The Hermit.....

Like Kerry done in the AI Semi Final.....!? What did Kerry lose by in the end?

SeanFinn......

Don't think either Ulster team will get near Dublin. My Kildare mates were dreading a Dublin Quarter Final. They knew they had a great chance against Monaghan, but also felt they'd be slaughtered by Dublin. Monaghan like most teams will do alright for 25 mins. Will be down by 4 or 5 by 50 mins and PP reckon Dublin will win by 9 plus at the end. Ulster is full of competitive teams. Mayo, Donegal, Kerry, Dublin and Cork are streets ahead of any other teams in the championship. Donegals style is mismatched to Dublin as Dublin do the opposite to all the other average Teams they play. They relentlessly attack.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 07/08/2014 16:46:19    1633086

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Only for a terrible refereeing performance in 2010 against Cork and a great save from the Mayo keeper in 2012 we'd be going for 5 in a row right now.

No time like the present, there are no ifs, woulds or only fors. I like the look of the dublin team at the moment, and think that they have a chance of 3 in a row. 5 would be stretching it but they would be capable of it once they got 3 under their belt

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 07/08/2014 16:53:23    1633092

Cleatus....

Yeah Derry were class too pre Championship! Ranked and thought of way higher than Armagh.

A decent qualifier run and a poor team can make an AI Quarter Final.

Meath got tanked by Dublin. Had been building towards that game and got outclassed. Psychologically damaged!

Kildare had a chance to regroup and get a couple of games under their belt.

Monaghan were Monaghan last weekend. That's their level. They were lucky against Kildare.

If Dublin beat Monaghan this weekend Ulster Football will have at least one Semi Finalist.

Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Ulster

That's they way I'd look at it! All four Provinces represented.

Cork would murder every Ulster team except Donegal!!!!!

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 07/08/2014 16:54:50    1633093

JayP, a couple of close victories and the 35 years of being unable to get within a asses roar of us are all forgotten are they?? Hope you enjoyed the days out against Kerry in 2011 and 2013 because victories over us will become as rare as hen's teeth for the Dubs once Eamon's young charges demonstrate their potential and please God it will be this year!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/08/2014 17:36:41    1633111

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The Hermit.....
Like Kerry done in the AI Semi Final.....!? What did Kerry lose by in the end?

SeanFinn......
Don't think either Ulster team will get near Dublin. My Kildare mates were dreading a Dublin Quarter Final. They knew they had a great chance against Monaghan, but also felt they'd be slaughtered by Dublin. Monaghan like most teams will do alright for 25 mins. Will be down by 4 or 5 by 50 mins and PP reckon Dublin will win by 9 plus at the end. Ulster is full of competitive teams. Mayo, Donegal, Kerry, Dublin and Cork are streets ahead of any other teams in the championship. Donegals style is mismatched to Dublin as Dublin do the opposite to all the other average Teams they play. They relentlessly attack.

Jayp….
Kildare have a reason to fear a QF encounter with Dublin! They haven't enjoyed a lot of success against Dublin in the last few championship games and they were hammered last year. Monaghan will adopt the blanket defence and will be very physical against Dublin. The objective will be to frustrate Dublin. I ask you…When was the last time Dublin beat a well-functioning blanket defence by 9 plus points?
Monaghan have no fear of Dublin. The teams (I stand to be corrected on this) have not met in the championship before, not in the last 20 years anyway.
IF the Dubs beat Monaghan comprehensively and go on to face Donegal then I will concede to your authority on this. I really think there will be very little to separate us in terms of scores and that Armagh are also capable of upsetting the Donegal lads.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 07/08/2014 17:43:18    1633119

The hermit

I definitely enjoyed 2011 and 2013. Two of the best days ever and it is precisely because Kerry expected to beat us that made it all the sweeter. Now no doubt Fitzmaurice has lots of baby boys coming up through the ranks but guess what, so do Dublin!!! I would try to let go of that bitterness that is so evident in your words. It's terribly aging! COYBIB!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 07/08/2014 17:53:49    1633125

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Cleatus....
Yeah Derry were class too pre Championship! Ranked and thought of way higher than Armagh.
A decent qualifier run and a poor team can make an AI Quarter Final.
Meath got tanked by Dublin. Had been building towards that game and got outclassed. Psychologically damaged!
Kildare had a chance to regroup and get a couple of games under their belt.
Monaghan were Monaghan last weekend. That's their level. They were lucky against Kildare.
If Dublin beat Monaghan this weekend Ulster Football will have at least one Semi Finalist.
Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Ulster
That's they way I'd look at it! All four Provinces represented.
Cork would murder every Ulster team except Donegal!!!!!

Jayp….

Another cracker of a post. Monaghan were Monaghan? You have to elaborate that one. What is our level exactly? Beating the opposition in the deluge? There was nothing lucky about it. It shows the resolve of the team we have. True, we got the free to bring it to extra time but we were the better side not the lucky side.
Armagh, again like us, could only beat what was there. Job done.
To say Cork would murder every team in Ulster except Donegal is just daftness. What is the basis? The last team from ulster (and only team) that got a hiding from them in recent times was actually Donegal in 09.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 07/08/2014 17:56:44    1633127

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JayP, a couple of close victories and the 35 years of being unable to get within a asses roar of us are all forgotten are they?? Hope you enjoyed the days out against Kerry in 2011 and 2013 because victories over us will become as rare as hen's teeth for the Dubs once Eamon's young charges demonstrate their potential and please God it will be this year!

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I don't know thehermit you'd be foolish to think that the Jackeens don't have high calibre young fellas coming through. We won the U21 AI again this year and minors are in the semis again. Kerry still have a long way to go, evidenced by the footballing lesson that was dished out to you in Killarney last year followed by defeat to a 14 man Dublin team this year. One thing's for sure though, O'Donoghue is a good player, would not make the Dublin starting forwards but a good player all the same. Get a few more like him and you may even be considered contenders. At the moment you could only be considered pretenders.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 07/08/2014 19:03:49    1633155

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Only for a terrible refereeing performance in 2010 against Cork and a great save from the Mayo keeper in 2012 we'd be going for 5 in a row right now.

Count yourselves damn lucky you didn't make the final in 2012 otherwise it would have been over as a contest in 5 minutes as opposed to the 11 minutes it actually took.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 07/08/2014 19:30:27    1633169

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If Monaghan don't take them Donegal will (although I hope I'm wrong because down here we are looking for vengeance for 2011 and 2013). IMO at this moment in time this Dublin side do not have the hunger to win back to back titles. Sure they look good in Leinster but when have they ever not since 2005?? Nullify Cluxton and run at them and they will struggle big time (a la Semi final last year). They have not been tested since the Kerry game last September; never mind beating the also rans out the gate in their own province, they are now potentially coming up against serious outfits like Donegal. Dubs won't see September, and I have a few bob on that!

Good man hermit, a bit of rare common sense on HS!!

I have put some of Mrs Muckrosshead's dowry on a Donegal Kerry final myself.

What a sight Croke Park will be, a sea of green & gold with nary a blue jersey to be seen. Bliss.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 07/08/2014 19:36:56    1633173

Dublin haven't played against a defensive outfit in league or championship this year. If it was Donegal they were playing on Saturday then I'd expect Donegal to win bit after a scare I think Dublin will beat Monaghan. Johnny Cooper being fit is a boost for Dublin and is the most underrated player on the Dublin team. I'd expect him to man mark Mc Manus andkeep him scoreless from play or at least limit him to a few pints from play. Dublin will learn a lot about the defensive game from this and will be well ready for Armagh or Donegal. It's looking like another Dublin v Mayo final with a similar result as last year.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 07/08/2014 19:58:34    1633186

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I don't know about this 'Dublin haven't played against a defensive outfit this year' and 'Dublin haven't played against a physical team this year' which i've seen written by some. We beat Tyrone and Derry in the league. Are these not defensive and physical sides or are these labels reserved for just Monaghan and Donegal? You have to remember that Monaghan and Donegak will have faced nothing like the pace, movement, athleticism and tough tackling of this Dublin side either. Just ask Tyrone about Omagh where the game was over after 3 mins after a quick 2 goal shock and awe burst from the free flowing Dubs. So will be interesting to see how it pans out with such contrasting styles. I certainly wouldn't be naive enough to think that Dublin will be out muscled or overawed by a three man tackle on every forward. Most of our forwards have faced this before and to an incredible degree in 2011 so the experienced heads are there.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 07/08/2014 20:56:51    1633206

or are these labels reserved for just Monaghan and Donegal? You have to remember that Monaghan and Donegak will have faced nothing like the pace, movement, athleticism and tough tackling of this Dublin side either. Just ask Tyrone about Omagh where the game was over after 3 mins after a quick 2 goal shock and awe burst from the free flowing Dubs.

Tyrone's defence wasn't exactly up to much this year. The team's strength and conditioning is relatively poor as well. Wouldn't say the game was over after 3 mins, Dublin won by a point.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 07/08/2014 21:16:31    1633216

Joker and JayP, a couple of All Ireland once every twenty odd years does not make a Dublin side the greatest team to ever grace a GAA pitch despite what the media and the Hill 16 brigade would like everyone to think! We had our foot on your throat for 35 years and will have so again before too long. If your latching on to League matches in the muck of February to dispute that then its already a losing argument.

I hope your still standing in September so that JOD a co can show you what a real forward line can do, but as I said, I think if we reach a final we will be facing Jimmy's crowd. Enjoy Saturday's match ;)

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/08/2014 21:21:37    1633219

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or are these labels reserved for just Monaghan and Donegal? You have to remember that Monaghan and Donegak will have faced nothing like the pace, movement, athleticism and tough tackling of this Dublin side either. Just ask Tyrone about Omagh where the game was over after 3 mins after a quick 2 goal shock and awe burst from the free flowing Dubs.

Tyrone's defence wasn't exactly up to much this year. The team's strength and conditioning is relatively poor as well. Wouldn't say the game was over after 3 mins, Dublin won by a point.
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Agree Mchael O but that was a Dublin B team and we went back into our shell after the initial burst with DC stepping up for that wonder point to win the game. Tyrone are always physical and are always in decent physical condition. They also lined up defensively, granted with a few younger fellas but would not take anything aay from a hard earned victory by a very experimental Dublin team.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 07/08/2014 21:39:50    1633230

Joxer.....take comfort in league results if you want. Monaghan totally outclassed Donegal in the division 2 final, Derry beat Dublin in the regular fixture and you only beat Tyrone by a point. League games while not insignificant, don't really tell the tale of the championship.

The physical and defensive teams in Ulsterfor me are Donegal, Monaghan, Armagh, Tyrone and Cavan for the most part.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 07/08/2014 21:43:52    1633234

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Joker and JayP, a couple of All Ireland once every twenty odd years does not make a Dublin side the greatest team to ever grace a GAA pitch despite what the media and the Hill 16 brigade would like everyone to think! We had our foot on your throat for 35 years and will have so again before too long. If your latching on to League matches in the muck of February to dispute that then its already a losing argument.

I hope your still standing in September so that JOD a co can show you what a real forward line can do, but as I said, I think if we reach a final we will be facing Jimmy's crowd. Enjoy Saturday's match ;)

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Don't remember anyone claiming that this Dublin team are the best to grace a football pitch. Sounds like you're reading too much of Spillane in the Star. As for Kerry having their foot on Dublin's throat for 35 years, that's a laugh. Dublin will always be at the business end of the championship while good Kerry teams will come and go. While we look forward to the future you hark back to the past. Sure sign of a county in decline!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 07/08/2014 21:54:08    1633243

"O'Donoghue is a good player, would not make the Dublin starting forwards but a good player all the same."

I take it that this was meant to bait the Kerry posters was it?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9774 - 08/08/2014 10:40:27    1633302

OK the shadow boxing is over for Dublin now....their first serious test since last years All ireland.
Dublin should win by 3/4 points but this game will be a good pointer to where they are actually at and will be tested physically but should overall have too much class for Patrick Kavanagh's men

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 08/08/2014 11:08:49    1633318

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"O'Donoghue is a good player, would not make the Dublin starting forwards but a good player all the same."

I take it that this was meant to bait the Kerry posters was it?

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Damn, foiled again!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4745 - 08/08/2014 13:51:09    1633411