Sat up last night to watch highlights of the National League games but lo & behold what did I get?

No coverage of either Donegal V Tyrone or Kerry V Monaghan.

Instead we got replays of hurling matches which had already been shown live on TG4 as well as "highlights" of the borefest between Dublin & Derry which had already been shown live on Setanta & highlights on TG4.

As if that wasn't bad enough we also got an extended bout of handwringing about aforementioned game which could have been left out to include actual footage of games that had not been shown at all.

Not impressed!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 30/03/2015 09:24:06    1708181

you and me both. RTE has a lot to answer for in the way it covers its games. There must have been cameras in Kerry and Donegal yeserday for what were two great wins for Monaghan and Donegal instead RTE prefers to focus on the negative as per usual.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 30/03/2015 09:43:51    1708193

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Ormond if my local small rural Junior ladies football team were playing a important game in Glasgow, i have no doubt the would have brought a bigger crowd then the irish women s rugby team had. What makes it worst is the amount of Irish living in Scotland, the amount of Irish rugby fans in Scotland last weekend and the fact this game was to decide the 6 nations.

How many people go to your club bring to womens matches- they must be well supported if they would bring big crowds to scotland?
How many people go to ladies football inter county game - when i watch them on Tg4 the crowds aint too spectacular?
What viewing figures does ladies football get on tg4 - is it enough for rte to want to outbid tg4 when contracts are up?
How many travelling fans go to England when their clubs plays an ireland club quarter final or even when they play London in championship?

How many cork fans were are at 2013 hurling final replay - how many were at ladies football the day after - and bear in mind this was in the same stadium not 2 different cities like glasgow/edinburgh? How many dublin fans were at 2013 all ireland final - how many went to 2014 ladies final?

Bit harsh to expect travelling fans to take another day off work to travel to a different city to watch another game

Between rte, setanta, tg4 (and now sky) there is excellent GAA coverage. There was 5 matches on telly plus 2 highlights shows. So i really dont see what all the moaning and whinging is about.

If people dont like rugby being publicised in the media they have the following options
- Dont watch it on Tv - if enough dont watch it RTE wont show it
- dont listen to it on Radio - same principle as above should apply
- dont buy newspapers that cover it or go on websites that cover it
And if enough people do that then maybe it wont be covered.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/03/2015 09:53:19    1708204

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Here's a story you probably should have seen but didn't over the last few days. RTE CHIEFS LEFT RED FACED OVER FALLING RUGBY VIEWING FIGURES. RTE today apologised to the IRFU for a drop in 6N viewing figures.........

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/higher-rte-viewing-figures-for-england-and-france-than-ireland-match-1.2150362" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/higher-rte-viewing-figures-for-england-and-france-than-ireland-match-1.2150362

Interesting according to the article above the England v France got 891,000 (5pm ko akin to france v ireland 2014) so maybe its due to the kick off time.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/higher-rte-viewing-figures-for-england-and-france-than-ireland-match-1.2150362" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/higher-rte-viewing-figures-for-england-and-france-than-ireland-match-1.2150362

Interesting according to this the aforementioned France v Ireland game got more viewers than both the hurling and football finals

It would serve the public right if we decided to shelve plans to show live Leinster Schools senior and junior, live AIL, live Towns Cup and live Tag Rugby in 2016 as a suitable way of commemorating the Easter Rising in which so many rugby players fought (on the British side of course).' The IRFU was as usual anavailable for comment.

Didnt realise rte showed any schools cup,towns cup or tag, - wonder what this chap would thing of your comment re rugby players fighting for the british

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_St_George_McCarthy

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/03/2015 09:54:38    1708206

I see that RTE showed League Sunday at a later time last night due to the soccer. I can only imagine the indignation the moaning & whinging and the sense of moral outrage if they delayed it due to showing an impure, immorral sport played by the heathens like rugby. Imagine if RTE had the Rugby World Cup and delayed the sunday game because of it .... this message board would overload and ireland would be staring into the abyss!!!!!!!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/03/2015 09:57:11    1708208

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Soccer, along with GAA, are the 2 main sports in the country in terms of support and playing numbers.

Makes perfect sense to delay the coverage of League Sunday for a very important soccer match.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13792 - 30/03/2015 10:38:39    1708240

Fermanagh securing promotion to Div 2 after an excellent campaign of good football- not mentioned
Armagh the same- not mentioned
Longford booking their own promotion after a good win against Offaly- didn't register

Monaghan beating Kerry after a real battle in Tralee- not worth a line
Donegal thumping Tyrone in a championship dress rehearsal - not news-worthy at all

Derry scoring 4 points while being relegated- 5-8 minutes. (Why the fuss? Derry lost playing horrible football, are 1 point from 6 and minus 24 in score difference)
The usual generalities from McStay- deleivered on cue
No mention of Mayo's late and off-the ball tacling. Funny that

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1181 - 30/03/2015 10:43:20    1708245

No problem with it being delayed MesAmis.

But when they do put it on, why feature games that had already been broadcast & not show games that hadn't?

Not good.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 30/03/2015 10:46:10    1708251

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No problem with it being delayed MesAmis.

But when they do put it on, why feature games that had already been broadcast & not show games that hadn't?

Not good.

That's defo the main issue with League Sunday. Very poor just showing the games that have already been shown. I never really watch it to be honest.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13792 - 30/03/2015 11:00:33    1708261

Janesboro I shudder to think what would happen if RTE had The Rugby World Cup . Every game would be shown and we would have lengthy analysis of Japan v Georgia . We would have Ryle Nugent coming over all dewy eyed at the "superb progress the guys from the satellite nations are making" . This would be used as a pretext to shelve all programming including God help us The Angelus . Leave The Rugby World Cup to TV3 and ITV.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6177 - 30/03/2015 11:02:39    1708262

League Sunday show games that gave already been broadcast because RTE doesn't send any cameras to National League games . They get all their footage from Setanta and TG4. They don't have any footage of their own . They weren't in a position to discuss any matches other than Dublin v Derry . Hence the hackneyed clichéd drivel about blanket defences . How can they discuss football in general when they only have footage of one game of 16 played this weekend ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6177 - 30/03/2015 11:10:43    1708267

shocking coverage of the hurling as usual. The only showed 3 scores from one of the 1/4 finals.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3512 - 30/03/2015 11:21:15    1708278

So following the Six One sports news on St Patricks Day, when footage was shown from Belfast of the Ulster Schools rugby final between a Belfast and Lisburn school, and the Ulster Schools gaelic football final from Armagh between a Cavan and Tyrone school was ignored despite both being shown live on BBC, I contacted RTE to get an explanation on how such editorial decisions are made. The response received indicated that my email was discussed in RTE and that there was no editorial justification at all for covering the rugby but not the gaelic football. The response also suggested viewers can look forward to a more consistent editorial line in the future. This email exchange suggests to me that while the poor coverage of GAA may not be a conscious approach from RTE, incidences of bias do occur and Mediaman is perfectly correct to continue to highlight them on here.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 30/03/2015 12:36:40    1708334

good man soma...janesboro it was perfectly logical to delay coverage of league sunday as a huge soccer match was on tv..the coverage warranted it..nobody has an issue if the coverage is warranted...a womens rugby match or u20s dont warrant the coverage they get that is the issue people have...ladies football on tg4 gets big viewership....this has been talked about on numerous occasions on this site

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 30/03/2015 20:24:27    1708643

did the six one news even give the dates time and enue for the hurling semi finals?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/03/2015 20:35:37    1708653

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No problem with it being delayed MesAmis.

But when they do put it on, why feature games that had already been broadcast & not show games that hadn't?

Not good.

That's defo the main issue with League Sunday. Very poor just showing the games that have already been shown. I never really watch it to be honest.

Just to note RTE do not have the rights to send cameras to film National League games. They have to use the footage from the channels that the GAA sold the rights to.

And back to RTE bashing...

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 30/03/2015 20:43:17    1708660

The league of 6 Nations may be over but the RTE rugby union blitz continues. Normally Monday is the day media outlets concentrate on the events of the previous 24/48 hours but not in RTE. Today despite the fact that RTE won't even be showing the game our 'national broadcaster' began its build up up to next weekend's Leinster match carrying an interview with one of the team's backroom team. This doesn't even happen in the week before All-Ireland Football or Hurling Finals, games RTE actually do broadcast. Expect the rest of the week to be much the same as RTE pays little or no attention to next weekend's crucial NFL Round 7 matches across the entire country. When it's comes to Sport RTE seems to have no other policy than to look after it's friends in the D4 brigade on whom it appears satire is entirely wasted.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 30/03/2015 21:17:05    1708679

2nd Captains are indepent of RTE so, I can see justified criticism of RTE's covergage weighting towards rugby, they have no choice on 2nd Captains content. Would you blame the Irish Times if they had no Womens GAA in their podcasts? Maybe they don't think Women's GAA is hip enough for them.

Purely my opinion but they seem to have a high hipester count following. Eoin McDevitt is by far the most talented of them. Early is a good writer, even if he wants to over-intellectualise football, not a great presenter. Murphy needs to grow up. Could be a decent GAA analyst if he did. Hick is less annoying.I must be getting old ccos I think most of 2nd Captains TV stuff is cringeworthy.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7910 - 30/03/2015 21:59:00    1708700

The serious side to an earlier post is that the Irish Rugby Football Union did indeed have it's own Volunteer Corps made up of men who were rejected by the British Army, a sort of Home Guard dedicated to maintaining British rule in Ireland. They got caught up in the Rising in 1916 and two were killed including the then President of the Irish Rugby Football Union who had raised and commanded this 'loyal' group. The Irish Rugby Union Volunteer Corps erected a headstone over his grave in memory of 'an honourable comrade'. So yes rugby players did fight to prevent Irish freedom.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 30/03/2015 21:59:43    1708702

Yes unionists play rugby (shock horror!!), it is a sport open to everyone on the island, politics and religion are left at the door. Much like the Irish boxing team, people from every background play. Get over it. Inclusiveness is a good thing , it says more about you that you would this inclusiveness and tales from 100 years ago as a stick to try and criticise a sport. And people wonder why the GAA are called dinosaurs

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 31/03/2015 08:57:35    1708711