In fairness what happened between the Sunday Game and the news on Monday night that you expect them to report on? The games were previewed, shown live, analysed after and then a full highlights show on Sunday. Is there really anything new left to report on Monday night news.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 02/09/2014 13:27:18    1646763

So by that logic will you expect the 6 nations games covered extensively over the weekend not to be mentioned on the Monday evening news or get prominance in the lead up to them? Or for big Ireland world cup qualifiers?

The sports news is watched by a lot of people who wouldn't necessarily be fans and its important to keep the games in the public eye. I can't see why it should be dominated by other sports at this time of year.

A Another (None) - Posts: 194 - 02/09/2014 14:48:02    1646876

There was loads of coverage of the games leading up to the semi finals during the week and bad monkey is right what has happened after sunday to warrant more coverage , the vast majority of people in this country have no interest in GAA so why would they want to wacth more of it on the news.

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 02/09/2014 15:57:07    1646959

Playing numbers, membership, viewing figures and attendance at games would suggest the gaa is at least as popular in the country as soccer and rugby. Why therefore should it not be given the same prominence in the news as the other 2 sports?

If they were going to go down the route of Sexton potentially missing games in November could they not have given an update on Colm Coopers fitness and availability for the final? He togged out on Saturday suggesting some hope for him, an update might have been good. They could have given some updates on injuries picked up on Sunday.

When the six nations is on can we expect no clips from the games shown over the weekend on the Monday news?

A Another (None) - Posts: 194 - 02/09/2014 16:57:44    1647025

"the vast majority of people in this country have no interest in GAA"
Are you for real?

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 02/09/2014 17:09:29    1647040

Did Kerry release an update on the Gooch's injury?? No. So you want them to report on news that doesn't exist ffs. Ireland's best rugby players fracturing his jaw is newsworthy on a Monday with little sport happening that day. The matches got huge coverage all weekend.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 02/09/2014 17:31:00    1647064

Most people have no interest in sport at all, let alone GAA. People seem to forget that when criticising RTE

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 02/09/2014 17:32:28    1647066

bad.monkey
County: USA
Most people have no interest in sport at all, let alone GAA. People seem to forget that when criticising RTE

that might be true (although I'd replace "most people" with "alot of people"), but we're talking about the sports section of the news, right? I'd expect the sports section of the news to cover sports. And at this time of the year, after a weekend of the 2 AI semi-finals, and a few days away from the AI hurling finals, I'd expect GAA to dominate that section of the news, even if the updates are trivial.

But you're right, I think people expect a bit too much coverage of sport from the national broadaster in general, its not a sports channel. Is a dedicated publicly funded Irish sports channel realistic?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 02/09/2014 18:06:09    1647088

Religion is indeed at the core of many of the most conservative elements in Irish sport. The Ulster Branch of the Irish Rugby Football Union to this very day refuses to let clubs in Ulster play competitive rugby on a Sunday due to the influence of its Presbyterian and Church of Ireland ethos. The Ulster team has played on a Sunday but only because it has no choice. Other than that an ultra conservative religious agenda decides the rugby fixture lists in Ulster and that includes Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal. The GAA left all that behind them years ago. Time for rugby to move into the 21st Century?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 02/09/2014 18:29:19    1647099

It a difficult one , Sky Sports treat Ireland as part of the UK market so the channel would have to compete with them which unfortunately is not really possible for an Irish sport station. The GAA should be streaming all matches where there are cameras on their website

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 02/09/2014 18:33:13    1647102

mediaman
County: Dublin
Posts: 9

1647099 Religion is indeed at the core of many of the most conservative elements in Irish sport. The Ulster Branch of the Irish Rugby Football Union to this very day refuses to let clubs in Ulster play competitive rugby on a Sunday due to the influence of its Presbyterian and Church of Ireland ethos. The Ulster team has played on a Sunday but only because it has no choice. Other than that an ultra conservative religious agenda decides the rugby fixture lists in Ulster and that includes Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal. The GAA left all that behind them years ago. Time for rugby to move into the 21st Century?

How many Catholics have played for Ulster ? How many Catholics are currently involved in the Ulster playing panel and management team ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6187 - 02/09/2014 18:46:22    1647109

Does it matter?

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4663 - 02/09/2014 19:09:53    1647123

Given the charge that Ormond made about The GAA not reaching out to a significant portion of the population it is an entirely relevant question . Are you uncomfortable with the question ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6187 - 03/09/2014 16:58:30    1647595

I would surmise that Ulster rugby would love to have more catholics playing ,but I think it is probably the catholic culture in the province to play GAA or soccer ahead of rugby .

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 03/09/2014 17:07:49    1647601

tinrylandman
County: Carlow
Posts: 334

1647601 I would surmise that Ulster rugby would love to have more catholics playing ,but I think it is probably the catholic culture in the province to play GAA or soccer ahead of rugby

Would you now ?? And would surmise that such was the case in years and decades gone by ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6187 - 03/09/2014 17:58:22    1647626

very insightful tinylandman..go wum elsewhere

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 03/09/2014 20:25:19    1647684

02/09/2014 18:29:19 mediaman
Religion is indeed at the core of many of the most conservative elements in Irish sport. The Ulster Branch of the Irish Rugby Football Union to this very day refuses to let clubs in Ulster play competitive rugby on a Sunday due to the influence of its Presbyterian and Church of Ireland ethos. The Ulster team has played on a Sunday but only because it has no choice. Other than that an ultra conservative religious agenda decides the rugby fixture lists in Ulster and that includes Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal. The GAA left all that behind them years ago. Time for rugby to move into the 21st Century? The Clubs in Ulster are the branch and they as a whole decide not to play on Sundays. Rugby is in 21st century and isn't pandering to anyone and the clubs want this

02/09/2014 18:33:13 bad.monkey
It a difficult one , Sky Sports treat Ireland as part of the UK market so the channel would have to compete with them which unfortunately is not really possible for an Irish sport station. The GAA should be streaming all matches where there are cameras on their website But the GAA would need to set up a subscription service for this to be worthwhile as it would be loss making if they didn't..
02/09/2014 18:46:22 Greengrass
How many Catholics have played for Ulster? How many Catholics are currently involved in the Ulster playing panel and management team ?I don't have it to hand and I can only imagine the number would be considerable enough. It doesn't really matter how many are in the squad(no panel...) and a considerable number of management team in Ulster are not irish so not totally relevant to this discussion

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/09/2014 21:50:24    1647743

02/09/2014 18:29:19 mediaman
Religion is indeed at the core of many of the most conservative elements in Irish sport. The Ulster Branch of the Irish Rugby Football Union to this very day refuses to let clubs in Ulster play competitive rugby on a Sunday due to the influence of its Presbyterian and Church of Ireland ethos. The Ulster team has played on a Sunday but only because it has no choice. Other than that an ultra conservative religious agenda decides the rugby fixture lists in Ulster and that includes Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal. The GAA left all that behind them years ago. Time for rugby to move into the 21st Century? The Clubs in Ulster are the branch and they as a whole decide not to play on Sundays. Rugby is in 21st century and isn't pandering to anyone and the clubs want this

02/09/2014 18:33:13 bad.monkey
It a difficult one , Sky Sports treat Ireland as part of the UK market so the channel would have to compete with them which unfortunately is not really possible for an Irish sport station. The GAA should be streaming all matches where there are cameras on their website But the GAA would need to set up a subscription service for this to be worthwhile as it would be loss making if they didn't..
02/09/2014 18:46:22 Greengrass
How many Catholics have played for Ulster? How many Catholics are currently involved in the Ulster playing panel and management team ?I don't have it to hand and I can only imagine the number would be considerable enough. It doesn't really matter how many are in the squad(no panel...) and a considerable number of management team in Ulster are not irish so not totally relevant to this discussion

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/09/2014 21:52:36    1647747

The four o'clock Sports News on RTE Radio provided a classic example of the RTE mindset. The bulletin led with the news that Johnny Sexton was holding a press conference to announce his transfer back to Leinster. As breaking news it deserved to be first item on the sports news. No argument. However what followed was pure pantomime. When the rest of the items were dealt with the Reporter excitedly repeated the Johnny Sexton story in case he said someone had missed it at the start of the bulletin (two minutes earlier). Have you ever heard any other sport being treated in that way? It was the RTE Sports Department's way of telling the nation that a major rugby story (which by the way has been flagged for weeks now) is so important it deserves to be mentioned twice in the same bulletin. Now that is bias.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 04/09/2014 19:05:08    1648103

fabio if I am wrong in my surmation show me as I do know that Ulster rugby have been going province wide to promote the team to both Catholic and Protestant

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 04/09/2014 19:24:24    1648117