There's not enough room at St clonleths to build a 40 thousand staduim it's right in the middle of Newbridge town Navan the same .

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 04/12/2014 15:40:14    1676647

cuederocket
By moderate improvements I meant the toilets new security barriers on the terraces. As regards the capacity you're right. The capacity was reduced from 14,000 to 7,000 without any substantial reason for doing so despite there never having been any Health ans Safety issues with attendances of between 10,000 and 14,000.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3027 - 04/12/2014 15:40:26    1676648

clondalkindub no one is suggesting a 40k stadium in Newbridge and Navan. Starting to think the Dubs here are deliberately being difficult and coming up with red herrings and false arguments. Didn't realise they wanted an M50 Bowl so much!

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 04/12/2014 16:08:01    1676656

I think its an idea worth exploring. A top class 40-50K modern stadium is needed and you are not going to be allowed to build one in the middle of some town. Its funny how people think that the attendance at games in their counties will never go beyond the current numbers - ten years time the same people would be on here blaming the GAA for them not being able to get tickets or not having the foresight to build a stadium on the M50. Also remember the LGFA and Camogie, while its great to have them in CP the place is really dead despite the 25-30k raising hell however they deserve to be in a modern stadium for their showcase. There are a lot of plus points to it, I find it odd that so many people would come out and dismiss it straight away but then again whats new about that.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1945 - 04/12/2014 16:36:07    1676665

Well said zinny.There are some that would never change a thing if they were here till eternity.It took the GAA 130 years to bring in the black card.A lot of posters on here have zero foresight.Stuck in a time warp.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/12/2014 17:00:07    1676672

zinny

There are a lot of plus points to it, I find it odd that so many people would come out and dismiss it straight away but then again whats new about that.

To be honest I think that's quite a flippant comment, I mean for a start Wexford Park looks like a pretty good ground 'so what do I care' appears to be your attitude, I'm not so sure you'd be as supportive of a 40k+ stadium near the M50 if Wexford Park was in as bad a state as the county grounds in Kildare, Louth, Meath and Wicklow. Also I'm not speaking out specifically against a Stadium near the M50 but rather all county grounds badly in need of repair should be prioritized over any new stadium near the M50.

Sort out the players and fans who put up with dilapidated facilities within their own county first, then the Gaa can build their very own Burj Khalifa for all I care.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/12/2014 17:30:30    1676687

I agree completely Htaem. cuederocket, I hope that it doesn't take the GAA another 130 years to get rid of the black card.I have seen to many inconistencies of its implementation already this season.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3027 - 04/12/2014 18:35:07    1676716

Lilywhite i was only using the black card as an example of how slow the GAA move at implementing any change.Lets all keep an open mind on this proposed new stadium.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/12/2014 18:44:11    1676721

cuderocket

aughrim and gaelic grounds in drogheda are both lower capacity grounds than newbridge.
kildare need a new ground not do newbridge up.
the pitch is too small as it is nt to start on the fact they have no room to build.
theres a huge area of land for sale beside kildare village outlet
right on the motorway be perfect for a stadium

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/12/2014 19:00:07    1676726

Hill good idea.Id be up for dat also.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/12/2014 19:04:31    1676729

There is over 1.5 million people in close proximity to the M50.Im sure the powers that be have taken this into account.On that basis alone it is a better location than Kildare or Navan.Wat you think lads?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/12/2014 19:37:16    1676737

I am going to repeat my idea of the stadium being built in Athlone. It makes most sense, for reasons of a shared county grounds for westmeath and roscommon, which if coupled with a centre of excellence, would be a welcome shot in the arm to less developed counties with good potential. It would also double as Galway rugby's ground as it is so close to galway city now. And finally, it would be an excellent neutral venue for matches in the back door, and could serve as an excellent venue during the summer to take the pressure off Croke park if needs be. A stadium off the m50 is a crazy plan, as is the development of pairc ui caoimh. no need for it at all.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 04/12/2014 20:44:07    1676752

Maybe the GAA are trying to develop an alternative ground on the outskirts of Dublin, cost would be a big factor. A lot of county grounds are surrounded by developments which restrict plans to upgrade them. Derby games in Leinster, played home or away have an appeal of their own, would all games be played in the new Stadium?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 04/12/2014 21:31:33    1676763

Like most posters here, I cant really see the point of this proposed M50 stadium. There are a couple of things that I don't quite get.
Firstly how are they going to get enough games into it to make it viable. What games are going to be held there. Dublin's home league games?
League semi-finals. a few Leinster provincial games (but probably not Dublin's), some qualifiers and maybe quarter finals. Maybe when all is added up, there may be enough games to pay for it. But it would take a lot of games to make back the cost of building it.
The other problem I have is what then happens to Croke Park. Is it then to lie idle for most of the year? What games are left to play in it.
League final. Dubin's Leinster football games. Leinster final in football and hurling, all Ireland Semis and finals in football and hurling. It doesn't seem like a lot of games to be hosting in the best stadium in the country. How will that go down with the sponsors, or the owners of premium seats or corporate boxes? Are they not entitled to a fixed number of games per year?
I suspect that part of the plan might be to leave more slots open to host Garth Brooks concerts, or American Football, or anything else they can do to turn a quick buck, with no thought to the average GAA fan.
To me, this plan highlights the growing divide between Croke Park, and the GAA grassroot. It seems to me that there are 2 completely different GAAs out there. The corporate one based in GAA and the local, community based GAA which I and everyone else grew up with. And it seems like the suits in Croke park only have time for the corporate version of the organisation. They only appear to be interested in one-upmanship with the other sporting organisations. Biggest stadium in the country - yep that us. Building a sports campus? - sure count us in. We have no need for it, but if every other sport is there, we wont be left out. Leinster Rugby upgrading the RDS. Sure look at us - we are building a new Leinster stadium on the M50, and if you ask us nicely, we will let you use it for the rugby world cup. To me that's what its all about, the men in suits inflating their own importance
As someone said earlier, the heartbeat of the GAA is the community. Parish then County. As a Meathman, I like to see our county play in its home grounds in Navan. The grounds where I grew up watching the greats of Meath football play. Would I watch them play "home" games in an M50 stadium. Probably. But I think it would be another blow to the community based organisation that we all love.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 04/12/2014 21:32:58    1676764

Donegalman i would agree with you about your points about puc and this M50 idea being daft but i would completely disagree with you about your athlone idea. Roscommon already have a ground while in need of work it is the most county central ground in both Connacht and Ireland make it in to a 25k/30k ground would make alot of sense, it would make no sense moving to athlone which would be a worst location in or outside both the county and the province, similarly Westmeath are building a new stand in mulllingar and Mullingar is a better location in both Westmeath and Leinster. Connacht rugby get about 4 to 6 thousand of a ground so it would be lost in a big stadium, while it would be handier for me if the moved to Athlone it would make no sense to move from Galway. There is a good rugby ground in Athlone already who with a bit of work could hold some Connacht matches. There is a lack of a good site in Athlone as well.

Zinny the ladies footballers and camogie players want to play in the main stadium, the don't want to play on some ground on the outskirts of Dublin. Kildare, Meath, Wicklow and Louth are going to be 4 of the fastest growing counties in Ireland, for the gaa to sort of move out of these counties would be madness.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 04/12/2014 21:58:48    1676772

donegalman

why should the gaa accomadate connaught rugby?
they get only a handfull at games anyway and its nothing to do with us.
roscommon have a big enough ground, just needs modernising no more than most other countys.
westmeath are getting a news stand and dont have the support in football or hurling to
be facilitating a huge stadium.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/12/2014 09:30:32    1676790

Well lads it looks like it being put on the long finger for the time being according to Duffy .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 05/12/2014 10:19:50    1676801

Looks like El Presidente spoke when he shouldn't have, now let Central Council concentrate on upgrading the grounds that badly need it.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3747 - 05/12/2014 11:39:30    1676819

Hopefully that's the end of it and along with the RWC bid this county can move towards a nationwide stadium infrastructure that supports sports locally and doesn't drag them away from their homes unnecessarily.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 05/12/2014 11:45:35    1676825

I don't agree it's far better but your point has much merit as Belfast is not an attendance centric GAA stronghold. But Most if not all Ulster motorways, railways etc converge on Belfast and the site has the M1 running a puck of all ball away from it. So it's a worthwhile venture for that reason even if the final decision was probably political

Omagh was the obvious choice given it too has good communications and a support base But it depends upon the usage of the stadium. If your budding a state of the art ground for the biggest games then I'd rather see it in a city that has the necessary infrastructure. If your building or updating a ground for county purposes then the above criteria don't apply.

If the rugby bid goes ahead these stadia will get built one way or another. I hope they build them in viable locations...

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 05/12/2014 14:24:12    1676884