At least when RTE show a match everyone in this country will be able to comment on it. ______________________ And the thousands of us who done live "in this country", don't we count?
brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 06/06/2014 14:42:26
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What's the saying? There's two kinds of people...glass half full people & glass half empty people. Optimists & pessimists! Most of the negative comments I make here about RTE are to give some balance to the negatives about Sky (who haven't done a single broadcast yet!). I am not particularly happy the way our national broadcaster gives precedence to soccer & rugby over GAA in terms of news & coverage so I welcome the competition Sky will bring to the table.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 06/06/2014 14:52:48
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Cork v waterford replay not on telly this weekend, hardly anyone giving out, I guarantee if sky had the replay there would be countless people on here going mad because the odd 90 living out in the country wouldn't be able see it
tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 06/06/2014 15:14:14
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tipp11 County: Tipperary Posts: 32
1599108 Cork v waterford replay not on telly this weekend, hardly anyone giving out, I guarantee if sky had the replay there would be countless people on here going mad because the odd 90 living out in the country wouldn't be able see it
Very good point. Tyrone replay the same.
AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 06/06/2014 16:31:18
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No harm in giving Sky a chance, just to see what they bring to the table. In saying that, I don't think I will be subscribing to it.
If in time we see it really isn't working for the GAA, we can vote to revert to traditional broadcasting methods.
GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 06/06/2014 16:43:50
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Certainly will never fork out for SKY, but I will go and cast a curious eye on proceedings via a sucker, sorry, a helpful neighbour :D I shall reserve judgement until then.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8667 - 06/06/2014 17:19:52
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Gary,
It'll be too late by then....we'll already be contaminated! ;)
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 06/06/2014 17:22:51
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hill16no1man County: Dublin Posts: 7779
1599043 James 2011 The Ulster championship is not part of the all Ireland competition so don't be smart
God I haven't seen that phrase "so don't be smart" since my sainted mother used it years ago. Usually preceded a clip on the ear!!
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 06/06/2014 18:50:07
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keeper7 County: Longford Posts: 2047
1599195 Gary,
It'll be too late by then....we'll already be contaminated! ;)
I know RTE cater for all people of Ireland, and that many matches will simply not produce enough ratings to knock "Sponge Bob square pant's" off his 6.30pm TG4 slot on Friday evening's or Fraggle Rock of its 4pm Sunday afternoon showing ( I just checked the tv guide, as I honestly don't know TG4's schedule of the top of my head ).
I yearn for a Friday night English language GAA programme, Where team annoucements for the weekend ahead are already announced and can be discussed. I would also like The Sunday Game to be exclusively Football or Hurling, rather than both.
I like Championship matters on thursdays, but kinda feel like its too early for the weekend and too late for the week before. Also feel its too short, but maybe im being a bit picky here.
GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 06/06/2014 19:01:57
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Cork v waterford replay not on telly this weekend, hardly anyone giving out, I guarantee if sky had the replay there would be countless people on here going mad because the odd 90 living out in the country wouldn't be able see it
Given the low attendance at the first match I don't think many from Cork or Waterford has the right to expect the replay to be televised. Any way Ill be watching it online.
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 06/06/2014 19:02:47
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There weekly highlights show will be on Wensdays at 11pm. They seem to be broadcasting all GAA stuff on sky sports 3(significantly less people have access to this channel than sky sports 1 etc.).
RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 06/06/2014 19:05:09
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RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 06/06/2014 19:07:37
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Treaty_Exile County: Limerick Posts: 240
1598805 Are they though? Yes, the error yesterday evening was embarrassing, probably compounded by the fact that Kilkenny couldn't have less to do with football, as well as getting the province wrong. That was a worse error than Jim Whyte struggling with names, I'd certainly forgive him that. Other than that? Errors all over the shop? No.
I've always been a fan of RTE's hurling coverage, because its panellists seem to enjoy a game between middle ranking teams, something the football panellists can't seem to do, and have no problem promoting their sport. The football panellists are witheringly negative. I think the days of Spillane and Brolly are numbered. Either that, or they actually have to say something positive about football, which is a bloody good game, lest we forget! Even with the black card, it's constant focus on questionable refereeing as opposed to what the card is doing right (and it's doing a lot right). There's a lot to like about RTE's coverage, and it would be a sad day that they don't have coverage to our games, but the football panellists have to buck up.
While they have made errors, Sky have actually shown enthusiasm. Brian Carney deserves a massive pat on the back for what was a very articulate and feel-good endorsement of hurling, and a very adept run-through on the black card. Let the naysayers get the knives out, but Sky are brilliant sports broadcasters. They'd promote tiddlywinks with vigour if they were broadcasting it!
I'd forgive Jim White mispronouncing a few of the names, especially if the players concerned were Gaeilgeoirí ! The cardinal error for me was the Mayo, All-Ireland champions gaffe. Anyone with even a passing interest in gaelic games knows that Mayo are the great nearly-men of the game, and it's something that takes 30 seconds to check on the web.
As for enthusiasm, I'd suggest that there's a balance to be struck. While RTÉ have definitely given us some lazy and negative coverage over the past few years, watching Sky's coverage of Premier League soccer makes me a bit apprehensive, they'd hype up a game of tiddywinks and you'd get a critical mass of fellas heading down the pub as an excuse to watch it.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 06/06/2014 19:14:06
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You Do all know that on rte news on Wednesday mayo were described as all ire champs? Yep our great national broadcaster got that wrong too. Glass houses stones come to mind. Radio BTW
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/06/2014 20:31:56
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This air of unreality is akin to North Korea.
Bloody hell arock, I know Sky are not everyone's cup of tea but North Korea???
A little over the top maybe???
OK, I agree a bit OTT! But the only issue for me is exclusivity, this forum is open, free, where you can express an opinion. Take Monday mornings and the debates, controversies, about games most who want to see generally get to see. That is not going to happen. There will of course be a small pool of people telling us mostly what great drama and TV we are all missing. There will be no debate, no discussion except about the games most people get to see!
I mean I wouldn't watch say Kilkenny v Offaly not if my own county were playing U13 camogie/hurling/football I would go to that instead. But generally I see highlights, I know my club probably the biggest in the country with 2,700+ members will not be investing in the Sky package - they can't afford it!!
So what we will have on this forum is less meaningful debate not more, I find that rather sad, the plus is I will get to see a lot more games live in a GAA ground.
North Korea is strong, but Sky do have favoured status in China!! enough said.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4937 - 06/06/2014 21:15:16
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hill - The Ulster championship is not part of the all Ireland competition so don't be smart
but thats not what you said. You said there are 2 hurling competitions and 4 football ones when it comes to provincial championships. So you made a mistake and are trying to weasel out of it by trying to be smart yourself. The Ulster hurling has a provincial championship. That makes it 3 hurling and 4 football when it comes to provincial championships. You made no mention of being part of an All Ireland series.
all very easy to try slate sky when it suits and make out they made a mistake, and then you make your own! Irony at its best.
james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 606 - 06/06/2014 21:27:47
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06/06/2014 19:01:57 GaryMc82 County: Derry Posts: 1107
I honestly don't know TG4's schedule of the top of my head )...
Cripes I thought it was mandatory for posting? An hour every night for the last 5 years wasted in memorizing it! ;)
an tseabhac (Kerry) - Posts: 441 - 06/06/2014 21:32:15
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Arock. Really how many people don't have either UPC or a sky box? Honestly man I could count the amount of people around athlone without a sky dish same would apply to Mullingar navan etc. You dubs are always telling us how advanced Dublin is to the country. Is Dublin that backwards?
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/06/2014 21:35:39
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royaldunne County: Meath Posts: 5767
1599273 You Do all know that on rte news on Wednesday mayo were described as all ire champs? Yep our great national broadcaster got that wrong too. Glass houses stones come to mind. Radio BTW
I'm based outside of Ireland, so I didn't know that. I presume that they weren't referring to the minors? It's fairly shocking if not.
Look, few people will say that RTÉ's standard of coverage is something to aspire to. I personally find their level of coverage of anything outside the All-Ireland senior championships to be abysmal. You'd struggle to find reports of county finals, U-21 championships, the provincial club series etc. on the RTÉ Sport site, for example.
I was actually in favour of the Sky deal when it was announced. I just think that there have been several basic errors made already, before a puck of a ball has even been broadcast. Doesn't bode well, IMO.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 07/06/2014 12:52:20
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I don't think anybody has a problem with people pulling Sky up on mistakes they make.
I just find it funny how people are so vocal about it, almost to the point of seemingly wanting the Sky venture to fail on the basis of a few mispronunciations and dodgey graphics, that they won't even be giving the analysis and coverage a chance.
Nobody ever seems to have a problem when an Irish media outlet makes a balls of things so why the issue with Sky when they do what RTE and TV3 have been doing for years?
I've seen the Sky ad for the GAA more times over the last two weeks than I've seen any other ad for the GAA all year, fair play to them for at least trying to promote the sports.
HandballRef County: Donegal Posts: 31
Although most people think it was a wind up, Brian Moore was actually 100% correct in what he said! The Bonner surname is one of the most common in Donegal and we pronounce it Bone-er, not Bon-ar... Even if it's spelt Bonar, we pronounce it Bone-er. I genuinely don't think that it was intended as a wind up!!
Hence my point about Sky doing likewise.
You'd imagine when running a bit of coverage on the GAA they would have at least got Wyse or Carney to have a quick look at it first. Although when we played Cavan in the qualifiers two years ago the Sunday Game showed the Offaly crest instead of the Kildare one, maybe RTE should have ran that past an Irish person too...
Like I said, I just find it funny and to be honest a bit sad, that people are so anti Sky yet apparently have no problem with the awful coverage other networks give the games.
if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 07/06/2014 13:11:52
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