Is this so called perception of bias real ?
As someone who has read and watched both Southern GAA coverage and some of the Nothern print and TV coverage I honestly think it's far more a siege us against them mentality in the 6 counties. Plus on here I don't see any province collectively see themselves as one like Ulster do.

If Mayo go out I certainly don't want Galway or Roscommon winning - yet some from Ulster seem to get behind the Ulster county at all costs - we know one well known poster who that rules aspires to. Hence his nickname ;)

Elvis1935 (Mayo) - Posts: 46 - 07/05/2015 17:02:48    1721323

Is this so called perception of bias real ?

Is this an oxymoron.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 07/05/2015 20:33:29    1721395

Not sure whos biased here Elvis. I mean, why would you not want Roscommon to win something once it wasnt at Mayos expense?

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 07/05/2015 20:44:20    1721400

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1721323 Is this so called perception of bias real ?
As someone who has read and watched both Southern GAA coverage and some of the Nothern print and TV coverage I honestly think it's far more a siege us against them mentality in the 6 counties. Plus on here I don't see any province collectively see themselves as one like Ulster do.

If Mayo go out I certainly don't want Galway or Roscommon winning - yet some from Ulster seem to get behind the Ulster county at all costs - we know one well known poster who that rules aspires to. Hence his nickname ;)

I don't know if there is a bias against Ulster sides in general, That's not something I would say is accurate.

There is definitely a few Journalists in the National Media, who are embarrassingly parochial and constantly guilty of Inaccurate reporting and ass kissing their own teams. Generally speaking, they only disrespect Ulster sides if a particular Ulster side are a credible threat to their own sides ambitions. However I would not say this is exclusively anti-Ulster, but rather anti-anybody who are a threat.

You speak of the 6 counties, but Ulster has 9 counties and Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are very much part of our little clique. While there is plenty of rivalry within Ulster, most folk would still wish other Ulster counties well on their endeavours after their own sides have been knocked out. Now in saying that, you will always get the odd bell end who is too self centred to wish any other team well.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 07/05/2015 20:44:50    1721402

Oh sweet mother of god, this is exactly what we need right now.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/05/2015 20:49:22    1721405

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ha, was thinking the same thing myself.

Listen, there is no such thing as a concerted bias one way or the other, the only thing we have is poor journalism and 'pop star' pundits always looking out for that killer soundbite.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 07/05/2015 21:05:25    1721413

Ulsterman will be tripping over himself when he see's this. Prepare yourselves........

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 07/05/2015 21:15:01    1721416

Ya there is a lot of guff from journalists that doesn't make much sense. The Waterford being the "Donegal" of hurling is the latest one and that was started by a journalist from Tipp :)

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/05/2015 21:46:06    1721425

Another thread on Ulster!we may have to partiton the Hoganstand soon the way its going lads

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 601 - 07/05/2015 21:48:24    1721429

I think there is a certain amount of grievance and paranoia from our Ulster freinds in the North in GAA terms, some justified, some not. Remember they have had to deal with alot down the years...the underbelly of divide is still there....heard it myself this morning on RTE's extensive coverage of the British elections, Tory party members describing nationalism as the grievance syndrome and DUP leaders shouting "this is not Bobby Sand's" seat....such rubbish nationalist people have to listen up there.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11540 - 08/05/2015 08:19:38    1721436

I think connaught would support each other a lot more than muster would. I remember the minor semi final tipp very roscommon and the mayo fans were cheering on roscommon as if it was mayo playing, on the other hand kerry didn't raise a murmur for tipp in that game or the (not that I'm giving out about that).

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 08/05/2015 08:39:47    1721440

Another thread on Ulster!we may have to partiton the Hoganstand soon the way its going lads

I can think of a good few on here who would be tripping over themselves to get the ink to paper on that treaty.

We're on the one road
Sharing the one load
We're on the road to Sam Maguire
We're on the one road
They wished there were two roads
But we're together now so there

Munster, Connacht, Leinster comrades all
Nordies, Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal
We're on the one road swinging along
All swinging like Tyrone

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 08/05/2015 09:08:07    1721444

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1721436 I think there is a certain amount of grievance and paranoia from our Ulster freinds in the North in GAA terms, some justified, some not. Remember they have had to deal with alot down the years...the underbelly of divide is still there....heard it myself this morning on RTE's extensive coverage of the British elections, Tory party members describing nationalism as the grievance syndrome and DUP leaders shouting "this is not Bobby Sand's" seat....such rubbish nationalist people have to listen up there.

I think there is a different outlook in Ulster as a whole in GAA terms, definitely a different mental attitude to other provinces. I don't agree about grievance or Paranoia, I think that can be more accurately applied to some quarters further south who felt their perceived GAA order threatened.

We don't look at Kerry in awe, or as if they are genetically superior. We see their success is down to underage training focus and then structures at bringing players continuously into the senior setup. The fact they have consistently been winning All Ireland's every decade for many years, gives them the added winning belief in their abilities. This is something to be studied and learned from.

We have seen 5 different Ulster teams winning All Ireland titles in the past 23-24 years, with Tyrone, Down and Donegal winning more than one All Ireland title. The next challenge for Ulster Sides, Is how to achieve sustained success and build upon it.

The cultural division in the North between Unionist and Nationalists will not change, however the political landscape will definitely change radically in the next 5-10 years. Demographics already show we are on the brink of a Nationalist majority within the 6 counties, so expect Unionists to soften their approach in coming years and they will start an attempt to appeal to those within the Nationalist area's via threat of Economic demise.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 08/05/2015 13:46:55    1721530

I will not get into yet another debate on the subject as such.

However given these threads are common as muck I think when trying to understand the mentailty that exists behind them it is worth noting that the vast majority of these threads are started by Southern posters.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/05/2015 13:59:40    1721540

Actually worth noting many posters seem to agree that Ulster stands together while in 'the South' there is much more of 'Every man for himself'. I suppose why change the habit of generations.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/05/2015 14:44:08    1721553

There are biases in every news medium, as the editorial team needs to prioritise what their audience wants to hear or read. Agendas are a different thing altogether.

I have great respect for Northern Gaels, given what they have gone through and the threats that they continue to face. I remember reading that St. Enda's GAA Club in Belfast is the most bombed sporting institution in the world, but I'm open to correction on that.

Billy Joe Padden remarked once that when he moved to Armagh, that he noticed that the local GAA Club is often the centre of a lot of social activity for many Nationalists in the North, while it wouldn't really be so in the West other than for the odd dinner dance here and there. Ryan McMenamin also was quoted as saying that he felt that many southerners didn't really register the sacrifices that Northern Gaels make to play gaelic games.

I think there are misunderstandings on both sides of the divide, to be honest.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 08/05/2015 15:34:19    1721577

People from Leinster, Munster and Connacht refer to people in Ulster as Nordies. People in Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal are from Ulster but call people from the 6 as Nordies. People in the wee six class Ulster as just that ... the wee six. It all gets very confusing!! I have had many a conversation in Dublin with people wondering how we get on with exchanging our money before we come to Dublin.
Media is biased depending on its target audience and therefore the Dublin based media are biased towards Dublin and naturally so. The Irish papers aren't feely available in Northern Ireland and therefore don't really care what opinion is had of them in those 6 counties. The Gaelic Life is more of an Ulster paper and therefore biased towards Ulster Counties (more the wee six though in fairness).

My point is that if you read media that is favourable to your cause then you will keep reading it therefore the media will play the tune that the mob desires!!

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 08/05/2015 16:50:32    1721607

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People from Leinster, Munster and Connacht refer to people in Ulster as Nordies. People in Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal are from Ulster but call people from the 6 as Nordies. People in the wee six class Ulster as just that ... the wee six. It all gets very confusing!! I have had many a conversation in Dublin with people wondering how we get on with exchanging our money before we come to Dublin.
Media is biased depending on its target audience and therefore the Dublin based media are biased towards Dublin and naturally so. The Irish papers aren't feely available in Northern Ireland and therefore don't really care what opinion is had of them in those 6 counties. The Gaelic Life is more of an Ulster paper and therefore biased towards Ulster Counties (more the wee six though in fairness).

My point is that if you read media that is favourable to your cause then you will keep reading it therefore the media will play the tune that the mob desires!!

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That's a fair enough post although if Irish papers are so hard to come by in the wee six, you would have to wonder where Ulsterman gets his neverending supply of 'Southern papers' from. Is there some of Irish Times cross-border smuggling racket going on or something??

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4740 - 08/05/2015 17:51:11    1721626

Tir Conaill Abu Ulster is 9 Counties, who told you different? Certainly noone I know has ever referred to it as 6. I do recall being at a wedding where the Bride was from monaghan and her brother talked about how she was going to be leaving monaghan to go and live up in Ulster- thought it most curious:)

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/05/2015 18:23:11    1721636

Definitely seems to be a media bias, RTE are showing the first 3 Ulster matches live on consecutive weeks. Disgraceful stuff altogether

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1067 - 08/05/2015 21:46:10    1721688