RTE are a national broadcaster , lots of people do not like any sport let alone GAA. I think a preview programme the night before, live coverage of the match on tv and radio and a highlights programme the following night is more than adequate coverage.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4660 - 27/08/2014 20:31:19    1643208

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RTE are a national broadcaster , lots of people do not like any sport let alone GAA. I think a preview programme the night before, live coverage of the match on tv and radio and a highlights programme the following night is more than adequate coverage.

if it was a replay of a rugby world cup semi final involving ireland
i guarantee you they would be on air ahead of some rerun sitcom

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/08/2014 21:01:45    1643222

Exactly badmonkey. RTE is a national broadcaster with a public service remit which gets us very neatly back to the point about eight ladies rugby internationals being broadcast live and in full on either national television or radio over a period of twelve months whilst during the same time period not one second of any Irish ladies senior soccer international was broadcast live. That ladies soccer team was involved in a World Cup qualifying campaign. They still have two games to go but I won't be holding my breath waiting to see or hear live ladies international soccer on RTE TV or Radio !!!

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6185 - 27/08/2014 21:04:23    1643225

27/08/2014 17:24:00 hill16no1man
yeah but in trms of gaa id say they must take note of viewers as its a new venture and if they are not getting the viewers it wouldnt be profitbale in terms of sponsorship and advertising for them so they would more than likely not look for to renew a contract again You don't know that and while yes viewing figures must be taken into account as its a new venture they may see it as something that will help keep irish subscribers with BT entering market in big way.
27/08/2014 17:26:25 hill16no1man
Ormond your hardly comparing an all ireland semin final to a pro12 mickey mouse game. i ment six nations as thats there main rugby games and they always come on an hour before ireland play. they have that against the head programme during the week forgive me if its not always friday you know what i ment Ignorant as always. "pro12 mickey mous game"
6 Nations are some of the biggest sporting events around and bring in such huge revenue worldwide. Against the Head is Mondays and on about 6/7 weeks of the year
27/08/2014 17:28:45 hill16no1man
ormond they can easily change things around for example when something happens in the dail do they only come on for a few mins not at all they cut out whatever programme is on at that time and go straight to it rte2 on a saturday at 4pm what does be on exactly like a cartoon or animated film maybe a rerun of murder she wrote hardly going to be a massive loss to viewers How do you know its not a massive loss and comparing a sporting event to events in the dail just makes your point look ridiculous

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/08/2014 21:33:35    1643246

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Exactly badmonkey. RTE is a national broadcaster with a public service remit which gets us very neatly back to the point about eight ladies rugby internationals being broadcast live and in full on either national television or radio over a period of twelve months whilst during the same time period not one second of any Irish ladies senior soccer international was broadcast live. That ladies soccer team was involved in a World Cup qualifying campaign. They still have two games to go but I won't be holding my breath waiting to see or hear live ladies international soccer on RTE TV or Radio !!!

sure arent raheny utd in the champions league
will they show their matches?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/08/2014 21:34:38    1643247

ormond

theres hypocrisy at the highest level with your comment saying comparing the dail to sport is ridiculous
when only a couple of months back
you stated that man utd sacking david moyes was more important news headlines than the dail and tragedys that took place the same day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/08/2014 21:41:31    1643251

ormond

its two reruns of an american sitcom that lasted a year
all they had to do was show one episdoe and you would have pleased anybody who actualy stayed home to watch that
and then have the build up from 4.15 from the gaelic grounds
your just being stubborn now

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/08/2014 21:43:49    1643254

27/08/2014 17:33:27 hill16no1man
i looked it up there and its even worse than i thaught
a double bill of malibu country
yes i didnt even know what that was so i googled it
its an american sitcom that ran for one year
an hour of reruns of that takes pride of place to the build up to the all ireland semi final Well maybe RTE feel what they do is enough. Why don't you enquire through your club etc to GAA HQ why you think GAA deserves better coverage or contact RTE as you keep whinging here about the coverage which will change nothing. This is a replay. Schedules change all the time and they may have had to just about fill in the schedule
27/08/2014 17:37:25 bad.monkey
It's a replay, things are already scheduled. Even the GAA have other things scheded and that's why the game is being played in the Gaelic Grounds. Or perhaps the GAA are biased against the GAA too!!!! +1

27/08/2014 19:10:35 Greengrass
158,000 players out of a population of 858,000 whilst New Zealand has a playing population of 149,900 out of a population of 4.5 million. That's why I am sceptical Ormond. I wouldn't be sceptical. Whatever about New Zealand being rugby mad the islands are even more mad about the sport. NZ would be more diverse and more options for people and I think the figure for NZ is underestimated...
27/08/2014 20:19:12 hill16no1man
badmonkey two reruns of an american sitcom that only lasted 1 year in production
come on man would you surely they could have shown the first episode and then scrapped the second one starting at 4.15 and went over to the gaelic grounds for a 45 minute build up
that way you still have your episode of the sitcom for anybody who actually stayed home purposely to watch it Im sure RTE executives and producers and directors and any involved in deciding programme scheduling would know better and felt what was decided was best
27/08/2014 20:31:19 bad.monkey
RTE are a national broadcaster, lots of people do not like any sport let alone GAA. I think a preview programme the night before, live coverage of the match on tv and radio and a highlights programme the following night is more than adequate coverage. +1
27/08/2014 21:01:45 hill16no1man
if it was a replay of a rugby world cup semi final involving ireland
i guarantee you they would be on air ahead of some rerun sitcom .... Rugby doesn't have replays at the top level anymore... every game decided on the day thesedays. They've moved past replays. And yes if such a thing occurred the rugby would be shown
27/08/2014 21:04:23 Greengrass
Exactly badmonkey. RTE is a national broadcaster with a public service remit which gets us very neatly back to the point about eight ladies rugby internationals being broadcast live and in full on either national television or radio over a period of twelve months whilst during the same time period not one second of any Irish ladies senior soccer international was broadcast live. That ladies soccer team was involved in a World Cup qualifying campaign. They still have two games to go but I won't be holding my breath waiting to see or hear live ladies international soccer on RTE TV or Radio !!!Why then do FAI or any major soccer personalities etc talk in media about lack of coverage? Why do we never hear of Dunphy, Giles etc calling for women's soccer to be shown?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/08/2014 21:46:00    1643256

Greengrass it has been explained to you that RTE have shown more womens rugby in the past 12 months as they have been very successful during that period. Similarly when Katie Taylor was fighting during Olympics or Annalese Murphy sailing in the Olympics those sports got lots of coverage as an Irish person /team was competing successfully in big events. You clearly have no understanding of the RTE remit as a national broadcaster.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4660 - 27/08/2014 21:49:20    1643257

ormond

so let me get this straight if it was the rugby world cup this weekend in a replay
you feel it should get a build up on rte
but the all ireland semi final replay shouldnt?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/08/2014 10:20:01    1643311

ormond

what good would sending an email do
are you that childish you think they would even entertain that?
this is a discussion forum whats wrong with discussing it
just because you have no answers and dont like the topic you always then resort to suggesting you send an email or ring up
when you know full well rte are not going to change their way of doing things just because i send an email in

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/08/2014 10:21:47    1643314

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1643257 Greengrass it has been explained to you that RTE have shown more womens rugby in the past 12 months as they have been very successful during that period. Similarly when Katie Taylor was fighting during Olympics or Annalese Murphy sailing in the Olympics those sports got lots of coverage as an Irish person /team was competing successfully in big events. You clearly have no understanding of the RTE remit as a national broadcaster

Doh !!! One of the largest sports in the country from the point of view of ladies participation is not shown live for a single second over the course of a year !!! That's your idea of fulfilling a public service remit. The ladies u-19 squad got to the semi finals of the European Championships during the summer. On the way they beat not one but 3 major soccer nations those being, Sweden, England and Spain. There was very little coverage of that either. A public service remit means you cater for the interests of all sections of society as best you can. Ladies soccer is being ignored whilst ladies rugby in comparison to all other female sports receives colossal coverage. Katy Taylor and Annalise Murphy received coverage because it was The Olympic Games . Neither have had a second of live coverage since. Katy Taylor recently won The European Championships. There was not a second of live coverage of any fight. Katy Taylor herself asked what she had to do to merit live coverage from RTE. Our ladies rugby team finished a distant third in this years Six Nations and every single match was broadcast live and in full on RTE Radio.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6185 - 28/08/2014 11:35:08    1643365

27/08/2014 19:10:35 Greengrass
158,000 players out of a population of 858,000 whilst New Zealand has a playing population of 149,900 out of a population of 4.5 million. That's why I am sceptical Ormond.

I wouldn't be sceptical. Whatever about New Zealand being rugby mad the islands are even more mad about the sport. NZ would be more diverse and more options for people and I think the figure for NZ is underestimated...

Fair enough Ormond. Point taken in relation to Fiji. So it is safe to say that the figures on The IRB website are questionable.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6185 - 28/08/2014 11:37:54    1643369

27/08/2014 21:41:31 hill16no1man
ormond theres hypocrisy at the highest level with your comment saying comparing the dail to sport is ridiculous
when only a couple of months back
you stated that man utd sacking david moyes was more important news headlines than the dail and tragedys that took place the same day Not hypocrisy at all. United story was so large, had effects on stock market so very much relevant to news headlines
27/08/2014 21:43:49 hill16no1man
ormond its two reruns of an american sitcom that lasted a year all they had to do was show one episdoe and you would have pleased anybody who actualy stayed home to watch that and then have the build up from 4.15 from the gaelic grounds
your just being stubborn now Are you an expert in what should and should not be shown on tv thesedays? Im sure the producers etc know much more than you or I and felt what they showed was right in terms of time allocated to each.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/08/2014 12:02:57    1643392

27/08/2014 21:49:20
bad.monkey
Greengrass it has been explained to you that RTE have shown more womens rugby in the past 12 months as they have been very successful during that period. Similarly when Katie Taylor was fighting during Olympics or Annalese Murphy sailing in the Olympics those sports got lots of coverage as an Irish person /team was competing successfully in big events. You clearly have no understanding of the RTE remit as a national broadcaster. ....+1
28/08/2014 10:20:01 hill16no1man
ormond so let me get this straight if it was the rugby world cup this weekend in a replay
you feel it should get a build up on rte
but the all ireland semi final replay shouldnt? A rugby world cup game gone to a replay would only be due to something like a natural disaster or an accident in a stadium etc as they are always decided on the day. Completely different to all Ireland semi final replay in hurling or gaelic
28/08/2014 10:21:47 hill16no1man
ormond what good would sending an email do are you that childish you think they would even entertain that?
this is a discussion forum whats wrong with discussing it
just because you have no answers and dont like the topic you always then resort to suggesting you send an email or ring up
when you know full well rte are not going to change their way of doing things just because i send an email in It would do a lot more than whinging like a petulant child here. There is nothing wrong with discussing things but when this point or similar continuously comes up then there is a significant number on this site who have issues with RTE then why don't they do something about it rather than just whine and moan
If you and a significant number contact RTE and continue to do so they may look to change
Look what happened with women's rugby. RTE had never looked to cover women's rugby but following intense social media campaign and use of top male sportstars as well as media personalities they got games shown

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/08/2014 12:10:25    1643399

28/08/2014 11:35:08 Greengrass
Doh !!! One of the largest sports in the country from the point of view of ladies participation is not shown live for a single second over the course of a year !!! That's your idea of fulfilling a public service remit. The ladies u-19 squad got to the semi finals of the European Championships during the summer. On the way they beat not one but 3 major soccer nations those being, Sweden, England and Spain. There was very little coverage of that either. A public service remit means you cater for the interests of all sections of society as best you can. Ladies soccer is being ignored whilst ladies rugby in comparison to all other female sports receives colossal coverage. Katy Taylor and Annalise Murphy received coverage because it was The Olympic Games . Neither have had a second of live coverage since. Katy Taylor recently won The European Championships. There was not a second of live coverage of any fight. Katy Taylor herself asked what she had to do to merit live coverage from RTE. Our ladies rugby team finished a distant third in this years Six Nations and every single match was broadcast live and in full on RTE Radio. Where are all those in mainstream media and from the sporting organisation itself calling for more to be shown of one of the largest sports in the country from the point of view of ladies participation?
There was little coverage of the excellent ladies u19 side but where were the FAI in looking and calling for more coverage?
IRFU played major role in getting more coverage of ladies rugby.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/08/2014 12:13:20    1643401

Where are all those in mainstream media and from the sporting organisation itself calling for more to be shown of one of the largest sports in the country from the point of view of ladies participation?
There was little coverage of the excellent ladies u19 side but where were the FAI in looking and calling for more coverage?
IRFU played major role in getting more coverage of ladies rugby.

Finally Ormond we are told it was down to The IRFU lobbying. What exactly did they do ? And what does it say about a national broadcaster with a public service remit being amenable to what I presume was lobbying on the part of one particular group of female players. This disproportionate coverage is at the expense of all other female sports people including one of the top two female sports people ever to have represented the country. When you hear Katy Taylor publicly asking what she has to do to have her fights covered live then you know what you are up against. Given that she has now gone public can we expect more coverage for our greatest female sports person or is it just the pleas of The IRFU which get a response in Montrose ? To say coverage is dictated by representations from organisations is not good enough. RTE ignore ladies soccer and it is shameful. There is a bias in the organisation towards rugby. That is beyond doubt. Given what you assert can you outline for us what The IRFU actually did please.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6185 - 28/08/2014 13:27:04    1643468

'intense social media' campaign greengrass..4-5 tweets probably or something like that...katie taylor only interests rte when the rugby isnt on

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 28/08/2014 14:33:58    1643519

Lol Fabio. Katie Taylor only interests RTE at The Olympics when other broadcasters supply the footage.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6185 - 28/08/2014 16:02:17    1643598

ormond
Not hypocrisy at all. United story was so large, had effects on stock market so very much relevant to news headlines

ah come on ormond stop back pedelling
sport is sport

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/08/2014 16:18:07    1643607