if_in_doubt
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You have it just about spot on IMO

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 16/12/2013 13:46:30    1524194

Skerries, Balbriggan, Suttonians, Swords all have rugby clubs in north dublin.

bubba83 (Dublin) - Posts: 333 - 16/12/2013 13:56:38    1524197

Rosineri1
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most people are referring to Gaelic Football, how does hurling compare to rugby in the capital nowadays?

I'd say in terms of support Leinster would defo have more overall and in Dublin too, although hurling support is growing.

Players numbers would swing towards hurling though.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 16/12/2013 13:58:17    1524199

Even on the southside, it's a lot more southeast, very little rugby west of gonzaga yuppy school. A notable exception is terenure, but little or none in tallaght, clondalkin, crumlin, ballyfermot, cherry orchard, etc. That said, there's obviously more support, probably more players than before, that's what comes with a successful team, but personally, I don't know a single person who plays rugby, though I do know a few twats who sent their kids to rugby schools during the boom, to give them a few nice airs ;-)

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1055 - 16/12/2013 15:05:46    1524233

With herself been from their (unfortunately) I have a fair idea what it would be, I'd say easily premiership soccer is the biggest then dubs football then rugby then hurling but as individual it would have to be dubs then rugby , also what the hell is this working class middle class crap? I am in management position but I work, so am I middle or working class? Wife runs her own business but would come from a perceived working class area of Dublin. She drives a merc , so is she working class or middle class?
I get tired of hearing this bull. Tbh its mostly those that have a chip on their shoulder that either envy their neighbour or something that it comes from. Utter nonsense. Strive to achieve the best you can be and stop whining about middle or working class.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/12/2013 15:20:37    1524240

royaldunne
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I am in management position but I work, so am I middle or working class?

Depends whether or not you're in middle management I suppose...

She drives a merc , so is she working class or middle class?

What does a car have to do with anything? Maybe deep down she's German?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 16/12/2013 15:44:14    1524262

A few posters have stated that Leinster is the no. 1 in the rest of the province. It's obviously way smaller than hurling in Kilkenny or wexford, gaa in offaly, soccer in Louth, the rest I don't know, is Leinster rugby really more popular than the county teams in Meath, kildare, Laois, etc?

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1055 - 16/12/2013 15:52:39    1524269

flack
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A few posters have stated that Leinster is the no. 1 in the rest of the province. It's obviously way smaller than hurling in Kilkenny or wexford, gaa in offaly, soccer in Louth, the rest I don't know, is Leinster rugby really more popular than the county teams in Meath, kildare, Laois, etc?

Individually rugby wouldn't be bigger than the GAA in any county.

On the whole though Leinster would be a bigger brand or franchise throughout the province than any one single county would be bar Dublin.

The Premiership would also be more popular than Leinster but break it down to individual clubs and it would become a close run thing.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 16/12/2013 16:02:36    1524275

There is a big difference between Leinster supporters who actually go to see them play, and people sitting in front of a TV watching teams from places they will mostl likely never even visit. Premiership via SKy bears same relationship to real sport as soap opera to real life.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 16/12/2013 16:07:57    1524278

Must be the season that's in it. I'm agreeing with a Kildare poster? Miracles do happen at this time of year :)
If in doubt is correct. On a county by county basis rugby would not be the largest but as a whole it probably is. Take Louth soccer is the main one, Meath its football but a fair amount is also rugby and soccer Westmeath where I now live is predominantly premiership with rugby vying for second with gaa

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/12/2013 16:16:10    1524283

Rugby is easily the dominant sport in County Limerick
Half of county Limerick plays football, half play hurling, they rarely co-exist, but the whole county plays soccer and Rugby and the city rugby dominance swings the county as an average towards Rugby and if we are honest, soccer would also be ahead of GAA in Limerick
If you take GAA as a whole and dont break it into Football or Hurling, then you have a closer call, but there is no chance that hurling is individually even close to soccer or rugby in Limerick, neither is football

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 16/12/2013 16:16:34    1524285

Then its silly comparing a whole province to individual counties, there's obviously gonna be more Leinster rugby supporters in Ireland than Louth hurling fans, if you want to compare, you'd have to add up the GAA supporters from all 12 counties. Otherwise theres no question whatsoever. The biggest by a mile is the Irish soccer team. Then Celtic. Up the bhoys!

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1055 - 16/12/2013 16:39:42    1524300

ormond

outside of malahide,clontarf and sutton on the northside of dublin there is no rugby clubs.
also them three areas are all extremly upper class areas so its not a made up thing by the media its fact that rugby still only exists in upper class areas across the northside.
No they dont kids dont play rugby in those areas I named,for starters every public park will have gaa and soccer pitches with no rugby pitches at all.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/12/2013 17:04:19    1524309

TheMaster
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Sorry, if Liverpool and Man utd are discounted because they are not a dublin franchise, then surely leinster rugby must be discounted also? the clue is in the name...

The reality is it doesnt matter where they are from, they all count.

dublin would still be ahead of both liverpool and manchester united though as there are more attend dublins matches then get a boat or plane over to attend them games.
most people who support english soccer clubs are counted because there wife/girlfriend/mother got them a jersey for their birthday.
most of them dont wouldnt go out of their way to watch a match unlike real supporters and id safely say over half of them use it as an excuse to go to the pub on the weekends/week nights.They are not real supporters.
If that was the case then you would count every dublin person who watched the all ireland final a real supporter and didnt attend or watch games all year and we would be even further ahead in the numbers game

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/12/2013 17:10:23    1524313

bubba83
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Huge amount of Leinster support also comes from north county Dublin, Balbriggan, Skerries, Donabate, Malahide, etc. I'm not saying it has overtaken GAA in these areas, however like most counties in Leinster outside of D4, support for the province has increased. Having a successful team on the pitch obviously has played a huge part in that.

the areas you named are mainly fingal not northside of dublin in realism

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/12/2013 17:11:34    1524314

Rosineri1
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most people are referring to Gaelic Football, how does hurling compare to rugby in the capital nowadays?

hurling would be ahead of rugby also to answer your question.
Hurling has increased massively in dublin over the last 3 years support wise.
playing numbers over the last decade have been there biggest leap ever id say,the numbers playing hurling wouldnt be far off football id imagine in clubs.also you only have to go to a public park nd you will see kids out pucking about or parnell park at half time in any match and the pitch swarmed with kids with hurls.
People on here talking about how rugby has grown in the last decade,but as you mention hurling here I would imagine under the radar so to speak hurling has made an even bigger climb in dublin,take the underage success of dublin teams even which was unheard of until last decade and now the senior team winning a league and leinster titles and contesting two all ireland semi finals.
this would be a clear measure of how much the game has grown.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/12/2013 17:19:05    1524318

are you sure liam? a lot of limerick posters always disagree with you on this theme? are you working as a professional in limerick (i.e. with a richer kind of crowd?). Just wondering, because yiz argue about it a lot, and your both in a position to know better than most of us

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1055 - 16/12/2013 17:23:26    1524323

Liamwalkinstown
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Rugby is easily the dominant sport in County Limerick
Half of county Limerick plays football, half play hurling, they rarely co-exist, but the whole county plays soccer and Rugby and the city rugby dominance swings the county as an average towards Rugby and if we are honest, soccer would also be ahead of GAA in Limerick
If you take GAA as a whole and dont break it into Football or Hurling, then you have a closer call, but there is no chance that hurling is individually even close to soccer or rugby in Limerick, neither is football

Limerick is an odd entity though to measure.
rugby would be by a country mile the most popular sport in limerick and theres nobody could doubt limerick is a rugby city but
playing numbers in limerick for the amount of interest in the sport would have to be classed as very low.
you cant go anywhere in limerick city without rugby thrown in your face but yet it doesnt translate into getting them into clubs.
soccer is big in playing numbers but supporting limerick fc is a no no for a city its size and the percieved move to thomond park in a bid to gain support has not worked at all,english soccer as in anywhere in ireland unfortunatly gets huge interest but again like anywhere else in ireland is down to media exposure and actual real supporters would be very few if compared to rugby who do go and attend games.
GAA is a tricky one to judge in the city its got alot of clubs but most would play other sports ahead of gaa if they clashed and interest in the clubs being a top side outside of na piarsaigh in hurling and monaleen in football is very badly run.
In the county gaa would be strong though.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/12/2013 17:33:59    1524328

flack
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Then its silly comparing a whole province to individual counties, there's obviously gonna be more Leinster rugby supporters in Ireland than Louth hurling fans, if you want to compare, you'd have to add up the GAA supporters from all 12 counties. Otherwise theres no question whatsoever. The biggest by a mile is the Irish soccer team. Then Celtic. Up the bhoys!

I wouldnt say Ireland soccer team has the biggest support.since 2000-2013 the dublin footballers would have the largest attendances of any sports team in ireland.its only an odd year that soccer tops the highest ratings in most watched sports,mostly gaa has most tv viewers.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/12/2013 17:36:32    1524331

royaldunne
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With herself been from their (unfortunately) I have a fair idea what it would be, I'd say easily premiership soccer is the biggest then dubs football then rugby then hurling but as individual it would have to be dubs then rugby , also what the hell is this working class middle class crap? I am in management position but I work, so am I middle or working class? Wife runs her own business but would come from a perceived working class area of Dublin. She drives a merc , so is she working class or middle class?
I get tired of hearing this bull. Tbh its mostly those that have a chip on their shoulder that either envy their neighbour or something that it comes from. Utter nonsense. Strive to achieve the best you can be and stop whining about middle or working class.

It appears from what you have written above you simply do not understand the meaning of what constitutes a social class. Its a sociological term and certainly does not relate to anything you have said. It doesn't matter if your wife drives a 'merc', runs her own business, but is from a 'perceived' working class area, nor does it matter if your in management! If you check out CSO stats you will easily see that most people in working class area of Dublin do not own their own company and i very much doubt they drive 'merc's. Societal debates are not about the subjective as you try to imply, they are about trends what is deduced from them.

For what its worth social class, although a contested term, is linked to income, home ownership, personal status and disposable income among many other variables. Some areas of Dublin have people with far greater equity than others and a part of this debate surrounds whether these people have differences in taste in sport etc.

Whether they do or don't, its handy as a starting point to not get the whole definition wrong of what we are debating!

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1663 - 16/12/2013 19:30:22    1524376