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I doubt if we will ever join up with another county just to win something. Maybe the large counties could share part of their professional back up teams with the smaller neighbours. I am sure these guys would appreciate the extra work. GAA to pay for it. wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 450 - 27/01/2016 08:21:31 1819589 Link 0 |
Another nonsense suggestion. I'd love to see the reaction from O'Shea to the same suggestion if Mayo were no hopers and asked to join forces with one of their rival counties. Similarly Donal Og if Cork were asked to ditch their county colours to play for a provincial select...you know the way the Railway Cup is sooo widely followed! SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2589 - 27/01/2016 08:59:01 1819594 Link 0 |
Goes against everything the GAA stands for. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1541 - 27/01/2016 10:09:16 1819612 Link 0 |
It's a radical suggestion but the Championship needs a radical overhaul. Nobody in rugby followed Ulster/Munster/Leinster until the PRO12 was setup, it was all about the club game. I think you'd be surprised how quickly GAA people would get behind the new districts/areas/whatever, especially if a lad from your club was on a team that had a realistic chance of provincial or All-Ireland silverware. The counties are a colonial hangover and should be scrapped in both GAA and local govt. Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 27/01/2016 10:09:55 1819613 Link 0 |
It's a radical suggestion but the Championship needs a radical overhaul. Nobody in rugby followed Ulster/Munster/Leinster until the PRO12 was setup, it was all about the club game. I think you'd be surprised how quickly GAA people would get behind the new districts/areas/whatever, especially if a lad from your club was on a team that had a realistic chance of provincial or All-Ireland silverware. The counties are a colonial hangover and should be scrapped in both GAA and local govt. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/01/2016 10:17:24 1819620 Link 0 |
I proposed this "radical" idea couple years back on here.I didn't have one poster who agreed.I think it has serious merit but dont think for one minute it will happen. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/01/2016 10:20:01 1819621 Link 0 |
I would not agree with it myself but that's Aidan's opinion and he is entitled to it. The backlash on social media against Aidan and Mayo is predictable. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11690 - 27/01/2016 11:08:06 1819635 Link 0 |
This makes it seem like he's somehow spearheading a campaign for amalgamating counties. It was in a discussion about all the different proposals and he suggested some club amalgamations would've been unheard of 20 years ago, eg Hollymount Carramore, but look at them now so maybe it has merits. Was pretty much agreed that it would never happen though. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12452 - 27/01/2016 11:09:11 1819636 Link 0 |
My local team are Shi7 , I spend more time based on a 12 month period watching teams from my club than I do the Dubs , we won an intermediate championship back when I wore short trousers , we have never won anything of note in hurling that I can recall , we look on enviously at bigger clubs with more resources and dream , Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 27/01/2016 11:13:03 1819639 Link 0 |
Why would O Shea get abuse for this?He's only trying to give every player a fair chance of success.He knows Mayo will always have a decent chance of winning honours.So do i with Dublin.We are trying to even up the playing field for all. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/01/2016 11:15:04 1819641 Link 0 |
Why amalgamate counties ? why not just split Kerry,Mayo,Cork,Tyrone & Dublin in two lasertech (UK) - Posts: 129 - 27/01/2016 11:30:35 1819644 Link 0 |
I don't agree with amalgamation. A Carlow v Wexford derby means as much to some locals as Cork v Kerry or Armagh v Tyrone. Arguably it means even more as these are counties without much recent success and it's easier to follow your county with a realistic chance of silverware and/or Croke Park. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8170 - 27/01/2016 11:32:36 1819646 Link 0 |
Damo,why have many,many parishes amalgamated in every county over the years?Out of neccessity and practicality i imagine.Take Ballyhale Shamrocks for instance;3 small junior clubs with little chance of success decided to amalgamate in the 60s/70(not 100% sure)for the greater good of the area.I'm sure there was strong inter-parish rivalry and some opposition but look what they have achieved;the record for senior club All Irelands. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/01/2016 11:34:54 1819648 Link 0 |
Lasertech,did you ever hear of club teams splitting in half to give every club a better chance of winning?Did anyone propose Nemo Rangers or Crossmaglen to split?Of course they haven't.Have hundreds of clubs amalgamated over the years to strenghten and compete?In every county up and down the country?Yes they have. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/01/2016 11:39:52 1819650 Link 0 |
Would there be any merit in trialling this and see how in plays out. BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 216 - 27/01/2016 11:46:51 1819653 Link 0 |
If you explore around the country you will find that as a total very few parishes have amalgamated- lot of junior teams in the one parish have amalgamated in many counties. You will find that within some counties the clubs with most senior championships are only part of a parish. However, if you have a large population you do have a better chance of winning given proper management of resources. Dublin is very well managed at present with a population of over 1m. If you were to amalgamate some counties to reach that population then you could have maybe 10 counties combined. Maybe the better solution is divide the large counties and in that way you would be giving more footballers inter county football. There are exceptions to large populations: Offaly is an exception to large population but that is an infrequent occurrence and of course Kerry keep winning- I often wonder what the feed them on! browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/01/2016 12:00:05 1819659 Link 0 |
I'm actually bored by this because counties amalgamating is inevitable. realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 27/01/2016 12:08:16 1819662 Link 0 |
Come on browncow,that 1 milliom population argument doesn't hold up.We've gone over this so many times.I dont know the figures but i would guess that GAA participation per head of population is probably lower in Dublin than any other county.Maybe in Kerry 70% of young lads play GAA.In Dublin it could be 20%. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/01/2016 12:09:30 1819663 Link 0 |
They dont feed them on anything different browncow.GAA is just part of their culture.A very important part. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/01/2016 12:16:19 1819667 Link 0 |
If counties were ever to amalgamate, it should be at their own request and not passed down to them from those on high. Like the proposals for division 4 teams not to progress in the championship unless they reach a provincial final it's the top looking after the top counties first and feck those so-called weaker counties. Amalgamating counties does away with the pride in county tradition passed on through generations. If they want to try and improve standards then scrap the existing league and have 4 divisions of 2 from each division and at least lower league counties get tested in higher standard but are still getting games. Slowly they can improve their standard. Something needs to be done to improve the standard of counties in lower leagues. Amalgamation won't do that, it'll just hide weaker counties and make the top teams stronger. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8170 - 27/01/2016 12:19:01 1819668 Link 0 |