium.

Get a decent stadium yourselves then have a pop at everybody else,s.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 745 - 21/04/2016 15:45:26    1848028

You're dead right Yourejoking, not only does Dublin not have a decent stadium, it doesn't have a centre of excellence either. Instead Dublin has been concentrating on games development and that's where the money has been going. In fairness, that's some coach that Roscommon have. Who cares about having a swimming pool for a pitch when you can spend 250K on a big yellow bus.

Master, I have no gripe with funding currently going to Dublin (who incidentally generate a lot of that funding themselves) being dispersed across the provinces for GPOs if that is what people think will make them more successful. As long as it doesn't go on fancy new clubhouses, holidays in the Bahamas and on big yellow buses. It takes lots of hard work at underage level within the clubs you know. It's volunteer coaches (Dads mostly) week in week out working with kids that makes the difference.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 21/04/2016 18:35:54    1848103

If anything this is very dissapointing from a Dublin perspective, Dublin will come under huge pressure to use this facility, when preferably the plan was to have our own. Being at the forefront of all things coaching and sports sceince, I don't want really want to share a facility with other counties, leave Abbotstown for dog walking.

I agree with many on here, I'm getting a bit tired with these projects in our county, we already provide the venue for the biggest games in the country in our and we are nothing but gracious hosts to our country visitors in our county, it's about time the rest of the county got their acts together and took up some slack.

Again we host this weekend, our county invaded, enjoy the visit.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4518 - 21/04/2016 21:41:28    1848146

If anything this is very dissapointing from a Dublin perspective, Dublin will come under huge pressure to use this facility, when preferably the plan was to have our own. Being at the forefront of all things coaching and sports sceince, I don't want really want to share a facility with other counties, leave Abbotstown for dog walking.

I agree with many on here, I'm getting a bit tired with these projects in our county, we already provide the venue for the biggest games in the country in our and we are nothing but gracious hosts to our country visitors in our county, it's about time the rest of the county got their acts together and took up some slack.

Again we host this weekend, our county invaded, enjoy the visit.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4518 - 21/04/2016 21:41:50    1848149

We got your point the first time username. It doesn't get away from the fact that Dublin footballers in particular have no outlay on either a stadium or a centre of excellence. I don't agree that Parnell Park is a poor stadium. I have been the for matches when it is full and the atmosphere is outstanding. Small or no outlay on a stadium and a centre of excellence saves huge money that can be ploughed in to games development. Dublin is already significantly advantaged in terms of the games development grants given to them in proportion to the rest of the country. Advantages such as that should not be compounded by free stadia and centres of excellence. Joxer, GAA people don't need lectures as to how to work with young footballers. We are doing that over the length and breadth of the country. I agree with a lot of what you have to say Joxer but the point that Dublin have huge financial advantages accruing to them as a result of decisions of The GAA cannot be denied.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 22/04/2016 10:10:43    1848181

Huge financial advantages, huge population advantages.

The GAA is not a professional sport and the measure of the county should be what takes place on the field of play, not by how many millions it spends. Dublin has received north of €15million over the past 12 years and it's an extra advantage they shouldn't have needed. Back in 2004, they were nowhere in hurling and underachieving in football. To be crowing about structures etc when the rest of the country is financing a single county is very conceited. If this was done ''all on your own'', it'd be one thing, but for the rest of the GAA world to suffer because Dublin needs to be ballooned up is simply unfair.

There should be a central pot of funds, from which each county runs its year. If a country progresses, they get an additional installment. Each county should be forced to contribute (like the EU), but counties with bigger populations would be net contributors and the smaller counties would be net recipients. There would be a matrix for status/population/progress etc and each county's allocation would be derived from this. It'dbe somewhat similar to how the NFL is run.

Of course, some counties would source off-books financing, but there's little to be done about that. All expenditure would have to be vouched and should be traceable through all books of accounts.

We have to stop this model of the Premier League where might is right. The GAA does allow for population advantages, but ultimately, there should be a level of fair-play and competitiveness which Croke Park seem hell bent on eliminating. When Dublin will their 10-in-a-row, will they wake up?

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 22/04/2016 10:47:18    1848190

You missed my point Greengrass. My point was that for those crowing on about Dublin having more GPOs than any other county and pointing to this as the reasons for their success, that's nonsense, the underage scene is where the real work is done.

Cully, did you say that the rest of the country is financing Dublin??? Or did you actually mean that the rest of the country wants more of the money that Dublin generates? Do you think that there are other factors involved in Dublin's recent success, other than money. Most of that Dublin panel have been playing the game for a lot longer than the 12 years over which you claim that Dublin received millions. What if you looked at the money proportionately? How much should Dublin receive with it's population versus let's say, Laois, with a population of say 80,000? How many full time GPOs do you need in Laois? It's all relative at the end of the day b

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 22/04/2016 18:53:48    1848349

I agree Joxer. We are all working with young footballers at underage . I fully accept your point that a lot of that work is done on a voluntary basis in clubs in Dublin . However the same is true in every county in Ireland . It's when development squads are being turned in to elite squads that financial resources make a major difference.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 22/04/2016 19:49:50    1848369

Its not often I agree with Ulsterman, but I do think he was talking sense when he claimed that many people in the GAA seem to think that so long as Dublin GAA is strong, then everything else is secondary.
Thats not a dig at Dublin btw. Look at Westmeath. Three consecutive relegations. Thats not Dublins fault, but all the same I do think that those in the GAA need to remember that there are 31 other counties to be worrying about too.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 23/04/2016 19:56:08    1848545

With all this inequity in funding, I wonder how many other counties would be interested in decentralised funding?

Open it up and let each county, keep there own generated income, attendance money, commercial revenue, sponsorship etc.

Not many I would think, I wonder are the biggest counties at a financial disadvantage in developing their own counties development by the current funding model.

I mean would the likes of Dublin, Cork, Galway etc be financially better off without a centralised "inequitable' system - as many posters have described it.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4518 - 25/04/2016 14:52:52    1849229

Dublin fans pay their own way. All this revenue generated by Dublin should be given to other counties.......in some kind of bonanza payment.

And this money will make everything fair.........shazzzzzzzam........ Magic

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 25/04/2016 18:29:31    1849404