As a Dublin fan I was very disappointed with our support for the U21's last weekend.
It was an All Ireland Final after all.

Clever move Roscommon getting a Ladies League Football Final v Antrim played before the main event.
The Stand was nearly full 1.5 hours before throw in with 99% Rossie fans.....
I am pretty sure the Rossie ladies will never play to such a big following ever again.... :o)

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4702 - 07/05/2014 10:22:54    1584908

Knowtherules, Supporters of strong senior counties like Dublin and Kerry tend not to travel in big numbers to watch underage matches. Unfortunately as they miss some good games.

Feile did involve a huge number of club people and definitely did take away hundreds who might have gone to Tuallamore.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 07/05/2014 10:33:59    1584915

why was the kilk v tipp crowd so poor and so handy for both sets of fans, expected 30000 plus

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3018 - 07/05/2014 12:00:49    1584948

Feile must have be on for the semi final also as Dublin had few supporters at that game. Enough of the excuses lads Dublin have very poor support for their underage teams.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3770 - 07/05/2014 17:02:46    1585119

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there was hardly monstrous support from anybody at the semi finals or final of under 21
think there was under 10 thousand in portlaoise
and 9 thousand in tullamore
its the same every year though so dont see why people expect an underage competition to garner massive crowds

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 09/05/2014 11:13:10    1585697

Was more than 9,000 at the U-21 final the stand looked full and the far side had a good crowd also. U-16s get in for free and maybe they weren't included in the attendance figure?

Mr_Pundit (UK) - Posts: 677 - 09/05/2014 20:18:00    1585975

There was a massive Roscommon crowd at the under 21 final, there was a similar poor Dublin crowd at the under 21 final 2 years ago

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 09/05/2014 21:59:20    1586002

it just looks big in small grounds
I was in portlaoise last year for the hurling and was 10 and 11 thousand for dublin v kilkenny them days
same as dublin v galway in tullamore two years previous and was 1o thousand and stand was full that day too

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/05/2014 15:44:49    1586115

The do not count the under 16's which makes a big difference to the figures, it is funny hill you defending the poor dubs crowd yet you have been constantly complaining about the cheek of Mayo supporters been on the hill for the all Ireland final, talking about all the true blues who could not get a ticket yet a lot of these were not in Tullamore last week or 2 years ago either.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/05/2014 16:20:40    1586128

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The do not count the under 16's which makes a big difference to the figures, it is funny hill you defending the poor dubs crowd yet you have been constantly complaining about the cheek of Mayo supporters been on the hill for the all Ireland final, talking about all the true blues who could not get a ticket yet a lot of these were not in Tullamore last week or 2 years ago either.

do you know this for a fact as at the moment it seems to be a myth that they dont count everybody in the ground?
what poor dubs crowds? your talking about two differant teams
nobody has ever suggested we have big underage crowds but I dont see your comparison to the senior team as they are differant teams
there was big crowds at all league games dublin had at senior level this year
yes I did say it was wrong that mayo got that large an allocation as they didnt look for hill tickets for either the quarter final
or semi final where as dublin did an used them.
there was no mayo supporters on the hill for either the league match or league semi final match in croker this year either

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/05/2014 17:59:35    1586162

Hill how can the count under 16's when the are not charged and do not need a ticket, the may be able to do it in croker but not in grounds around the country. You will hear lots of moaning from Dublin come the all ireland final about how true blues can not get tickets for the final yet the could not be a***ed going to watch there under 21 team in an All Ireland final. Why should Mayo or any county have to pay 35 euro more for a ticket then a dubs fan, i do not see how some dubs fans such as your self think yee have a god given right to have the hill to yourselves. One of the great things about the gaa is the way the crowd can mix. Really any dub fan who was too stupid to buy themselves a parnell pass have only themselves to blame.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/05/2014 18:41:34    1586175

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Hill how can the count under 16's when the are not charged and do not need a ticket, the may be able to do it in croker but not in grounds around the country. You will hear lots of moaning from Dublin come the all ireland final about how true blues can not get tickets for the final yet the could not be a***ed going to watch there under 21 team in an All Ireland final. Why should Mayo or any county have to pay 35 euro more for a ticket then a dubs fan, i do not see how some dubs fans such as your self think yee have a god given right to have the hill to yourselves. One of the great things about the gaa is the way the crowd can mix. Really any dub fan who was too stupid to buy themselves a parnell pass have only themselves to blame.

easily as the attendance at an event id not the amount of tickets sold its the amount of people in a venue
that is measured by turnstiles and there is a counter on every turnstile that clicks and adds them up.
first of all we have to make the all ireland final at senior level
and secondly if they have gone to watch the dublin senior team all year then they are quite entitled to be unhappy if they
do get tickets for the final.
the under 21s are a differant team how can you not see this?
thats like saying roscommon shouldnt get tickets to a connaught final because they wouldnt go and watch their hurlers playing!
they didnt seem to mind paying the extra money for the all ireland quarter finals and semi finals did they?
they didnt look for the cheaper option on them days did they?
nobody thinks its a god given right but is it not unfair to suggest we get the larger allocation seen as we are the only county who consistently uses it?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/05/2014 14:28:44    1586629

ROS, you are correct about supporters not availing of Parnell pass, or Season ticket and then whinging about not getting a ticket for the final.

As for the 21s, I' afraid underage finals are no longer a novelty for Dublin supporters. Shame perhaps, but there you are.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 12/05/2014 14:44:30    1586636

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ROS, you are correct about supporters not availing of Parnell pass, or Season ticket and then whinging about not getting a ticket for the final.

As for the 21s, I' afraid underage finals are no longer a novelty for Dublin supporters. Shame perhaps, but there you are.


dont agree that any supporter of a county must be tied into a season ticket scheme to be called a real supporter
there are other outlets the gaa advertise all year to sell tickets from and if a breakdown was done id be confident
a large majority of tickets throughout the gaa year would be sold through outlets such as
gaa.ie , tickets.ie, centra, supervalu, ticketmaster and gaa clubs themselves
if you have been availaing of these ticket outlets all year the gaa should have a certain amount of tickets available
through these outlets come the finals too.
as they do it now its basically like slapping somebody in the face and saying we needed you all year to keep the turnstiles
clicking but now that we know we can get the crowd we wont offer you the chance to go.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/05/2014 15:11:54    1586647

I think the Gaa needs to look at perhaps what English club rugby have done particulary Saracens in getting crowds to games. Saracens previously had no support and now fill out Wembley once a year. Music at half time and after tries have added an atmosphere that was previously lacking.

glantine.guard (Limerick) - Posts: 33 - 13/05/2014 12:07:51    1586938

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I think the Gaa needs to look at perhaps what English club rugby have done particulary Saracens in getting crowds to games. Saracens previously had no support and now fill out Wembley once a year. Music at half time and after tries have added an atmosphere that was previously lacking.

we never needed glitz and glam in the gaa and I still dont think the time has come that we need that sort of stuff yet at least
but what we do need as actual advertising and marketing of the games
in this day and age every other sport or buisness markets themselves
the gaa still are happy to get what they have and use the approach of just put the games on and the people will go
but with so much media dictating the hearts and minds of every day people
the GAA need to make it well known what games are on and where and the special deals they do for games

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/05/2014 14:20:59    1587023

I wasn't making a moral point hillman. Just pointing to the fact that if you want to guarantee a ticket then Parnell Pass, or Cairde Maigh Eó or other county equivlanets, or season ticket is best option. I have seen loyal club members and supporters who got tickets all year through club lose out for big games. It is not fair but thats the way it happens unforunately.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 13/05/2014 15:01:27    1587057

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but there is nly a certain amolunt of parnell pass tickets and season tickets allowed and they geneally sell out
the season ticket didnt even go on sale in dublin this year as the renewals from last year were all done

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/05/2014 17:43:08    1587166

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easily as the attendance at an event id not the amount of tickets sold its the amount of people in a venue
that is measured by turnstiles and there is a counter on every turnstile that clicks and adds them up.

Have seen this done at senior games however having been to both U-21 Semi final and final i didn't see/witness anyone adding up the attendance. Has been claimed that a little over 9,000 was at this years U-21 final i would say closer to 12,000 because there was more at it than the 2012 final and that was apparently 10,000.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4192 - 13/05/2014 18:21:27    1587188

Anyone know the attendance for Westmeath game last night?
What do we expect attendance wise today?

lukewalsh96 (Cork) - Posts: 252 - 18/05/2014 12:58:35    1589211