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shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 01/05/2014 16:40:12    1583071

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SamOnErrigal, nobody is doubting M murphy as a full forward though. It is the McGee lads as orthodox defenders. For instance, would either mcgee have marked murphy out of it for the rest of that game in an orthodox defence like cafferkey did? I dont believe so.

I think Neil McGee is as good a man marker as you will find, physically he can match even the most powerful forward in the country. His short bursts of pace make him an ideal defenser.

Had he played for Kerry or somebody else his Individual talent would be recognised a little more. I say this as Donegal's "System" suceeded in putting more emphasis on the team effort rather than the Individual's abilities. Which is the way it should be i suppose.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 01/05/2014 16:42:02    1583072

I dont.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 01/05/2014 16:44:10    1583074

Derryman

Don't hold your breath waiting on a statement, this won't happen, this is the scenario that suits all parties, Mark Mc Hugh being mark Mc Hugh would not want it out there that he was thrown of the panel, Jim Mc Guinness respects what he and his family have done for Donegal football and wouldn't want to tarnish his name further as he is a young man who still as a future as an inter county player,(if he gets his head right that is) so the way this has been communicated to media suits all parties......... It will come out eventually but not in immediate future

I'm confident this event will bond the team together and have a positive effect on the pitch, ,If we can get out of Celtic park, you will see this and I'm confident we can win on the 25th

ben1977 (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 01/05/2014 17:07:52    1583088

So much spin coming out of Donegal you could be forgiven for having a migraine , seems the posters here are completely in the know and we will have to take their words for it as the silence from relevant parties deafening

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 01/05/2014 17:13:28    1583089

We'll it wouldn't be Donegal if there wasn't a discipline issue of some kind. Thought this Donegal team were on way out after last year and this won't help. A lot of miles on the clock for a few men also!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 01/05/2014 17:24:00    1583095

I'd take Neil McGee over Cafferkey every day of the week.

HEREBENJI (Donegal) - Posts: 431 - 01/05/2014 19:34:32    1583141

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1583089 So much spin coming out of Donegal you could be forgiven for having a migraine , seems the posters here are completely in the know and we will have to take their words for it as the silence from relevant parties deafening

Just out of interest, who should the relevant parties be talking to? Is there some sort of agreement that I'm not aware of whereby GAA players and managers should inform the general public of their every move and thought?

Jim has a first round to prepare his team for, and Mark McHugh does not have to explain himself to anyone. I think most Donegal people can take an educated guess as to what is going on, but very few really know the whole truth. Either way, I'm sorry to see Mark go, and the panel will be poorer for it. Hopefully Jim can keep the rest of the lads focussed and we can give Ulster a proper crack again this year

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 01/05/2014 20:11:39    1583153

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1583089 So much spin coming out of Donegal you could be forgiven for having a migraine , seems the posters here are completely in the know and we will have to take their words for it as the silence from relevant parties deafening

Just out of interest, who should the relevant parties be talking to? Is there some sort of agreement that I'm not aware of whereby GAA players and managers should inform the general public of their every move and thought?

Jim has a first round to prepare his team for, and Mark McHugh does not have to explain himself to anyone. I think most Donegal people can take an educated guess as to what is going on, but very few really know the whole truth. Either way, I'm sorry to see Mark go, and the panel will be poorer for it. Hopefully Jim can keep the rest of the lads focussed and we can give Ulster a proper crack again this year

Who should they talk to ? well as you and I are discussing it and Im sure its a topic of conversation up in Donegal , as there is three different opinions on here from Donegal posters ? Maybe clear up if its a club thing , is it a discipline thing , a form or injuries thing , Jim is not required to talk to anyone on this however I dont think its helpfull to your squad unless topic has some closure but hey as said its going to make you stronger and we should all live in fear .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 01/05/2014 20:37:28    1583164

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Who should they talk to ? well as you and I are discussing it and Im sure its a topic of conversation up in Donegal , as there is three different opinions on here from Donegal posters ? Maybe clear up if its a club thing , is it a discipline thing , a form or injuries thing , Jim is not required to talk to anyone on this however I dont think its helpfull to your squad unless topic has some closure but hey as said its going to make you stronger and we should all live in fear .

Fair enough Damo, but I'd be amazed if the squad themselves didn't know exactly what was going on. It may be an unnecessary distraction since its all over the news, but I don't see how holding a press conference to clear things up could help either

it remains to be seen whether this will have a galvanising effect on the squad, but its certainly made an already intersting first round clash all the more fascinating

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 01/05/2014 20:59:06    1583181

Damp the dub.
Let's get this clear, on all known form , JMcG would not drop a player of the panel due to an injury( Kevin Rafferty injured his figure in 2012 and could not do any ball work He stayed in the panel ,done his training and got his medal). It's has nothing todo with the club situation so that leaves the OLD CHESTNUT::::: DISCIPLINE. We, DONEGAL GAA supporters know JMcG stance on DISCIPLINE. As he said HIMSELF about P Spillane and his (PS)view of Donegals style if footbal :::: when we go training in Castlefin or Ballybofey we won't be worried what Spillane thinks about Donegal football. That's for the County team, management and Donegal supporters
Same applies today:::it's nobody's business only our own and nobody has to explain anything to anybody outside the County. Derryman is a bit late about his statements. Derry never released one when the Bradley's pulled out of the squad. We will take this in our stride and the genuine DONEGAL supporter will follow this team and manager until the bitter end

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 01/05/2014 21:10:04    1583183

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1583183 Damp the dub.
Let's get this clear, on all known form , JMcG would not drop a player of the panel due to an injury( Kevin Rafferty injured his figure in 2012 and could not do any ball work He stayed in the panel ,done his training and got his medal). It's has nothing todo with the club situation so that leaves the OLD CHESTNUT::::: DISCIPLINE. We, DONEGAL GAA supporters know JMcG stance on DISCIPLINE. As he said HIMSELF about P Spillane and his (PS)view of Donegals style if footbal :::: when we go training in Castlefin or Ballybofey we won't be worried what Spillane thinks about Donegal football. That's for the County team, management and Donegal supporters
Same applies today:::it's nobody's business only our own and nobody has to explain anything to anybody outside the County. Derryman is a bit late about his statements. Derry never released one when the Bradley's pulled out of the squad. We will take this in our stride and the genuine DONEGAL supporter will follow this team and manager until the bitter end

Give it a rest with the moral high ground .

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 01/05/2014 21:27:08    1583188

Well now I am only suggesting that the young man should not be vilified.
He gave a great deal for Donegal and it would be less tban couteous to respect him for it. but you do your own thing.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/05/2014 21:38:36    1583194

I think that we need a bit of perspective here. Donegal (we), are not in particularly good shape. I dont think it makes much difference if Mchugh stays or goes. It just isnt going to make that much difference imo. I think we should be very grateful to the lads for delivering the goods in 2012. We might even get a run going this year ang compete in an ulster final again, which would be a great achievement. But anyone who thinks that donegal can compete for sam this year is stretching things.

I have got to say I am amused at posters from counties like mayo who have big opinions on the health and state of donegal football. At least we will be able to look back over the next few years and look at an all ireland success.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 01/05/2014 21:59:24    1583205

I follow Dublin not Jim Galvin, I couldn't care less if he stays or goes, as long as he does his job fine, if he goes, thanks and good luck. I suggest maybe some (SOME) Donegal posters have real difficulty separating the man from the county.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 02/05/2014 09:02:57    1583223

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I've followed Donegal all my life, Mc Guinness has only been in charge for a few years of that, I will be following Donegal for the rest of my life after Jim moves on.
The reason that some Donegal people are a bit protective of Jim is that he gets serious abuse from the media, other county supporters and pundits for daring to be different. I don't always agree with some of his decisions but he gets it right more times than wrong and for that I'm happy enough.

Says it all really that there was uproar on these boards when The Donegal County Board approved Jims proposal for cancellation of one round of county league matches a few weeks back yet not even a wimper on these boards when the Armagh management do the same this weekend!! The anti-Donegal feeling in the rest of the country is alive and well.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 02/05/2014 09:30:51    1583235

Tir Chonaill Abu this is likely to do that the Armagh County Board know this was a once off and their whole club football calendar has not been thrown into disarray like Jim Mc has done (with the consensus of the Co Board) with Donegal

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 02/05/2014 09:47:23    1583242

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Donegal have put the club championship on hold in an official way. It was proposed, voted on and passed. This is better than the situation we found ourselves in before when the championship was delayed every time we got to the next round of the championship. This happens in other counties too but because it was an official decision this year then it hits the headlines. If a poll was done of the counties who have reached the quarters finals over the past 10 years I'd harbour a guess that the majority of counties have delayed their club championships. Personally I don't like the postponement of the championship but I also want to see our county progress as far as possible and have all the players fully fit so its a difficult situation to solve and I certainly don't see an easy solution.Maybe counties with continued success and dealing with this situation annually like Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Cork etc, could explain how they deal with this.

As I've said previously it's the constant bashing of any decision that Donegal and Jim Mc Guinness makes that annoys me and other people from Donegal most.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1677 - 02/05/2014 10:08:06    1583252

I am neutral as far as Donegal is concerned unless they are representing Ulster but I clearly see that there is a lot of anti JMG sentiment out there that I simply cannot understand the logic of. My personal feeling is that it is because he has the audacity to make Donegal a force and actually win an All Ireland with them rather than knowing his place.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 02/05/2014 10:25:25    1583260

Players and supporters alike don't really care what a manager does if it guarantees success (an all Ireland title), especially if both are starved of success.
I wouldn't care if Malachy had the Monaghan players prancing around in leotards howling at the moon if it guaranteed SAM, and I don't think the players would either,
But would they put up with it a second year?

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1067 - 02/05/2014 10:48:25    1583272